Corrected entry: The Wasp showing up at the end battle makes no sense. She didn't even know what was going on when they disappeared and came back, and Dr. Strange didn't know where or even who she was, so nobody would think about bringing her there. It's also too paradoxical for Dr. Strange to know she was needed there because he saw the future, simply because there was only 1 chance.
lionhead
12th May 2019
Avengers: Endgame (2019)
2nd May 2018
Black Panther (2018)
Corrected entry: At the start in 1984 King T'Chaka visits his brother N'Jobu in the US. As he enters the apartment he asks who the other guy is and tells him to leave but N'Jobu says he can be trusted. However, T'Chaka both already knew it was his spy Zuri and that N'Jobu had betrayed Wakanda so there was no reason for the act of telling him to leave as he was supposed to be in the room to reveal his identity to N'Jubo. He could have just ignored him instead. Zuri also could have just let the Dora Milaje in himself and dropped the act immediately.
Correction: Firstly, the scene takes place in 1992, not 1984. Secondly, whatever decision King T'Chaka and Zuri made to confront N'Jobu is their own. It doesn't make it a mistake that you think they should have approached it differently. Perhaps T'Chaka wanted to give his brother a chance to come clean without revealing that Zuri was a spy. He may have decided to be more lenient in his punishment of N'Jobu had he told the truth.
13th Sep 2011
Rise of the Planet of the Apes (2011)
Corrected entry: Caesar the Chimpanzee spoke human words. However Great Apes' vocal chords make them unsuitable for speech as they are higher in their throats. Since the virus only affects the brain and doesn't physically change the location of the apes' vocal chords, it's impossible for Caesar to speak, no matter how smart he is.
Correction: Caesar spoke after he was exposed to the updated ALZ-113 drug. It is shown that this drug causes a physical side effect in humans when we see the exposed doctor sneezes blood, though no specifics were stated. Since this drug causes physical changes in humans, it is not unlikely that it could also cause a physical change in apes as well, allowing Caesar and other exposed apes to speak.
The exposed doctor has disease symptoms. That's not the same as changing the location of the vocal chords.
13th Jul 2017
Aliens (1986)
Corrected entry: When Ripley and the others are trying to figure out what they are dealing with Ripley suggests something is laying these eggs since there must be over 100. But she knows there already are hundreds if not thousands of these eggs so there is no reason to assume something is laying new ones. (01:34:40 - 01:35:15)
Correction: Ripley is running through the logic and realizing there is something they don't yet understand about the alien's life cycle: where the eggs come from. Even if they happen to be the same eggs from the derelict ship, the eggs had to have been created at some point, by something. But how? What is this process? She may have started out talking about how the specific colonists were taken over, but by the time she asks "who's laying these eggs," she's asking about the concept, in general. Because unless the creatures were specifically bio-engineered not to be able to, they almost certainly have the ability to create more eggs.
Correction: That's exactly what she means. She's saying something must've laid the eggs, and will likely continue to lay more.
But there is no reason for her to say there must be a queen lying these eggs, she knows there are eggs, there have been eggs there for decades.
In Alien, she doesn't know that though. She and the rest of the crew don't know what they've seen and what they're up against. Yes, she knows it's an alien but that's it.
She knows there are eggs from experiences in Alien where the eggs are discovered in the alien spaceship. Yet we don't see a queen alien. In Aliens, they aren't in the alien spaceship, they're in the atmosphere processing plant. Yes they're both on the same planet but do you think the eggs walked from one location to another? There must be something laying new eggs which Ripley hasn't yet seen.
My idea is that either the colonists or the xenomorphs themselves brought the eggs over to the colony. Perfectly logical if there is no queen. Sure it's also logical to think there is a queen, as movie viewers, but my point is there is no reason for Ripley to think something is lying these eggs whilst she knows there already were thousands of eggs.
Ripley is making the (correct) assumption that because the colonists are being taken deeper into the colony, and that the aliens have built a hive in the colony itself; that the eggs found there were laid there. If the hive had been built inside the derelict spacecraft, then Ripley likely wouldn't have made that assumption.
But why not think the aliens had taken the eggs from the derelict craft and taken them closer to the incubators, thus inside the colony? I just think it's far-fetched she immediately starts talking about a possible queen whilst there is hardly any reason to do so, where did the queen come from supposedly? All they know is some people from the colony brought aliens inside them into the colony and then all hell broke loose. Her assumption is nothing more than to help the plot along.
I don't think her assumption is far fetched at all. She assumes that the eggs must have been laid by something; which is logical. She then assumes the thing that laid the eggs is continuing to do so; which is also logical. Where the queen came from in never addressed in Ripley's conversation with Bishop. The two are merely speculating that there must an alien lying eggs and it must be something they haven't seen yet. It's quite a bit of a leap to think that the aliens somehow know that there are additional eggs miles away from the colony and they should go get them and bring them back. This borders on clairvoyance. It is much more logical, based on what the characters know and see, that the eggs in the colony were laid there.
But those eggs in the derelict ship have been lying there for an eternity, even if you would only count the amount of time Ripley has been asleep since she encountered them, no reason to think at all new eggs have been laid, no reason. Thousands of eggs were inside the derelict ship, the colonists were exposed to the aliens through those eggs, brought back to their colony inside themselves (they didn't bring eggs). It's ridiculous to think something then came, a queen, and nested inside the colony, unless a queen was brought along by the colonists, but Ripley and nobody in general have any idea how the aliens reproduce. It's more logical to think the aliens can reproduce on their own, not that a queen is needed. That's more of my point, the name "Queen" being used. That's what borders on clairvoyance. We know the Aliens have extrasensory perception (as shown in this movie) so them being able to sense the eggs that far away is a lot more believable to me.
I'm struggling with understanding your reasoning for why it is so unbelievable that Ripley and Bishop deduce that something is lying the eggs. Their explanation doesn't come anywhere close to clairvoyance. They make a logical guess that eggs are laid. They deduced, along with Hudson, that the creatures behaved in a similar fashion to ants or bees. That would mean logically a queen is lying the eggs. Once again, where the queen "came from" is never addressed in their conversation because it is irrelevant. The characters have much more than a general idea of how the creatures reproduce, they know everything pertinent except where exactly the eggs come from. I'm not understanding why you say it to be more logical that "the aliens can reproduce on their own, not that a queen is needed." If you are saying it to be more logical to think of the aliens as closer to chickens than ants (i.e., each creature lays it's own eggs), that doesn't make sense because they are basing their "ants" theory on the presence of a hive.
Well all right they may have guessed how the aliens behave and reproduce correctly, they did see all colonists together and probably incubated, a nest, fine. To me its all about the idea Ripley starts talking about a queen being down there from the fact there are over 100 eggs down there. Again, she knows there are thousands of eggs on the derelict ship already. What we know doesn't work for Ripley who knows nothing about those things. They aren't even sure how the aliens got to the colony and Ripley never mentions the derelict ship that had thousands of eggs again. For all she knows the colonists had already taken eggs from the ship back to the colony, why not think that's what going on? But she immediately jumps to the queen theory, which helps her later on.
Ripley mentions the derelict and the thousands of eggs both in the inquest and again on the Sulaco, both prior to the mission starting. Once they arrive on the planet and discover the hive they deduce that it might work like an ant colony or bee hive. Ripley questions "So what's lying these eggs?" to which Bishop responds "It must be something we haven't seen yet." Hudson is the first to suggest a possible queen. This conversation doesn't help Ripley later on in the movie. She literally just runs into the queen's chamber completely by accident. The conversation is just there to plant an idea in the audience's mind that there is an alien queen. You are arguing that based on what the characters know, they should have come to an incorrect conclusion (the aliens are taking eggs from the derelict back to the colony) rather than the correct one, if they came to any conclusion at all. You also say that "what we know" doesn't apply to what Ripley knows about the creatures, except that isn't true at all. At this point, Ripley knows everything about the aliens that the audience knows. Coming up with the idea that "these things built a hive like bees do. I wonder if that means they have a queen like bees and ants do?" is completely rational.
Let's agree to disagree then. What we know as the audience is that some colonists went to the derelict ship and brought back aliens inside them, Ripley and the marines don't know that as contact was lost and Newt isn't telling anything. Where do the eggs come from? The derelict ship should be the first idea, not that something is lying them, inside the colony even. Sure something once has laid them but that could have been thousands of years ago, where would a queen come from? All this, no logical reason to assume there is a queen. That's my opinion and why I posted the mistake.
We cannot agree to disagree because your theory is incorrect. It is safe to say that Ripley would logically deduce that neither the colonists nor the Aliens are capable of bringing 150 eggs hundreds of miles back to the derelict. It not possible. And as we see, the eggs are freshly laid, glistening wet. The most logical explanation is that a Queen was birthed from one of the colonists, as later happened to Ripley herself in "Alien 3."
If the colonists didn't bring eggs back how and why did they get facehuggers into the containment tanks and had time to study them? They just happen to have caught some? If they were that much into a crisis they wouldn't have wasted time examining them. No, they brought eggs back to study them, everything was going well until some got loose and escaped underneath the processing station, including a queen. Ripley never saw the eggs amount in the colony and the old ones looked just as "fresh."
If they brought back eggs, where were they? All we saw were the facehugger specimens. Surely Cameron would have shown us eggs in addition to them. He doesn't miss details like that. As such, the two live ones were "surgically removed before embryo implantation." Remember? The dead ones were from colonist rescuers answering Newt's family's mayday call. No way did they try to bring back the eggs without having gotten inundated first. Come on man.
It's not even the point. My point was always the use of the word Queen and Ripley's blind assumption the eggs were being laid fresh.
Again, that was the logical conclusion, not someone transferring dozens of eggs hundreds of miles from the derelict to the colony. Why would the colonists waste time doing that? Put yourself in Ripley's head for a moment. You don't really believe that in all that was going down that she'd logically conclude that someone, whether it be human or alien, would travel back and forth hundreds of miles to the derelict and bring eggs, do you? Neither did Cameron.
Note that when this scene starts the characters' discussion has been going on in circles for quite some time (much like this thread!). Ripley recaps what they've deduced so far ("let's go over it again") in the present tense, describing what appears to be an ongoing reproductive cycle (which if correct would render the derelict's eggs kind of moot) and when it hits a blank she prompts for suggestions. These aren't "blind assumptions"-they're testing theories and drawing tentative conclusions.
A Queen was obviously brought along by the colonists, as Ripley was impregnated herself by one in "Alien 3."
I never denied there was a queen brought back. But certainly not in that one facehugger that got stuck to Newt's dad's face. They brought back more. They had to, they must have contained the first one.
Obviously they did bring back more. Rescuers to Newt's family were inundated with facehuggers. Two were removed surgically before embryo implantation. The other three, which may or may not have included Newt's father, successfully implanted their embryos. One of which was obviously a Queen.
I find the theory that the aliens travelled hundreds of miles out to the derelict to fetch over 150 eggs to be far-fetched. Obviously Ripley logically deduced, based on the fact that there was a hive in the processing station, that there was something laying eggs.
The colonists were told by the company to find the derelict ship and bring back eggs to study, they were told, and they had plenty of time to get a lot of eggs before things went wrong for them. Newt's dad was just an incident, they continued their research and brought more and more eggs over. Therefore there is no reason for Ripley to think those eggs are freshly made.
Nope. Simpson, in the Special Edition, was told by Burke to investigate a grid reference. No explanation. Newt's family investigates and her father is facehugged. A rescue team comes to them and several members get facehugged as well. No eggs are transferred. The Aliens, including the Queen, are borne of these colonists and the Queen lays the eggs. Period. There is every reason for Ripley to think those eggs are freshly made. I don't know where you get these crazy ideas but you are dead wrong.
So you are telling me the people rescuing Newt's family were stupid enough to enter the ship as well and get facehugged just like Newt's dad did? And then more rescuers came to rescue these new schmucks? That's even more stupid.
Stupid people do stupid things. Ever read a story of how someone goes in a manhole and is overcome by carbon monoxide or something similar? They rarely find just the one body, but usually the one or two people who go in to "rescue" the first victim.
I've got no problem with stupid people doing stupid things. I just don't know what's the problem with my theory, if it's plausible. Again, it's not even the point of my problem with the scene in question.
Newt's parents did a stupid thing too, as did Kane. Otherwise we wouldn't have a movie. It's that your theory is implausible, period. The derelict served its purpose in the story and was no longer a concern to Ripley. She logically concluded that the hive eggs were being laid by someone or something. Surely no-one else was going back into the derelict to bring back eggs after what happened. Lesson learned. Occam's razor: all things being equal, the simplest explanation tends to be the right one.
6th Feb 2017
Doctor Strange (2016)
Corrected entry: If it's so easy for Stephen Strange, a mere student, to conjure up a gateway inside the library whilst it is forbidden and without being noticed by the guardian present, surely a former master like Kaecilius could easily do it as well and steal the entire book of Calgiostro instead of only a few pages, without anyone noticing. (00:44:05)
Correction: Kaecilus entered the library with a large group of followers and decapitated the guy watching them. He wanted to be seen. Secondly Kaecilus actually had the book in his hands, so if he wanted the book he would have taken it, instead of the pages he took.
12th Jan 2010
Constantine (2005)
Corrected entry: At the end, when Lucifer is shined upon by light from heaven, behind him you can see the lamps being used reflecting on the wet walls.
Correction: The lamps in the background are emergency lights that are all over hospital walls, and are not reflections.
28th Feb 2011
Flatliners (1990)
Corrected entry: At one point while the group is trying to bring back Rachel the power goes out and they freak as they can't defib. However, this is a portable defibrillator used by ambulance personnel which has its own power source. The only trouble they might have is they can't see as well.
Correction: The defibrillator wouldn't work because David was asked if he charged the batteries, and he indicated he didn't.
1st Jul 2014
Edge of Tomorrow (2014)
Corrected entry: There is no reason why Rita and Cage would try to escape the building after receiving the device from the general. Cage could have just simply stuck himself with it in the general's office and get the right vision without risk of being shot at and have his blood replaced, about which Rita warned him several times. After receiving the vision Rita could have just shot him and up the beach they go again towards the Louvre. The general would have not intervened, as at that moment he believed him.
Correction: The device is untried and they don't know exactly how it will work on Cage (ie. if it will incapacitate him) or how long the process will take, so it's not a good idea to try to do it in front of the general, who might need only a single moment of distraction to call for backup, or to disarm Rita and kill them or take them prisoner. It would not be wise to suddenly trust the general completely just because he finally gave them the device (at gunpoint, remember). You're also incorrect to say that 'at that moment he believed them'; he actually just wanted them to think he'd taken their side, so he could have the soldiers attack them as they left... The same thing he did to Cage during the blackmail scene.
28th Apr 2012
Battleship (2012)
Corrected entry: The first few projectiles fired on the destroyers by the aliens are taken out by a phalanx CIWS. However these systems use radar to track their targets, and the aliens have jammed all radar, so it shouldn't be working.
Correction: When the CWIS BLOCK B1b Upgrade was implemented beginning in early 2000-2002 [and continues to present], the CWIS system gained new tracking / engagement abilities. These include use of a FLIR [forward looking infrared] , AAVT [Automatic Acquisition Video Tracker], and E.O. [electro-optical] tracking. Although not originally intended for engagement of the inbounds found in the movie, it would be possible for an attentive Fire Controlman to successfully engage and neutralize said targets. Reference: http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ship/weaps/mk-15.htm.
28th Feb 2011
Skyline (2010)
Corrected entry: When the nuclear missile explodes onto the spacecraft Oliver was looking at it through a telescope. He would definitely have been blinded in one eye because of the flash and in severe pain, yet he doesn't show any sign of trauma or pain directly after.
1st Jun 2012
The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy (2005)
Corrected entry: When Arthur first arrives on the Heart of Gold, Trillian shows himr where he can get some tea. However, she shows him a machine that gives something from a tube that is almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea while there is a much better machine standing right next to it that would give you anything you crave just by reading your mind (a bagel, for instance). If Trillian had just shown him that machine, Arthur would have been drinking some good tea. The other machine is therefore totally useless.
22nd Apr 2011
The Book of Eli (2010)
Corrected entry: During the fight at the house, Redrigde picks up a box that was thrown out of a window. Realizing its a bomb he drops it right next to the front of a car. The next moment the car blows up but the explosion of the car originates from the middle of the car, not from where the box was laying.
Correction: This "mistake" has already been corrected, and is listed in the corrections. The canvas wrap was dropped at the front of the car, but the bomb itself was tossed back behind the car, roughly where the explosion occurs.
5th Dec 2010
Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows: Part 1 (2010)
Corrected entry: During the beginning at Malfoy Manor, Voldemort uses his wand to glide Charity Burbage over the table until she is very close to its end. He murders her, and she falls onto the table, very near to Voldemort, and where Draco Malfoy is sitting. However, when Nagini crawls onto the table, she slithers well past Draco, where the body is supposed to be lying, and lunges for the kill. (00:08:55)
Correction: Charity Burbage is beyond the opposite end from Voldemort, and he glides her just onto the far end, then kills her. Draco is looking away from him, towards the body. As such Nagini having to go past Draco is correct.
26th May 2011
Vanishing on 7th Street (2010)
Corrected entry: The generator in the basement works on petrol but they are almost out of it. However the streets are filled with cars with petrol in them, all they have to do is pump it out of the tanks. They could have power (and thus light) for months with that generator and so take a lot more time figuring out what to do next.
Correction: The generator was never dying due to the lack of petrol, the reason was because the electric charge was fading. This is confirmed in the scene where Paul takes a look inside it to identify the problem. After Rosemary points out that there actually is plenty of petrol (showing her with a bunch of cans with petrol on a shelf), Paul says that it doesn't matter, as the electric charge is fading anyway.
26th Jun 2011
Green Lantern (2011)
Corrected entry: When greeted by Tomar-Re on Oa Hal Jordan knows all about Tomar-Re's sector. He now knows the number of galaxies in it and number of inhabitants, because his ring has fed the information to him from its database. Yet, it doesn't make sense the ring's database doesn't seem to have any information about Oa, the green lantern corps or the guardians, and Hal has to ask Tomar-Re.
Correction: It's reasonable to assume that the Green Lantern initiation process specifies that the basic information should be supplied by another member of the Corps, and that only subsequent information can be downloaded straight from the power ring. After all, Hal finds it bizarre enough to suddenly know the information about Tomar-Re's sector - had the ring simply info-dumped the whole thing into his head right from the start, he could have completely freaked out, which could lead to him rejecting the ring entirely. A far more reasonable approach to start with a one-to-one chat, then let the ring do its thing after that.
3rd Aug 2010
Predators (2010)
Corrected entry: When Nikolai's minigun if seen firing for the first time, the barrels aren't moving at all.
Correction: This is because of a common stroboscopic optical illusion known as the "wagon-wheel" effect; caused by temporal aliasing. The best known example of this is when the wheels of a stagecoach appear to be stationary when in fact they are rotating, because they are rotating at exactly the same speed as the camera shutter, i.e. 24 times a second.
3rd Mar 2010
Office Space (1999)
Corrected entry: The "Salami Slicing" technique Michael Bolton has created with his virus will never work on modern banks. currency banking transactions are only conducted using integer-only functions. So there are no roundings that they can take away and put in a different account. Also, if the transactions would round the "fractions of a cent" off they would actually be creating money instead of stealing it, since the "fractions of a cent" normally disappear.
Correction: Firstly the movie takes place with banking and computer systems prior to 2000, not modern technology. Secondly, the whole point of using the virus is they thought that since they were updating all the programs for Y2K, they'd get away with it. Finally, the virus didn't work, which is the whole reason the amount of money in the account after only a day or two was so much higher than what they expected. As Michael says: "I suck at math."
12th May 2010
Iron Man 2 (2010)
Corrected entry: At the end of the movie, Tony stark sits at a desk with the Initiative preliminary report before him. Before he picks up the report in the foreground for a few moments you can see a news report with an Asian female reporter. However, this report has been looped as you see the same people walk past the reporter twice and her making the same facial expressions.
Correction: Of course it's looped. This isn't live - it would be a bit too much of a coincidence for the Hulk's battle at Culver University to be being reported live at that very moment. This is an earlier report on that battle that SHIELD have recorded; as such, hardly unreasonable for it to be displayed in a looped format.
It's an extremely short loop, is my point. Like, 3 seconds.
6th Oct 2009
Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (2009)
Corrected entry: At the beginning, the shard of the Cube drops onto the kitchen table and transforms all electrical equipment in the kitchen into Transformers. Sam's dad asks, when hiding behind the fountain, what they are and Sam replies, "The whole kitchen". However, Sam was on the 2nd floor when the kitchen appliances transformed, so he shouldn't have known all the Transformers came from the kitchen.
Correction: However, since all of them resemble kitchen appliances, it is an easy assumption for Sam to make.
22nd Aug 2009
Terminator Salvation (2009)
Corrected entry: How come the resistance didn't use the signal that shuts down machines on Marcus when he escaped from their facility? You could say they did try to use it off-screen and it probably didn't work as the signal is fake and Marcus is probably protected by its effect. But if the resistance finds out the signal won't work on all machines they would call off their attack. So why didn't they try to use it on Marcus?
Correction: Firstly, this is entirely worded as a question, and should have been submitted as such, but the answer is quite simple twofold. The resistance have no idea if it will shut down Marcus for the simple reason that he has an organic brain, not a neural net processor, and secondly, they don't yet want to disable something they don't fully understand. Marcus is an anomaly and a very interesting one to them, because he largely shouldn't exist.
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Correction: I don't see the paradox. Dr. Strange saw over 14m futures - seeing the one where they won would include seeing a shrinking flying woman. Enough time passes between the "return" snap and everyone appearing for him to spread the word around every fighter in the MCU - wouldn't take too much of an effort to track her down as well.
The good guys were able to get loads of heroes together including Valkyrie on her flying horse, the Ravagers and Howard the Duck. Clearly adding Wasp wasn't a problem.
Yeah but how did Strange know where to find her? She and the other Pyms were on a random roof somewhere, only Ant-Man knew where they were and Strange couldn't have talked to him about it, not knowing him either. Didn't really have time to ask anyone or do a search. He was kinda busy rallying everyone else.
lionhead
He's Dr. Strange, so the simple answer is he used magic. A wizard who can look into the future and see over 14 million alternate versions of it would have no trouble finding anyone he wanted to.