The Wizard of Oz

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Corrected entry: I have to post this to refute the comment that denied the existence of an alternate ending. I was overjoyed to find a comment here from someone else who remembered seeing a different ending just one time in the 1960s. I've spent my whole life trying to find someone else who remembered this. In the 1960s the annual broadcast of the film had hosts. I, and two of my friends, ever since childhood always remembered that one year the movie had a different ending. I've always sensed it was the year that the hosts were Liza Minnelli and Lorna and Joey Luft. We never could remember what the different ending was, but we recalled that it was black and white and that our reaction was: It wasn't just a dream that time. Now that I've read this other person's memory of the camera's panning to the ruby slippers under the bed, in black and white, I remember that's what I saw. Another commenter says that there's no evidence that the scene ever existed. I am here to verify that someone else has never stopped wondering for over 40 years about a vague memory of a different ending from one airing in the 1960s.

moondrift

Correction: This is called the "Mandela Effect" (aka 'collective false memory').

It's not a false memory, when I have never forgotten that night, only to find that someone else also remembered it. We may all be connected by our subconscious, but that's going a bit too far. Just because you don't remember it doesn't mean it didn't happen.

moondrift

But the nature of a collective false memory means just because two people remember something happening, doesn't mean it did! :-).

Jon Sandys Premium member

Corrected entry: The TIN man is made of TIN. If he was made of some other metal he would be called the Iron Man or the Titanium Man or the Aluminum Man. Because he is made of TIN he will not RUST! Rust is Iron Oxide. In addition, Tin will not form oxides at normal atmospheric temperatures and pressure. If he cannot rust, then the scenes with him rusted/rusting and the oil can are totally unnecessary and factually wrong.

Correction: In its day 'tins' that contained food were in fact iron (or mild steel) coated with a thin layer of tin to stop corrosion. The tin coating would wear away with time and the iron (or mild steel) underneath would rust. This makes a rusting Tin Man completely correct.

Corrected entry: After Dorothy pulls the Tin Man's arm down we see her throw the apple that she's holding down behind him. In the next shot it reappears in her left hand.

00:41:55

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Correction: No she didn't throw that apple down. Look again, she put it in her other hand and picked up the can.

Correction: First scene with the Tin Man, Dorothy switches the apple from her left hand to the right. A litter later when she says, "Goodness," Dorothy throws the apple to the ground. After Tin Man explains how he rusted, the apple is again in her left hand.

11291929

This is incorrect. At the beginning of the scene, she has an apple in each hand. She drops the apple in her left hand, then switches the remaining apple from her right hand to her left hand when she finds the oil can. The apple remains in her left hand for the remainder of the scene. You can watch the scene here: https://youtu.be/louBM-Mix7s.

Jason Hoffman

Corrected entry: Picky point, but hey, that's what this site is about. When the Wicked Witch is dying, you hear her screaming "I'm melting, I'm melting". She really isn't melting. She is changing from the solid state to the gaseous state, which is sublimation. Therefore, she is sublimating. Melting is changing from the solid state to the liquid state.

Correction: This is not true. The hat used on the witch in this scene was actually larger to give the appearance that her head was getting smaller to convey "melting." The Winkies were also told to keep their weapons lower to help her appear smaller. If the Witch was sublimating, they would have had to make it appear as if she vanished into a gas in mid-air, as opposed to melting, which is still somewhat solid and pulled down by gravity. However, once melted, she does indeed evaporate into a gas. Summary: first she melts, then she evaporates, she does not sublimate.

violets69

Corrected entry: When the group is in the Land of Oz and are getting out of the carriage to go to the "refresh room", the Tin Man's tights can be seen crinkling as he steps down from the carriage, showing that he is not "tin", or at least not completely.

Correction: All of his joints "crinkle." Not to mention that his face is obviously not solid tin. Nothing ever says he's "completely" made of tin, there's no reason why parts of his body can't be made of another substance.

White Lock

Corrected entry: "The Wizard Of Oz" is apparently set at or about 1900. The wide rubber tire tied to a tree limb as a swing and seen several times early in the film is of much more modern vintage.

martylee13045

Correction: I believe this is not an accurate assessment regarding the time-setting, as Toto jumps into the seat of a tractor during "Over the Rainbow," also the fashions of 1900 America would never allow Dorothy Gale (or any female) to show their ankles; however it would make sense for Miss Gulch's fashion sense to be 20-30 years behind the times. Also note that Miss Gulch's bicycle is not turn-of-the-century; the Wizard states, when he was "acclaimed Oz, the first Wizard de Luxe," that, "times being what they were, I took the job," an explicit reference to the Depression, which was of course occurring at the time. Just a few observations. :).

Corrected entry: The Director - Victor Fleming, was working on "Gone with the Wind" at the same time.

Correction: Not true. He moved on to Gone with the Wind when most of Oz was finished. King Vidor came in and finished the Kansas scenes.

Corrected entry: Even though he left production due to serious health problems, Buddy Ebsen actually does appear twice in movie in two different roles. First time he appears as Scarecrow (role for which he was originally cast) in first scenes with Dorothy. He is shown couple of times from behind. Second time he appears when Scarecrow, Tin Man and Lion come to Witch's castle to rescue Dorothy. He plays Tin Man in all shots which shows three heroes from behind, including shot of them marching into castle.

mirtom

Correction: Not true. Ebsen was recast as the Tin Man before any footage was shot. And all of his scenes as the Tin Man were reshot after his departure. The hair, costumes, and makeup were all different from his time on the film so there would have been dramatic mis-matches.

dodgersfan7800

Corrected entry: When the Wicked Witch of the West is writing the message in the sky for Dorothy, she begins with one letter. Two shots later, the entire message is written, without enough time for her to have written it all.

hlj67

Correction: They do this all the time in movies. There's no reason to make the audience sit through the Witch writing the entire message, so if they show a beginning and an end, the audience knows the message had been written.

Corrected entry: Regarding the Tin Man: tin doesn't rust.

Correction: "The Tin Man" is merely a name Dorothy gives him when she sees he's silver. What he's actually made of is never stated.

White Lock

Corrected entry: When the scarecrow is singing, "If I Only had a Brain", as he dances around the flowers on the fence seem to disappear and then appear again.

Correction: The flowers don't disappear, they're still there. The shot that you're talking about just shows the edge of the fence, which is not covered with the flowers.

Corrected entry: The bows in Dorothy's hair are tied differently throughout the scene with Glinda the witch.

00:19:40 - 00:21:30

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Correction: Too vague. Dorothy has a few scenes with Glinda.

Corrected entry: Before Dorothy walks on the pig sty, Uncle Henry can be seen on the far right side of the screen. He stops, stands there for about 10 seconds and then walks to the right. In the next shot he's gone.

00:03:45

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Correction: In this scene the camera never swings back far enough to see him again.

Corrected entry: When Dorothy is knocked unconscious there is a brown pillowcase on her bed. Several shots later when she wakes up it's white.

00:17:05

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Correction: The reason why it changed from brown to white is because it went from sepia toned to color. The original scene was shot in black and white, so it was originally white, but the people who re-mastered it thought that the sepia tone would look better. The pillowcase was always white: it was just the way that it was remastered in sepia that made it look brown.

Corrected entry: In the poppy field the tin man says "this is terrible" but his lips don't match up with what he's saying.

00:55:55

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Correction: It's the Scarecrow that says, "This is terrible", not Tin Man.

Corrected entry: In the beginning, after the Wicked Witch talks to Glinda and Dorothy, she goes to disappear into the trap door. You can see she doesn't remember where the trap door is and has to go around in a circle to get to it.

00:30:45

Correction: It does not appear that she is unable to find the trap door; she makes the circle to sweep her skirt around her for dramatic effect before she disappears.

BocaDavie Premium member

Corrected entry: Before Dorothy goes home, she says a long and tearful goodbye to the Scarecrow, Tin Man, and Lion. But originally she was going to fly off in a balloon with the Wizard, and just happened to jump out of the basket at the last second. Wouldn't she have already said her goodbyes before that? (Not that she wouldn't have said goodbye again, but the second time would have sounded a little different.)

Krista

Correction: This is a question, not a mistake. She was obviously going to say her goodbyes from inside the basket before taking off. When the balloon left without her she said her goodbyes on the ground instead.

BocaDavie Premium member

Corrected entry: Studio lights are seen reflected in Dorothy's bedroom window as it rips off due to the twister.

00:16:20

Hamster Premium member

Correction: I have watched this scene several times, and there are no studio lights reflected.

Corrected entry: During one of the times the cast sings "We're off to see the Wizard" (either after they meet the Tin Man or the Cowardly Lion), as they begin to walk off, above the main characters there is visible the sillhouette of a crew member swinging an arm projected onto the backdrop from behind it.

Correction: No, this is part of the infamous "hanging munchkin" scene. That is not the arm of a stagehand, it is one of the free-roaming birds extending it's wing. You can see it for yourself at the link given at the top of the main page for The Wizard of Oz.

Guy

Corrected entry: Hunk takes off his left glove after he hits it with the hammer. In the next shot it's back on again.

00:03:45

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Correction: Hunk was not seen in the very next shot or the next shot after that. He had plenty of time to put it back on.

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Dorothy: How can you talk if you haven't got a brain?
Scarecrow: I don't know. But some people without brains do an awful lot of talking, don't they?

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In the beginning while Dorothy is still on the farm, she walks along the pig pen fence and then falls in. When Bert Lahr picks her up out of there her dress is perfectly clean.

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Trivia

Professor Marvel, the Cabbie, the doorman, the guard, and the wizard himself are all the same actor, Frank Morgan.

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