wizard_of_gore

Factual error: Although it's a commonly used movie trope, cutting the brake lines on a bus would not produce the effect seen in the movie. Buses use air brakes, which by design, can operate even with substantial loss of pressure and often engage automatically if there is too much pressure loss.

wizard_of_gore

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Suggested correction: I don't know what air brakes you have used but the very nature of air brakes means that low pressure means they can't work. If you have no pressure in them, how are you supposed to press the brakes? I have personally driven hundreds of vehicles with air brakes (I am a truck driver by trade) and can tell you this is a fact. All that happens when air brakes lose pressure is a warning light on the dash and an alarm sounding in the cab, one must manually slow down the vehicle at that point.

I respect the fact that you drive a truck, but my dad has been a master mechanic for more than 50 years and he is the one who pointed this out to me. Depending on the system, there are various fail-safe systems that will engage the brakes during an emergency loss of pressure. Plus, a simple Google search led me to several examples of these systems.

wizard_of_gore

Continuity mistake: Throughout the movie, the number of cars the train has changes. The scene where Hero Girl's ticket is surrounded by a pack of wolves shows the train having around 20 cars, but the scene where the train's on the ice shows it having 5.

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Suggested correction: The entire journey is likely just a dream. There are many things in the movie that cannot happen in the "real" world, and the number of cars changing is just another aspect of the dreamlike nature of the trip.

wizard_of_gore

Star Trek Into Darkness mistake picture

Continuity mistake: When Admiral Marcus' ship appears in front of the Enterprise after coming out of warp, a set of panels begins to close over the main deflector dish. In the next shot, when looking out of the Enterprise's viewscreen, the deflector dish is fully visible again. (01:13:05)

wizard_of_gore

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Suggested correction: This detail was intentional. As a purely military-minded ship, the Vengeance was built with many different defense mechanisms, including the ability to protect its deflector dish by opening and closing a pair of panels. It simply closed them for protection, then opened them again when the deflector dish was needed or the Enterprise was no longer deemed a threat.

Thunderchild24

The problem is that the doors are shown closing, and then in a split second, when seen from the perspective of the Enterprise, they are still open.

wizard_of_gore

Corrected entry: Kirk tells Gillian he can't pay for the meal at the restaurant because they don't use money in the 23rd century. However, in Star Trek III, McCoy tells the captain of the alien ship, "Price you name. Money I got."

Mike Lynch

Correction: They don't use money in the Federation, but that doesn't mean that other alien cultures don't use currency for illegal activities.

wizard_of_gore

Corrected entry: The tape recorder playing the "Do you accept this mission..." does not have its wheels rotating.

Correction: I thought so too, but if you look very closely, they actually are turning.

wizard_of_gore

19th Mar 2023

The Whale (2022)

Corrected entry: Mary may have "fought hard" to gain full custody of Ellie, but - even if Charlie did "leave them" to be with his "lover" - Charlie should have still gotten at least court-ordered regular supervised visits with his daughter over the years, not shut off from maintaining a relationship with his biological daughter.

KeyZOid

Correction: Fathers often get the 'short end of the stick' in custody battles. It is entirely possible that Charlie was denied even supervised visitation. Especially if the judge was extremely conservative.

wizard_of_gore

Especially if the judge was conservative and anti-gay. Plenty of them around.

Charlie was not physically or sexually abusive toward his daughter Ellie (two major reasons to deny any visitation), so I have to disagree.

KeyZOid

I'm not sure how you could disagree. Women are 4X more likely to get primary custody than men, and it's really not unheard of for a parent to get little-to-no custody/visitation even if they weren't abusive to the child. Ex. My father was not abusive towards me, but I only saw him for a few hours every other week because that's just how the arrangement worked out. (Which in retrospect was good because he had other issues and I shouldn't have been around him more than that. But at the time it hurt.)

TedStixon

27th Feb 2023

Top Gun: Maverick (2022)

Corrected entry: When Cruise takes off in the Darkstar plane, he launches at the end of a runway that for some reason has a guard shack on it.

Movie Medic

Correction: How is this a mistake? The guard shack is not "on" the runway. It is along the access road at the gate of the perimeter fence. Maverick goes through that same gate, and past that same guard shack, when he enters the base.

wizard_of_gore

You can look at any airfield (military) there is no guard shack or entrance that close to a runway especially if it's for a secret project like the Aurora.

Movie Medic

25th May 2010

The Wizard of Oz (1939)

Corrected entry: I have to post this to refute the comment that denied the existence of an alternate ending. I was overjoyed to find a comment here from someone else who remembered seeing a different ending just one time in the 1960s. I've spent my whole life trying to find someone else who remembered this. In the 1960s the annual broadcast of the film had hosts. I, and two of my friends, ever since childhood always remembered that one year the movie had a different ending. I've always sensed it was the year that the hosts were Liza Minnelli and Lorna and Joey Luft. We never could remember what the different ending was, but we recalled that it was black and white and that our reaction was: It wasn't just a dream that time. Now that I've read this other person's memory of the camera's panning to the ruby slippers under the bed, in black and white, I remember that's what I saw. Another commenter says that there's no evidence that the scene ever existed. I am here to verify that someone else has never stopped wondering for over 40 years about a vague memory of a different ending from one airing in the 1960s.

moondrift

Correction: https://criticsrant.com/mythbusters-dorothys-ruby-slippers/ This website gives some confirmation, it's one of those myths that get mixed up in people's memories to being convinced they have seen it. The WoZ original footage has been carefully preserved, it's not lost, if this footage made it to the final film for view; somebody would have posted it by now as the footage would still exist somewhere. It's possible you saw a skit or parody though that you mistook for the actual film. That would make sense.

Correction: This is called the "Mandela Effect" (aka 'collective false memory').

It's not a false memory, when I have never forgotten that night, only to find that someone else also remembered it. We may all be connected by our subconscious, but that's going a bit too far. Just because you don't remember it doesn't mean it didn't happen.

moondrift

But the nature of a collective false memory means just because two people remember something happening, doesn't mean it did! :-).

Jon Sandys

It's also possible you saw a parody or a different adaption of WoZ one time and it mixed up in your memory as being a part of the 1939 movie. There is no evidence of this ending ever being in the 1939 version. It's not in the script, there is no surviving imagery of it, and no other record of it whether through cast/crew memories or having been noted as a cut scene. Since we do have records of cut/altered scenes from WoZ, more than likely there would be record of this ending somewhere.

That's the exact definition of The Mandela Effect...multiple people having the same memory of something, even though it never happened. There are people who swear that the line in "Snow White" is "Mirror, mirror on the wall," when in fact it is, "Magic mirror on the wall." Just as there are people who are absolutely convinced that Sinbad was in a movie called "Shazaam."

wizard_of_gore

I also remember this ending and it has driven me crazy over the years! I would stake my life on seeing the slippers under her bed. You are not alone, and I am glad I am not either.

Correction: I do remember seeing a different ending where the camera pans down and slippers are under the bed after Dorothy says, "there's no place like home." I saw it in the 80's at a classmates house, we were watching a rented VHS of the film at her birthday party. I even remember her mother saying she had never seen that part before.

Hi everyone, I would also like to include that I too, in the '60s, saw The Wizard of Oz with the ruby slippers under the bed. I told people for years about this, and no one else could remember the ending. So, I decided since we have the internet today, I would see if anyone else saw this alternative ending and am pleased to see that you have.

Correction: Have you ever watched the 1925 "Wizard of Oz" film? I haven't watched it and I don't know its history of being aired on TV. But it was shot in B&W and perhaps that's the version you watched (I'm not claiming it is or isn't though).

Bishop73

I'd say it can't be, if you peek at it (it's available on Youtube), the ending is completely different and wouldn't fit. Fascinating discussion, anyway! To the original poster; nobody means to disparage your memory, in fact we're trying to come up with possible explanations; it's pretty certain though that it can't be an official alternate ending, because we're talking about one of the most iconic and analyzed movies ever. Now it's all about figuring out what sort of clip did they play during that TV broadcast you seem to remember. And there's a gigantic wikipedia page just about the telecast alone. Perhaps it was a wraparound credits sequence?

Sammo

It's not a pseudo memory at all. I remembered the same thing from the late sixties and have tried to find out for decades why it was just the one year as well and I saw it and remembered it before I ever saw others were trying to find out about it. Very strange but I have to agree that there should be a lot more people that remember it. I'm watching the movie again now and the memory came back again. When I searched I just now saw that others DO remember that different ending.

Thank you. I appreciate your saying that you're not trying to disparage my memory, but that is exactly what the responders are doing. Instead of trying to come up with explanations, maybe people should accept that they cannot prove a negative, and that just because they don't recall it and can't find a record doesn't mean I'm wrong. I don't want to keep repeating myself, I know what I saw, and my best friend (whom I did not meet until several years after) remembers it too.

moondrift

No. I've never seen it.

moondrift

Continuity mistake: It's established in TNG that Geordi's VISOR can see the entire EM spectrum, which several episodes showed to be a chaotic, indecipherable, visual frenzy that Geordi admitted he had to train himself to be able to comprehend. In 'Generations', however, the hijacked feed from Geordi's VISOR is shown as perfectly normal vision that looks like what you'd see from any standard camera.

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Suggested correction: Exactly, because that's what Soran did when he modified it. He adapted the VISOR so that it would transmit what Geordi was seeing in the visual spectrum without making him aware that the VISOR had been modified.

wizard_of_gore

27th Aug 2022

The Black Phone (2021)

Character mistake: In the very beginning at the baseball game the runner is running to second base and the fielder doesn't even try to tag him out. Just runs right by him and gets the ball to the pitcher. (00:00:53)

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Suggested correction: The center fielder missed the ball and the right fielder got it. The second baseman was at the border of the infield and outfield and the right fielder may not have noticed that the short stop moved to cover second base. By this time, the players might have been more concerned over the opposing team scoring a run because a player had advanced to third base. It was a "revealing" mistake or overall "stupidity" by the team as each player was playing "musical positions" more so than good baseball.

KeyZOid

With regard to "revealing", the players may have been instructed to be active on the field and cover bases for each other as needed and this was the "mess" they produced.

KeyZOid

Suggested correction: Baseball players make mental errors all the time, even major leaguers.

wizard_of_gore

I've watched the scene a few times and can't agree or disagree with the mistake, but it certainly doesn't look like a mental error one would see in a game, even a little league game. It just looked like two kids were given directions what to do and the timing might have been off and the director on set didn't bother changing it. (I'm not disagreeing or agreeing with the correction either, just making a statement to help others decide).

Bishop73

20th May 2022

Dune (2021)

Corrected entry: It is questionable if there can be "sandstorms powerful enough to cut through metal." The year may be 10191 and "Arrakis" unknown to contemporary society, but the sandstorms would have to be at least comparable to the capabilities of modern day SAND BLASTERS that might do that type of damage operating at 1,000 MPH. IF the sand storms were that powerful, the people probably could not survive them. (00:05:50)

KeyZOid

Correction: It's just hyperbole, like when someone says, "The sleet was cutting like daggers." It's meant to emphasize how powerful and dangerous the sandstorms are, not that the sand could literally cut metal.

wizard_of_gore

That's not the impression I got. There would be too much of a gap between cutting skin/flesh from bones (already not very likely) to cutting through metal. Such an exaggeration would not be necessary.

KeyZOid

Even if not hyperbole, it might be that the sandstorms can cut through/wear down metal over time, possibly quite a short time, making it a technically accurate statement. They don't say they can cut through metal instantly or like a knife through butter.

14th Feb 2022

Wonder Woman (2017)

Plot hole: How is it possible that Diana is unaware of the concept of marriage? She has a grasp of multiple languages and cultures and can recite Socrates. Socrates often spoke of marriage, so even if her people do not marry, it makes no sense that she is completely unfamiliar with this human custom.

wizard_of_gore

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Suggested correction: She has never seen a man either. She read about them, but never actually saw one. One might question why she doesn't understand a man if she read about them, and yet she doesn't. Same thing with marriage.

lionhead

She had never seen a man, but she knew that they existed. She speaks multiple languages, despite never having met someone from any of those cultures. My point is, if she's so well versed in world cultures, how has she never heard of the concept of marriage?

wizard_of_gore

Corrected entry: Nothing in space could communicate with whales in the ocean without radios. It wouldn't matter if it was generating the loudest sound in the universe, or had the most sensitive mike and most powerful amplifier - sound can't travel through a vacuum. The probe couldn't "hear" the whales, and the whales couldn't hear the probe.

ReRyRo

Correction: This assumes that the probe, which does not appear to be a 'mechanical' device, uses a communications technology that we are familiar with, and there's no reason to assume that it does. It's a fictional, alien probe, which is likely using a fictional, alien technology to communicate with the whales.

wizard_of_gore

You're describing fantasy fiction and not science fiction. The whales are not equipped with alien technology to send and receive, so it doesn't matter what technology the probe contains The movie makes a point of "playing" the sounds of whales and the sounds of the probe. Sounds, by definition, are vibrations of a medium - there is no medium here to carry the vibrations, and even if there were, they would have to be so powerful as to cause worldwide, catastrophic shock waves in order to reach.

ReRyRo

Star Trek does often dabble in fantasy under the guise of "too advanced for our puny minds." The probe's signal is not itself a sound but some kind of energy (or something) that can inexplicably drain power from starships, cause giant hurricanes, and produce a sound when it hits a medium. The probe presumably has sensors that can detect the effects of a whale call and extrapolate/ "hear" it much the way the Enterprise bridge screen can "see" across vast distances using sensor data.

TonyPH

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Suggested correction: Not true.

This isn't a valid correction. Anyone can say "Not true" to any submission if they want to. You need to have actual data to back up your claim.

Phaneron

Agreed, but by the same token, anyone can post anything as trivia. How do we know the original post is true? The OP offers no source.

wizard_of_gore

You're not wrong, but Jon is the gatekeeper on what gets approved as trivia, so that much is out of our hands.

Phaneron

This entry doesn't look nor sound credible.

That may be so, but since the webmaster approved it, anyone who wishes to correct it needs to have information proving it to be wrong.

Phaneron

It's always a bit case by case - the member who submitted it is generally reliable, not prone to making stuff up, etc. But I'm open to corrections!

Jon Sandys

19th Jul 2021

The Tomorrow War (2021)

Corrected entry: The aircraft launched to destroy the city of Miami are F-22 air superiority fighters, which are entirely incapable of saturation or carpet bombing. Even the way they carry out the operation in the movie demonstrates this. They blow up a few streets and that's it. What was the point?

wizard_of_gore

Correction: The air strike was not launched to destroy the city, just the research facility and the area around it. The F-22s would be WAY old by the time of this attack and it's perfectly reasonable to assume from this that the military was using anything it had left in its last stand battle to kill the creatures.

It's stated in the film that the city had been lost/overrun and would be destroyed, ostensibly to destroy as many white spikes as possible.

wizard_of_gore

9th Oct 2019

Despicable Me 2 (2013)

Other mistake: When Agnes screams after the evil minion tries to eat her unicorn, the noise shatters glass items and a sculpture on the mantelpiece as well as the evil minion's goggles. But Margo's glasses do not appear shattered at all.

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Suggested correction: Glass shatters due to a loud sound because of a phenomenon called sonic resonance. If the glasses' natural vibration frequency doesn't match the frequency of the scream, they won't shatter.

Suggested correction: Her lenses could very well be made of plastic, which would not shatter like glass.

wizard_of_gore

Suggested correction: Maybe Margo's glasses are made of hard plastic, not glass.

dizzyd

4th Apr 2021

Event Horizon (1997)

Corrected entry: The entire story line around the CO2 scrubber canisters is kind of ridiculous. The Event Horizon was massive, with a crew that only inhabited it a relatively short time (since they all died in short order after attempting the jump), meaning most of its CO2 canisters would still be good. It would have had large reserves of good canisters. Plus, the ships are equipped with stasis pods, meaning they wouldn't need CO2 scrubbers for 99% of the trip anyway.

Correction: The ship also travelled to another dimension. There's no way to know what effect that had on the ship's systems, not to mention the fact that whatever entity is inhabiting the ship is manipulating the environment.

wizard_of_gore

27th Feb 2021

Batman (1989)

Continuity mistake: The clown balloon was swelling with the Smilex gas, but when Batman steals it and flies it and the other balloons away, it's back to normal shape.

Movie Nut

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Suggested correction: The balloons were not filled with Smilex gas. The Smilex was in canisters that are visible underneath the balloons. The balloons themselves could have expended and contracted due to varying air pressure.

wizard_of_gore

Yes the canisters were on the underside. But if you look closely, when activated, the balloon began to swell, and holes appeared, releasing the gas.

Movie Nut

Identity Crisis - S4-E18

Stupidity: When Riker and Worf are searching for Geordi on the holodeck, why don't they just terminate the program, instead of looking for him in the simulated jungle? Would have made it a heck of a lot easier to find him in the relatively small empty holodeck, invisible or not.

wizard_of_gore

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Suggested correction: Geordi had already mutated and since one of the abilities of the mutation is invisibility, shutting off the holodeck wouldn't have helped as, without being able to see Geordi, it would be impossible to know where or if he was still in the holodeck.

The original stupidity still holds though. As the original poster said, it would be easier to find Geordi in the smaller holodeck, without the simulated jungle, "invisible or not."

wizard_of_gore

No, it wouldn't. Before going to the holodeck, the computer was asked where Geordi was with the response he was no longer on board. This would indicate that any type of scanner would not be able to find him. Plus, how would shutting off the holodeck help? Geordi was now invisible, being invisible would have no shadow and shortly after Worf and Riker had even got to the holodeck, a partially mutated Geordi had already got to the transporter room and beamed himself down to the planet.

I have to agree. How would shutting down the holodeck be useful in finding Geordi since he was now invisible and the scanners on the Enterprise couldn't detect him?

Because of how the Holodeck works, turning off the program would leave him in a small room and standing on the floor, so they could at least try to physically sweep the room. Leaving the program running, he's still invisible, but now a physical sweep would be nearly impossible since he could be in trees above them or hiding below them and not on the same ground level.

Bishop73

16th Mar 2006

Apollo 13 (1995)

Factual error: On several occasions the astronauts address the Capcom as "Andy." None of the Apollo 13 Capcoms were named Andy. Their names were Jack Lousma, Joe Kerwin, John Young and Vance Brand.

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Suggested correction: While that is technically correct, many characters were condensed or changed to suit the movie. It's not a documentary, after all, it's a movie based on true events.

stiiggy

No, it's not a documentary, but all of the other characters have their "real life" names. Why change this one?

wizard_of_gore

"Andy" was used to avoid viewer confusion between Jack Swigert and CAPCOM Jack Lousma.

They changed and condensed many items in the movie. "I vunder where Gunther Vent" quote was from Apollo 7, not 13. The EECOM John Aaron was given another name, and the "steely eyed missile man" quote was from Apollo 12. Marilyn Lovell didn't lose her wedding ring in the shower, she found it.

stiiggy

No, they used John Aaron's real first name, which did clash with John Young (played by Ben Marley) when they were in the simulator scene together.

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