lionhead

Plot hole: In the opening scene, Wade applies to be an Avenger, and does it in the Sacred Timeline, the main MCU timeline, on Earth-616. Not his own, which the movie classifies in the next scene as Earth-10005. Assuming he can just do that (at the end of his second movie he certainly did stranger things than that with Cable's device), one fails to see the purpose of it. Let's assume he aced the interview and got hired; it's not his timeline. He does it to have a good relationship with his girlfriend. Who...is in a different universe. Whatever Wade does in the vastly different universe is not altering anything in his own. It was never going to work.

Sammo

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Suggested correction: He goes back to his universe. Think Thor...or the Guardians or Captain Marvel or whomever isn't Earth based. They "Assemble" then go back to protecting their little corner of the Marvel Universe.

DetectiveGadget85

Suggested correction: But it's Deadpool. When does anything he ever does make sense? He wanted to be an Avenger, he went out to be one, no matter what that meant in the literal sense. As long as he can say it, it's enough for him. Even if it is in a different universe/timeline, he can still say he's an Avenger. He is also a rule breaker, so maybe he can figure out how to make it work.

lionhead

I knew this was going to be the objection to it; it's Deadpool, he can do whatever, etc. There are multiple times during the movie when he mentions things that he is not supposed to know because they are meant to be fourth-wall-breaking jokes. He references real-life actors, he interacted with them in previous movies. So they are absurdities with a purpose, and it's pointless to argue with comedy. But him being rejected by the Avengers is part of his motivations and of the 'serious' part of the plot, which is focused on his own universe and his girlfriend. Earth-616's Avengers though? The namedropping for nerds is an absurd choice when you think about it, which the movie does not want you to do, since it makes zero jokes about it. Without that caption it was not even going to raise any objection or paradox; he could have met with the Avengers of his universe, any universe - later in the movie Wolverine says "F*** the Avengers" as if he knows them.

Sammo

Two things: 1. Even if he is able to join the Avengers on Earth-616, being part of a team might give him a sense of belonging and change his whole attitude. It wasn't to impress Vanessa about being an Avenger, it was to change his attitude which had soured after the events of the second movie. 2. It cleverly explains that the Marvel characters from the Fox universe were in their own universe and, to this point, have likely not been a part of the MCU.

Maybe his universe doesn't have Avengers and he found out about them through the MCU. That's what I'm saying. It's just a gimmick in the movie and actually doesn't affect the plot that much as he was given a task by the TVA (or whatever lone wolf from the TVA) and teams up with Wolverine. Him trying to be an Avenger and talking about it is just a running gag.

lionhead

Factual error: Although Dieter Hellstrom is a Gestapo Major, he has the SS runes on his uniform instead of a blank square.

Big Game

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Suggested correction: Nowhere in the movie is he said to be a Gestapo Major. He is SS. Even if he was part of the Gestapo, he could still be an SS officer, as the Gestapo fell under the SS and RSHA.

lionhead

Actually, Hellstrom himself says, "I didn't introduce myself. Major Dieter Hellstrom of the Gestapo," after Shoshanna meets Joseph Goebbels in the bar.

Big Game

Oh right, he was in another scene too. Sure, well, like I said, he can still be an SS officer.

lionhead

Other mistake: The Angel of Death attacks the altar and Toht and Dietrich scream because of its revelation, but Belloq, for some reason, doesn't seem to see it. Just before the fire column rises, he's still calm. (01:47:10)

Big Game

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Suggested correction: If you don't know the reason, perhaps you should ask a question instead of assuming it is a mistake. Belloq studied the ark and probably better predicted what might come out of the ark. He is also looking directly into the ark and is mesmerized by what he is seeing, until eventually he does scream before his head explodes. The other two are terrified at seeing the apparitions.

lionhead

Actually, it's pretty impossible that Belloq studied the Ark. If he knew what would come out of it, he literally committed suicide by opening and watching the Ark open, which doesn't make sense. He believed during the whole movie that the Ark contained the Ten Commandments tablets, not some kind of ghastly things.

Big Game

He didn't know what would come out, but it doesn't mean that he, like Indy, expected just 2 stone tablets. He expected power, for him mostly.

lionhead

Corrected entry: In the tank scene, a German fires a bullet which hits the tank driver and he falls on to the controls, turning the tank. As almost everyone in the tank is dead/unconscious nobody would move the body so the tank should go round in circles.

Correction: Henry Jones Sr and Marcus Brody were in the tank when this happened and they weren't killed nor knocked out. It is likely that they moved the body.

Senior and Marcus are consistently depicted as totally useless in practical situations. They get out and there's no indication that they contributed anything like that off camera. The original mistake should stand?

Spiny Norman

Yes. They had no reason to move the body.

The body could just as easily have slid off.

lionhead

Yeah, in THIS case I can see that happening. I've never driven a WWII tank, but car steering rights itself. (Although I still think that some of the other rebuttals for this movie's mistakes are way beyond generous.)

Spiny Norman

Well, at least Senior has his moments - he chases up the birds to defeat the plane, distracts a soldier by squirting ink in his face, shoots others with the tank's side gun and knocks out a soldier with a shell, so he may well have tried to get control of the tank.

Even so, there still is no indication that anything like that happens. I shouldn't repeat myself, but personally, I think there are far too many excuses made for this movie. (Potential explanations that aren't strictly speaking impossible, but that don't have any evidence beyond hypothesis either.)

Spiny Norman

19th May 2024

The Mummy Returns (2001)

Factual error: At the conclusion of the fight between Nefertiti and Anck-Su-Namun, the Pharaoh congratulates his wife with "Bravo." However, bravo is a French word. He would've said well done in Egyptian, not in another language, much less a culture that didn't exist at that time. The subtitled translation would have to be altered as well.

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Suggested correction: He says "Beyu" or something like that, actually meaning "wonderful" according to the script. He doesn't say "Bravo" in any case.

lionhead

7th Jan 2022

World War Z (2013)

Factual error: When flying from Korea to Israel, a nuclear explosion happens in the distance, the plane is hit by a shockwave, and then the phones go dead. The EMP from the nuke would have taken out all electronics first, not last. And they certainly wouldn't work again, especially a sat phone designed to receive radio waves. It would have probably also taken down the plane.

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Suggested correction: There's no evidence this was a nuclear explosion. The mushroom cloud effect is most commonly associated with a nuclear explosion, but any sufficiently energetic detonation or deflagration will produce the same effect.

Except in this case, the explosion shown is a copy of a real nuclear detonation (Operation Crossroads, underwater), so it's obviously meant to be a nuclear explosion.

lionhead

Revealing mistake: When Luke is being fed to the Rancor, in Jabba the Hutt's dungeon, there are black outlines around the beast's legs, from the composite's blue screen special effect. This was edited out in the special edition rerelease.

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Suggested correction: This was not a "mistake". The outlines showing around the beast's leg were due to the limited CGI technology at the time the film was made. With advances in special effects in the following decades, the filmmakers were able to enhance the CGI quality in later releases.

raywest

But it is a mistake to show that the Rancor is not real, and the outlines show that. It's certainly not intentional.

lionhead

Not sure what you mean that the rancor is not real. Of course it's not real. The issue is, at that time, it was not technically possible to show the beastie without the lines showing. I classify a mistake as something that was not intentional. In this case, it was, due to the limitations of CGI in the 1980s.

raywest

18th Apr 2024

Fallout (2024)

Show generally

Continuity mistake: This show has been widely declared as canonical with the games, by the makers of both this show and the games. The game Fallout 4 establishes the date and time that the bombs drop: Saturday, October 23, 2077, 9:47 AM East Coast Time. Which means it was 6:47 AM West Coast Time. That's a pretty weird time of day to schedule a kids' party with lots of guests and a hired celebrity cowboy.

Captain Defenestrator

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Suggested correction: They changed a lot of subtle things from canon for the show. Also, all games have got some inconsistencies between them as well. In the show, on the TV, there is a clock that says it's around 9:30 AM the first time we see it and 10:45 when they cut the cake, so it's close to the afternoon and not very early in the morning. The position of the sun confirms this.

lionhead

So, if it's 10:45 West Coast time, that makes it 1:45 PM East Coast time. Would you carry on a birthday party if the other side of the country got nuked four hours ago?

Captain Defenestrator

The show is not taking place on the East Coast; it's on the West Coast in California. The show made it so it was 10:45 AM on the West Coast when the attack began. The attack happened all over the US simultaneously. This is not a mistake but done intentionally. You can call it a deliberate mistake. Definitely nothing wrong in the continuity of the show.

lionhead

6th Mar 2020

Doctor Sleep (2019)

Other mistake: It seems strange that Rose the Hat doesn't sense the evil that inhabits the Overlook Hotel when she arrives. When the blood river flows in that hallway, Rose just grins at it, unaware of the danger she is in. As powerful as Rose is, she never sensed Danny's Shining ability back in 1980 even before the events at the Overlook Hotel.

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Suggested correction: The ghosts of the Overlook Hotel are still locked up in Danny's mind. There is no danger yet. What she sees are just memories from Danny overflowing into her mind. Abra experiences the same thing. Rose herself wonders how she overlooked (pun intended) Danny, but that is never explained.

lionhead

Corrected entry: It makes absolutely no sense why the Terminator, who is a programmed killer, chooses not to kill anyone in this film. In Terminator 2, he didn't kill because John, who was his master, ordered him not to. In this film, we learn that John is not his master. Kate Brewster is. And she spends most of her time complaining and trying to escape from John and the Terminator. She certainly wasn't gonna bother giving the Terminator a pep talk on no killing. So it just remains a plot hole.

Gavin Jackson

Correction: Kate Brewster told the Terminator not to kill when she reprogrammed him in the future. It's a logical order to give since its mission is to protect. It's likely John gave her that idea in the future when telling her about the terminator from T-2 (before he died of course) who he gave the same order to.

lionhead

I agree, but it is also possible that Kate programmed him not to kill anyone.

That's what I said.

lionhead

21st Mar 2024

Gremlins (1984)

Corrected entry: Gremlins die when they see bright light. When they start taking over the town, street lanterns don't seem to bother them until the end of the movie, where they suddenly hide in a cinema "because it's too bright outside." Inside the bar, lots of Gremlins got killed by the flash of a camera, and one Gremlin even died from the light of a simple match, although Gizmo survived a similar camera flash in the beginning of the movie without a problem.

Correction: Only sunlight kills them, not bright lights. They can't stand bright lights and cower away from it, but they don't die.

lionhead

4th Sep 2002

Demolition Man (1993)

Plot hole: When Spartan jumps through the window in the excavation scene of the museum, he crashes into a room with bottles of drink on the shelves. Surely this room too would have been filled in and the window smashed during the earthquake, and the museum wouldn't have bothered to excavate it as it can't be seen from above due to the blanked out window. So what is that room doing there? (00:49:20)

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Suggested correction: It is not an excavation. It is only made to appear like an excavation for the museum; it is all decor to display the 20th century items like the car.

lionhead

2nd Mar 2024

The Revenant (2015)

Corrected entry: When Glass encounters the wolf kill and the Indian, they eat the raw meat. But it's insane to eat raw meat from an animal that's just been killed, when it's so loaded with deadly bacteria and tastes disgusting, especially when they know how to make a fire so quickly - also especially as Glass is weak with injuries, so his immune system is compromised. Indeed, the Indian who shoos off the wolves has fires going at the time they eat.

Correction: Fresh, raw meat has little bacterial count; it won't spoil for hours under those cold conditions. Beef is quite safe to eat raw and cold, as long as it's fresh. If the meat is spoiled, cooking it won't make a difference.

lionhead

2nd Mar 2024

Fargo (2014)

The Tender Trap - S5-E6

Character mistake: Deputy Olmstead says to Lorraine Lyon, "You think that you're rich 'cause you're better than me." Surely, the line should have been "You think that you're better than me 'cause you're rich."

Leicaman

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Suggested correction: No, she actually does mean Lorraine thinks she is rich because she is better than her. And to her, anyone who is not rich is therefore less, or else they would be rich too. It's the same type of thinking but with a different approach as what you suggest. It's about privilege.

lionhead

Interesting. I can see it either way. Thanks for the thought.

Leicaman

Plot hole: The movie is based in 1986 after the group time travels from 2010. That makes it a 24 year trip back in time. It is stated that Jacob is 20 years old. That is an error as this would make him roughly around 23 or 24 if he was conceived in 1986, which we saw near the end of the movie.

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Suggested correction: This mistake has already been corrected. Cusack could have simply generalized his age when he mentioned it, probably not remembering his real age at the moment.

lionhead

Corrected entry: After being transported to the 1980s, the guys have possession of things which they did not take into the hot tub with them. Nick has his cell phone, Jacob has his snowboard, Lou has his backpack, and they are all wearing clothing that they brought with them when they go skiing.

ThatOneGuy

Correction: This isn't a mistake, it's a plot point. They need the Russian energy drink to get back to the present.

Captain Defenestrator

I feel this is more of an excuse than a correction.

lionhead

Factual error: When Phil is carving the ice sculpture, he slips and the chainsaw flies into the air, and it continues to run. Chainsaws will only run while you hold down the trigger.

jlabs23

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Suggested correction: Easily rigged to be able to have the trigger held down without pushing on it.

lionhead

11th Nov 2023

What If...? (2021)

What If... Captain Carter Were the First Avenger? - S1-E1

Factual error: When Stark starts telling about the Tesseract, the colonel shows surprise that Nazis were in Norway. Peggy answers with "Close. HYDRA." The scene is set in 1943, and Norway had been occupied by Nazi Germany for three years already. Them being in Tønsberg should not come as a great surprise to an Allied commander. (00:07:10)

Twotall

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Suggested correction: I feel like this falls under the "Not a mistake because it's an alternate universe" umbrella. We're in an entirely different universe with a different timeline in this episode.

TedStixon

The show also makes a point that the only difference should be the minor choices or events befalling the MCU characters, and how these minor things have huge consequences for them, basically creating a new alternate timeline. Basic world history before these events is not affected by the new timeline.

Twotall

Basic, unaltered world history does not apply with this because we are talking about an alternate WWII from the beginning. One with Schmitt/Red Skull as propaganda minister of Hitler, Hydra superseding the SS, super soldier serum, Stark tech, the Tesseract, etc. It is not WWII as we know it, even without the "what if."

lionhead

26th Jan 2024

Armageddon (1998)

Other mistake: If the meteor shower that hits NYC is the same one that destroyed the shuttle, how was so much time able to pass that all the newspapers were able to report on the shuttle before NYC got hit?

jbrbbt

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Suggested correction: Good question. Nobody says that it's the "same" shower though. All of them come from the bigger rock, and they are coming in intervals. So it could very well be some time had passed between showers. Also, the meteorites that hit the shuttle were much smaller and probably burned up in the atmosphere before bigger ones followed.

lionhead

25th Jun 2002

Independence Day (1996)

Corrected entry: When the alien is brought into the containment lab of Area 51, we see all sorts of high-tech monitors set up and doctors running around checking everything works and everything is prepped and ready for the alien. So why is it, after all this work, they forget to administer some form of anaesthetic to the alien knowing that not only is it merely unconscious from a punch to the head but it has a nasty temperament towards mankind?

Correction: Maybe they gave it the anaesthetic, and it didn't work.

Making up Deus ex Machina corrections for mistakes does not invalidate them. The technicians and scientists made no effort to restrain a potentially hostile and dangerous alien, and that belongs under "Stupidity."

There is nothing "deus ex machina" about the correction. The entry asks why they didn't use an anaesthetic, and the correction addresses that issue. There is no talk about restraints, which is a different issue (can restrain the suit but what about the alien within?).

lionhead