Terminator Salvation

Corrected entry: Kyle tells Marcus that you don't want to go out during night because the HKs have infrared. Contradicts what Kyle tells Sarah in the original movie: "You stay down by day, but at night you can move around." Doubt this was a mistake, but more of a difference in technology in the 25 years between production of the two movies. (00:26:50)

Correction: No mistake. Kyle says to Sarah: "You stay down by day, but at night you can move around. You still have to be careful because the HKs use infared."

Grumpy Scot

Corrected entry: Towards the end of the movie the bald girl (Skynet) explains everything to Marcus. How he is programmed to infiltrate the resistance and ultimately bring John Connor to the Skynet base. As a result of her story, Marcus rips out the chip and eventually saves John Connor and helps destroying the base. As I interpret it, that scene is only there to explain Skynet's master plan to the movie audience. If Skynet is smart enough to predict everything so far, it should be smart enough to realize Marcus might intervene. There is no logical reason why Skynet would jeopardize everything at this point.

Correction: The Marcus program achieved its primary goal by getting John Connor to the base. Like most software programs, it stops after reaching is goal. Skynet never really programmed Marcus beyond this point. There is no way a software program can plan for the unlimited number of scenarios that can happen beyond this point. Besides, they wanted the Marcus program to act as human as possible.


Corrected entry: In the scenes where Marcus is repairing the Jeep, you can see plants growing between the front seats. Yet a few scenes on, Marcus shoves Kyle out of the Jeep, saying, "I am driving," and the plants are now gone.

Correction: I wouldn't leave them in there, I'd yank them out. They're only gone "a few scenes on", so there was time to do so.

Phixius Premium member

Corrected entry: When Kyle captures a terminator by his foot using a cable, the terminator shoots his own foot off to get away. Since the cable would appear stationary since it is attached to the terminator, it would have been just as easy for it to shoot the cable a mere 6 feet away instead of blowing its own foot off.Something like a terminator that is designed to kill everything should have a targeting system that can engage a cable at 6 feet.


Correction: The captured Terminator is a T-600, and has been stated throughout the Terminator movies as being far inferior to the T-800 and doesn't have the same thought processes as the superior Terminators, therefore its decision to shoot off its own foot shows just how useless a design it was and why it was superceeded.


Corrected entry: After John traps the motorcycle terminator, he hotwires it and rides off. Why would an autonomous robot have external controls such as an accelerator or brakes?


Correction: Already submitted and corrected, I believe. The Moto-Terminator has external controls to facilitate use and operation by Humanoid Terminator models, should the need ever arise.

Phixius Premium member

Corrected entry: When Blair frees Marcus from the resistances chains, he falls face down (slightly tipped up), but he lands on his back, though he was falling straight down.

Correction: He starts falling face down, but there is a cutaway shot, during which it's possible he flipped, probably due to the chains around his feet, and his heavier torso than legs.


Corrected entry: Sarah's tape is played back differently than when she recorded it in the first movie. For example, in T1 she says, "If you don't send Kyle back, you can never be" before she says "A person could go crazy thinking about this." However, here in T4, the two lines are reversed. She also has a line about Kyle being a teenager, which is never said in T1, and in fact wouldn't make sense. Sarah was able to postpone Judgment Day after T1 which means that she changed the future - and it is through this altered future that Kyle is a teenager at this point. She couldn't have known this in T1.

Correction: There were years that had passed between T1 and T2, plenty of time for Sarah to re-record, edit, or add information, even make whole new volumes of tapes using most of her previous statements on a new tape.


Corrected entry: John says to Marcus that they have been at war since "before either of them existed". Marcus was born in 1975, and the first terminator goes back to 1984 to kill Sarah Connor, so Marcus was in fact 9 years old.


Correction: As far as Connor is concerned, he isn't talking to Marcus, the human convict that was executed. John is talking to a Terminator, created many years later, that merely looks like Marcus.


Corrected entry: At the beginning of the movie, John Connor is dumbfounded at the sight of the new terminator prototype. Why? After all, he had seen that and subsequent models as a child in the 3 previous movies.

Correction: Because he knows that it's too early. In the first film in the series, Reese, who came back in time from 2029, eleven years on from the events of Terminator Salvation, specifically states that the T-800 is a new model. The T-800s shouldn't be coming online for several more years, hence Connor's surprise.

Tailkinker Premium member

Corrected entry: When Marcus and Kyle are getting the Jeep in the wide shot a crew member is visible blowing up dust on the side of the mountain in the valley. (00:33:05)

Correction: There is no crewmember anywhere in these scenes that I can find, even with frame-by-frame review. The only shot that even suggests such a thing is when the camera is on a grassy slope, angled upward a bit as the Jeep begins to roll forward and down the hill. In the background toward the right is a telephone pole in front of a line of trees. Between the pole and Jeep, as the camera rises up, an object that suggests a human head is revealed. Just before the Jeep blocks our sight of it however, we see this dark, egg-shaped mass is atop a thin, dark pole... not a human neck.


Corrected entry: When John infiltrates Skynet and frees the human prisoners, a screen depicts an overhead view of all the cells (or at least the section of cells where Kyle Reese is contained), with the prisoners being represented by red dots. When he unlocks the doors, one can observe on the screen that all the doors are open, even though Kyle's door is still closed.

Correction: Skynet controls these computers, and skynet is trying to lure John to his death: of course they're going to lie to him.

Phixius Premium member

Corrected entry: During the scene where we come to the resistance air hangar at night, you can see a smoke grenade rolling along the floor near the nose of the plane to create smoke for the scene.

Correction: It could be a smoke grenade to signal any incoming vehicles or aircraft.


Corrected entry: In John Connor's first confrontation with Marcus Wright, he claims that Wright killed his father, Kyle Reese. But at this point, Connor has not yet even met Reese, much less sent him back in time to impregnate Sarah Connor and ascertain his birth. If Reese was in fact dead as John Connor believed he was, then Connor wouldn't even exist.

Correction: He's referring to the fact that the future version of Reese died prior to his birth, in the fight against the Terminator back in 1984, not that he believes that Wright has personally slain Reese in their present.

Tailkinker Premium member

Corrected entry: In the scene involving the Resistance fighters testing the 'control signal' on a hydrobot, a woman states that they have 'burned out' its transmitter, so it cannot send info back to Skynet. However, when Marcus talks to Skynet in the form of the dead doctor Serena Kogan, she shows him footage from that hydrobot of John Connors face.

Correction: That simply means that the humans were wrong. The whole thing was a ploy by the machines anyway. The signal they were testing was a ploy to bait the humans into attacking Skynet. It makes sense they would do what they could to make the humans think they were making progress.

Garlonuss Premium member

Corrected entry: When Marcus is using the Terminator's eye (the motorcycle one) he somehow is able to get through the base with another Terminator's eye that is meant to be on the highway. Surely he couldn't get in with that eye.

Dan Clason

Correction: Terminators move from place to place as part of their duties - they're not going to be rigidly assigned to one location with no ability to report back to base if required.

Tailkinker Premium member

Corrected entry: How come the resistance didn't use the signal that shuts down machines on Marcus when he escaped from their facility? You could say they did try to use it off-screen and it probably didn't work as the signal is fake and Marcus is probably protected by its effect. But if the resistance finds out the signal won't work on all machines they would call off their attack. So why didn't they try to use it on Marcus?


Correction: Firstly, this is entirely worded as a question, and should have been submitted as such, but the answer is quite simple twofold. The resistance have no idea if it will shut down Marcus for the simple reason that he has an organic brain, not a neural net processor, and secondly, they don't yet want to disable something they don't fully understand. Marcus is an anomaly and a very interesting one to them, because he largely shouldn't exist.


Corrected entry: When her human attacker points the HK USP pistol at Blair it makes three loud audible clicks as he cocks back the hammer. A real HK USP makes only two light clicks.

Correction: True but following Judgment Day, the survivors most likely modified that and many other weapons, quite possibly out of necessity as many weapons were either destroyed or damaged, or spare parts could not be easily obtained or manufactured.

Corrected entry: In the first movie, Kyle Reese explains to Sarah Connor about the Terminators as infiltration units, with human tissue, metallic endoskeleton, sweet, bad breath, etc; so they are very hard to spot. Reese then says to her, "I had to wait 'till he moved on you before I could zero him". Reese didn't know the look of the T-800 in 1984. But in "Salvation" Reese saw his face. Besides, John Connor knew this Terminator since he was a child. John and Kyle where together, so Reese should know the appearance of the Terminator before the time travel to save Sarah.

Correction: Kyle's seen a face, briefly before it gets burned off, in the middle of a highly stressful situation. He didn't exactly have a chance to sit there and thoughtfully study it, committing every last detail to memory for future reference. It's another ten years until Kyle has his date with a time machine, so the vague details that he does remember will have plenty of time to fade even further. John's knowledge of what the Terminator looks like is irrelevant. Even if John does describe the Terminator to Kyle, Kyle can't exactly travel around blowing away anybody who happens to fit the description; without a photograph, which Kyle couldn't take with him anyway, John's description could not possibly be specific enough for Kyle to be absolutely certain that he wasn't about to fire a shotgun into the face of some regular human who just happens to resemble the cyborg to some degree. He has no choice but to wait until the Terminator makes its move to be 100% sure of his target.

Tailkinker Premium member

Corrected entry: So, Skynet allows Marcus to shut down all the base's defenses so the Resistance and John Connor can get in, but it can't just turn them on again once they're inside?

Correction: At no point are we given an indication that ALL of the base's defenses are shut down. And some of the base's defenses ARE online, as per the fact that the prototype T-800 is deployed to kill John, and a T-600 is seen before the T-800 destroys it. It very well may be Skynet's plan to make the resistance think all of the defenses are offline, in order to lure them inside, and then send terminators to kill the fighters, or keep them alive to interrogate and experiment on them.

Corrected entry: At the end of the film when Marcus offers his heart to John Conner to save his life, what are the odds that he is an exact match for John. Many tests have to performed on a potential heart transplant patient to determine the tissue type matches and won't reject the heart. Also, it cannot be performed on the "fly" in a make shift army hospital tent. It requires many surgeons and trained transplant personal in an extreme sterile environment and takes many hours to perform.

Correction: As we don't see the actual operation take place, it's pure speculation as to just how sophisticated the medical facilities were and how many experienced medical staff were on hand to perform the operation. There is also no onscreen reference for how long the operation took. And finally, whilst it might seem a stretch that Marcus was a perfect donor for John, it's not impossible, and if it's not impossible, it's not a mistake.


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