Bishop73

27th Aug 2001

Eight Men Out (1988)

Factual error: The movie takes place during the year 1919. Yet before one of the World Series games the stadium announcer requests that everyone stand up to sing "the national anthem". The US did not have a national anthem until the 1930's when Frankin D. Rosevelt signed into law the Star Spangled Banner as the nation anthem.

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Suggested correction: According to Ken Burn's "Baseball", Burns and Ward verify that "The Star Spangled Banner" was sung at a baseball game in 1918 to support the efforts of American Troops in WWI- in which players like Ty Cobb, George Sistler, and Christy Mathewson all fought.

The mistake is saying the announcer called it the national anthem, not that they sung "The Star Spangled Banner."

Bishop73

15th Sep 2007

War of the Worlds (2005)

Corrected entry: In the final scene where the military begins to fire Javelin anti-tank missiles at the tripods, the missile flies a straight path. But; a Javelin is a "top attack" missile, meaning it goes vertical and comes down at a steep angle to hit a tank in the weakest part of the armor, so they would do the same thing to the tripods instead of a straight flightpath.

Correction: The Javelin missile has both a top attack mode and a direct attack mode (as documented in the publicly available U.S. Army, FM 3-22.37 "JAVELIN MEDIUM ANTIARMOR WEAPON SYSTEM"). With no evidence that the top armour on the tripods is particularly weak, the military have apparently decided to try the direct attack mode, possibly in hope of immobilising the tripods by damaging the leg structure.

Tailkinker

As a Javelin operator it's drops always.

Via Wikipedia: "The Javelin's HEAT warhead is capable of defeating modern tanks by attacking them from above where their armor is thinnest (see top-attack), and is also useful against fortifications in a direct attack flight." If you've got evidence that Javelins are incapable of direct attack, please post it.

It should be noted, the source cited on Wikipedia is not an official US military or Lockheed site and there's no indication where that page got their information. Lockheed Martin's website about the Javelin does not mentions direct attack, only top-attack (nor does Raytheon's).

Bishop73

The direct attack capability is widely documented, most officially in U.S. Army, FM 3-22.37 "JAVELIN MEDIUM ANTIARMOR WEAPON SYSTEM": http://www.survivorlibrary.com/library/fm_3-22x37_javelin.pdf, which is where the two graphs on the wikipedia page (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FGM-148_Javelin) documenting the top attack/direct attack flight profiles come from.

1st Jun 2004

Super Troopers (2001)

Corrected entry: In the scene where they pulled over the German couple, the kid was in the back seat at the start of the scene but he gets out of the car during the scene. You can't open a police car from the back seat. (00:38:35)

Correction: The window was open.

Except we see the kid with the back door open.

Bishop73

Correction: The only reason you can't open a cop car from inside is because the child safety lock is on. But they could easily flip it to the off position allowing the door to be open from the inside. It's a switch on the door, nothing special.

Bishop73

29th Jan 2005

Titanic (1997)

Corrected entry: When Jack is playing poker in the beginning of the movie with the Swedish guys and Fabrizio we can see a short shot of his cards. He then takes another card and wins by having a full house. However, there was no way to get a full house with the cards he had by just drawing one more card. (00:22:50)

Correction: What Jack has in his hands are 2 aces, 2 tens and a five. He discards the five and draws a ten. Making a full house.

lionhead

Correction: You must have missed the part where he trades two cards with Sven (the one Swedish guy) before picking up the single card. Thus, it is possible to get a full house.

Ssiscool

They didn't trade cards, even discards 1 card and Jack gives him a card off the top of the deck. They were playing 5 card draw. I don't know any form of poker that involves trading, unless 2 people are cheating.

That's the whole point of the scene - Jack and Sven are cheating.

No they are not. If you pause you can see he has the right cards. No cheating.

lionhead

The cheating comment doesn't even make sense because Sven is playing against Jack and Sven loses. Plus, you're suggesting 2 people cheated over the table in plain sight of the 2 other players. In the scene, Jack is the dealer and the deck is to his left. When he gives 2 cards, they come from the deck and he takes the 2 cards and discards them next to the deck. Jack doesn't trade his own cards with anyone. He again gives 1 card from the deck and discards the 1 card. Then he takes his 1 card (which gives him the full house. Which is kind of pointless because his 2 pair was already the best hand).

Bishop73

10th Dec 2019

Tommy Boy (1995)

Character mistake: When Tommy is being shown his new office the glass reads "Thomas R. Callahan III, " but when Tommy is introduced as the new President of the company he is introduced as "Tom Callahan, Jr." which would be his dad. (00:11:35 - 02:11:55)

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Suggested correction: It is possible (probably not common) to be a "III" and a "Jr." If you are named after your father, and he is still alive you are a Junior. If you both share the name with another member up the family tree say your great grandfather, then your father would be a "II" and you would be a "III." But since your father is still alive, you can still go by junior. I've known one person in this situation.

I guess you missed the part of the movie where his father died. He's made the new president because his dad is dead, not alive, negating your main point.

Bishop73

His dad literally just died, and most people don't know the specifics of the naming rules. That would be a character mistake of the person introducing him.

When Tommy is made president and introduced, that's at the end of the film. So, no, his dad didn't literally just die. Plenty of time passed. But the correction is wrong on its premise, but that's not to say a different argument couldn't be made why the mistake is wrong.

Bishop73

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Suggested correction: I think she meant that Eddie has never maintained a stable job for a long time - a career.

This seems like a guess without watching the scene. She says specifically "Eddie doesn't work...As long as I've known him, he's never had a single job." Hardly a line to say if she meant he's never had a career or long term job.

Bishop73

I actually did watch the scene before I submitted my correction. However, I will agree with you that my guess is weak. It's just how I interpreted what Claudia says.

I've actually met people who think a job is not "real" unless it's a full-time, long-term career. They don't consider a pizza parlor job to be a "real job", even though it certainly is.

1st Nov 2007

Mr. Brooks (2007)

Factual error: Towards the end, the Oregon license plate on a Ford is shown. The plate reads "WIE 1Z0". Oregon does not use the letters "I" or "O" on its license plates as they may be mistaken for "1" or "0". (01:28:00)

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Suggested correction: Filmmakers usually substitute fictional information for addresses, phone and drivers licenses for privacy and liability reasons. For instance the '555' exchange is often used for phone numbers since that exchange does not exist in the USA. By using the 1 and the 0 on the license, there is no possibility that a real license number could be identified.

The "555" analogy is wrong since the mistake is saying Oregon wouldn't use the numbers, so it would be like having a phone number with letters or the wrong amount of numbers (both of which would also prevent a real number being used).

Bishop73

Just FYI changing types is an option - some entries get the type "locked" to stop repeated back and forth attempts to change them, but many don't. That said I've just amended the setup so all members can now submit proposed type changes even for "locked" entries.

Jon Sandys

16th Jul 2004

The Core (2003)

Corrected entry: When the FBI raid Rat's apartment, he tosses the CDs in the microwave, and the timer starts at around 6 minutes and right after that the FBI comes in. About 5 seconds later you hear the FBI yell "FREEZE" to Rat and the microwave stops. The microwave was set to over 6 minutes, not under 5 seconds.

Correction: This mistake is wrong. The display on the microwave was showing the time of day, not the length of time to microwave. This is made obvious by the fact that it was showing the time (6:42) well before Rat touches anything. He doesn't set the microwave. He puts the CDs in, then hits a preset.

All well and good except one thing...when Rat hits start, the timer starts counting down from 6:42 to 6:41. He must have had it at 6:42 remaining on the last thing he cooked and just hit start on it to resume cooking.

oldbaldyone

I agree, the 6:42 is not the time of day but the cook time and begins to count down. It's even possible with everything else he had ready to destroy his equipment he kept the microwave ready too. He starts the microwave after the Feds break down the door, and there's no way a group of Feds would take over 6 minutes to find Rat in that apartment.

Bishop73

Revealing mistake: When the Charger hits the red truck, the truck turns over with the assistance of a 'pipe cannon' (note the sudden eruption of white smoke from under the truck). This device is like a large gun, pointed down that fires a cylindrical wooden 'bullet' at the ground, and the pressure behind it forces one side of the truck upward, causing the flip. Evidence of its use is seen when the passing cop drives away and in the street is a perfectly circular 'dent' in the asphalt with a burn mark surrounding it. (01:12:50 - 01:16:20)

johnrosa

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Suggested correction: A cannon roll uses a large device, usually a metal pipe that is pointed down, but it does not fire a "bullet" wooden or otherwise. It is just the force of the explosive charge focused downwards that causes the cars to roll over.

A cannon roll shoots out a wooden log to flip a vehicle, it's not just shooting out air.

Bishop73

This is just nonsense, a wooden log would be too dangerous to use, would be highly conspicuous on screen, and would take up room inside a vehicle.

Jukka Nurmi

Then you don't know how they use to do car stunts. It does take up room, but even modern methods do. Cars have to be modified heavily and of course it's dangerous, they're flipping a car with a driver inside. Film makers do everything they can to avoid the stunt car from being detected (just the same way they do everything that can to avoid a dummy being detected). Here's a article that talks about car stunts before the pneumatic flipper. Https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a15364815/the-inside-story-of-the-academy-award-winning-car-inversion-device-or-how-to-flip-cars-real-good/.

Bishop73

Bishop73 is right. For example, from Raiders of the Lost Ark: https://www.moviemistakes.com/picture6238.

Jon Sandys

17th Jan 2011

2 Fast 2 Furious (2003)

Factual error: During the scenes where the drivers are all racing to the impound lot, Verone and Fuentes are doing background checks on the drivers. When they show the shot of Roman Pearce's California driver's license information, it shows his DOB as Apr 12, 1973, A License issue date of 03/24/90, and Expires Date of 03/24/01. Driver's licenses don't expire on the anniversary of the issue date, they expire on the driver's month and day of birth. So his driver's license should show an expiration date of something like 04/12/01 instead. (00:31:45)

Tormoni

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Suggested correction: Not all state's driver's licenses expire on their birthday, or at least not anymore. Example: my current driver's license expires on the anniversary of when I got it Aug 16th, but my birthday is in June.

Pearce's is a California license; in the timeframe of the movie expiration date matched DOB.

Sammo

I've never heard of a State license doing this. Which State is this? Although the mistake is valid.

Bishop73

According to google, "Every California license expires on your birthday five years after it's issued" (I can't seem to access the CA DMV website at the moment) but it does seem as though the mistake is, as you say, valid.

Ssiscool

My reply was to the corrector who claims his/her State's driver's license expires on the issue date, which is something I've never heard of. So I was asking which State his/her license was from, not the movie's license.

Bishop73

Sorry, my mistake. On my page it was formatted as though you were replying to Sammo. Looking online, Delaware is one state where the licence expires 8 years after issue and not on your birthday (at least from what I can see).

Ssiscool

Delaware driver licenses, while issued for 8 years, still expire on the driver's birthday.

Bishop73

26th Jun 2019

The Undefeated (1969)

Corrected entry: When the government men were going to purchase the wild horses for the army, they offered to buy them at twenty five each. The Mexican men offered fifty five each, but John Wayne said he was selling them for thirty five each. So which is it? (00:30:15)

Correction: I heard the Mexican government men say $35.

I played it several times, they did say $55.

I too played it over and you hear him say $35. Even the transcript says $35.

Bishop73

I played it over and over, and it's definitely $35.

Sammo

23rd Jan 2008

General questions

In American movies, I sometimes notice little flag shaped things on people's letterboxes, that can be moved up and down. In Australia, where I live, I've never noticed these, nor have I noticed them in countries I've visited (I haven't visited America). What is the purpose of these flag shaped things, and are they solely American?

Blibbetyblip

Chosen answer: It's actually a very practical device, and they are mostly used in rural areas that have roadside letterboxes. The homeowner raises it when there is outgoing mail to be picked up. The postal carrier can put the flag in the "up" position when there's a delivery.

raywest

I've never heard of any mailman doing that. The signal flag is only for outgoing mail.

Bishop73

I think the question is about the "little flag" (usually yellow), not the standard red flag that the owner raises when s/he puts outgoing mail in the box and doesn't want the postal carrier to bypass the mailbox if there is no mail to be delivered to that address that day. Regarding the small yellow flag that is near the bottom of the door (whereas the red flag extends above the box to be more visible), the yellow flag pops up when the mail box's door is opened. The carrier doesn't have to "put the flag up" to indicate a delivery - it is automatic - again, the flag goes up when the door goes down (is opened). The yellow part usually faces toward the house so that the homeowner (or renter) can see from the window if any mail has been delivered. With mailboxes that do not have the little flag, people have to walk to the mailbox to see if there is any mail. The mailboxes with the little flags can be bought on-line but are becoming obsolete with "informed delivery" emails.

KeyZOid

Answer: Outgoing mail to be picked up? The US doesn't have post boxes? How strange.

The US does have post boxes, but if someone decides to install a full service mailbox, it's more convenient. Generally using the post box can be a bit faster since the mail carrier who picks up the mail might not return in time for the mail to be processed that day.

Bishop73

31st Aug 2020

Halloween 4 (1988)

Question: Why transfer him at night in bad weather? That and given his past why not have him cuffed to the gurney and have armed guards there regardless of his comatose state?

Rob245

Answer: The best in-universe answer I could give you to your first question is that Michael just happened to be scheduled to be transferred at night and the weather ended up being crummy. I've been transferred between hospitals at night before. (Albeit, I'm not a homicidal maniac.) But honestly, the real answer is simply... "because movie." It's a horror movie - it's just more dramatic for the scene to be set at night during lousy weather. It wouldn't be nearly as effective a scene if it was during the day in nice weather. A dark, stormy night is sort-of a convention of the genre. As for the second question, he was severely burned in a fire and has been in a comatose state for years and years. Realistically, it was safe to assume he wouldn't wake up, and even if he did, a normal person's muscles would have likely softened into jelly in the meantime. They assumed they'd be safe... but they were wrong.

TedStixon

The question would be why did the characters transfer him at night in bad weather, not why did the film makers set it up like that. The viewer may thought he or she missed the in-film explanation or was looking for someone with expertise in transferring patients to provide an answer. And again, was there any in-film explanation given or persons with experience in transporting patients like Michael (albeit without supernatural powers). Pointing out the caveat of character's actions isn't realistic because it was scripted that way is fine, but pointing out that a movie is a movie isn't a valid answer (or correction).

Bishop73

I did amend my answer slightly before I saw your response. I really don't think my initial answer was that invalid though. That's honestly the truth - it was done that way for dramatic purposes, and any other answer would be pure speculation.

TedStixon

If no in-film explanation is given, speculation is OK as long as it aligns with something that would happen in real life (although I would suggest saying it's speculation). Sometimes people do ask question about why film makers would do something, and an answer like "to make it more dramatic" would be acceptable.

Bishop73

31st Aug 2020

Total Recall (1990)

Other mistake: When Quaid goes through the x-ray machine the first time, the person behind the man with the dog isn't shown to be carrying anything (there's no purple object shown). But then later the purple object is seen.

Bishop73

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Suggested correction: Could simply be someone else with an item passing the person without any. He was walking very slow and certainly 1 person passed him, could be another one did as well.

lionhead

Two people would have had to pass him and there's nothing to indicate 2 additional people were walking that much faster than him, or close to him.

Bishop73

They were off camera before. 1 person definitely did pass him so a second person doing the same is not unlikely.

lionhead

They weren't off screen long enough.

Bishop73

I've seen this part multiple times. Who you see behind Quaid before entering the machine is first a woman with a handbag, then a man with mustache and case, then a blind man with a dog, after him a woman with a handbag again and more people. Now, the man with the mustache and case and the second woman with the handbag probably paused before entering the machine because we don't see them when Quaid passes, only the first woman with a bag, then a blind man with a dog and then a man with nothing. So both must have then sped up and then passed the man holding nothing. You see them walking faster than the others too. Not illogical when people are rushing to work or home either.

lionhead

27th Aug 2001

Total Recall (1990)

Revealing mistake: After the fight with Richtor, Arnie throws his severed arms off the elevator. If you look closely at the bottom of the elevator you can see the arms do not fall all the way down. They disappear once they hit the floor of the stage Arnie is acting on - they forgot to animate some arms falling on the bluescreen image.

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Suggested correction: Rictor's arms were torn off when the elevator passed through a floor or a tier or something. Is it not possible that this is where the arms fell to? I don't think they were meant to fall all the way down...

You missed the point of the mistake. It's not about the arms falling to the Mars ground. As the elevator platform is moving up, we can see the background below the platform. When the arms are tossed over, they should be visible below the platform as they fall, since it's open space. But in the scene, the arms just disappear once they hit the real life stage ground because they weren't added in during post.

Bishop73

11th Dec 2006

The Italian Job (2003)

Factual error: When Mark Wahlberg is trying to evade the helicopter, he runs into a dead end made up of two buses attached to a tow truck. The problem is that they're MUNI buses, and MUNI only runs in the San Francisco bay area, so these would be no where in the Los Angeles area.

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Suggested correction: The Muni bus is not exclusive to San Fran. I lived north of Halifax NS, and there were 18 GMC silverside MUNI buses.

"Muni" buses aren't a brand or model. Muni is short for San Francisco Municipal Railway, which is a transit service owned by the San Francisco Municipal Transit Authority. The SFMTA does not operate anywhere else in California, and certainly not in a foreign country. Los Angeles is served by Metro, not Muni.

Bishop73

8th Sep 2013

The Italian Job (2003)

Other mistake: In the opening boat chase in Venice, the safe is supposedly represented by a metal pipe structure covered by cloth. But it doesn't flap or wave in the wind at all. On the contrary it has completely straight sides. It is quite clear that there must be a box underneath. (00:10:00)

Jacob La Cour

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Suggested correction: It may seem like that, in actuality there is a military grade fabric Lycra-Kevline that does not buckle or wave like ordinary fabrics.

This correction seems to have been made without watching the scene and understanding the mistake. Plus I think they meant to say "Kevlar." But, whatever material they're thinking of wouldn't behave like a solid piece of wood by not moving in the wind. And, the material wouldn't magically make rounded corners straight edged.

Bishop73

Agreed. The cloth in the film has perfectly crisp uniform edges. The steel poles are rounded whereas the 'safe' isn't.

Ssiscool

22nd Jan 2004

Jaws 2 (1978)

Continuity mistake: In the scene where Chief Brody comes home drunk, Deputy Hendricks comes over to express his sorrows. When he's leaving/already left, Both Ellen & Chief Brody comment on Hendricks as "Poor Jeff." In the first Jaws film, Brody calls him Lenny. Jeff is actually the first name of the actor who played Hendricks.

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Suggested correction: It was a retcon from the filmmakers. Originally his name was Lenny, and then they changed it to Jeff. Same thing with The Mayor's children in the first movie. In the sequel, he only has one son; Larry Jr.

Not really a retcon, simply a mistake. Not every change, intentional or not, can be hand-waved away as a retcon.

The correction is valid. The person who submitted the mistake didn't watch the scene. They never said "poor Jeff", it was "poor Hendricks." But both Martin and Ellen call him "Jeff" in the scene and his name is said 3 times. Plus, if you read over the original script, the name "Jeff Hendricks" is mentioned 4 times.

Bishop73

8th Nov 2004

Airplane (1980)

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Suggested correction: Wings don't sprout out of a plane's nose. They would be significantly further back on the fuselage and out of sight.

Except you can see on either side of the nose, there's nothing blocking the view of the wings. There's no way for them to be so far back that you couldn't see them.

Bishop73

21st May 2020

Common mistakes

Factual error: In movie plots that take place hundreds or even thousands of years ago, the characters have perfectly white, straight teeth. It is a known fact that Queen Elizabeth I was virtually toothless by age 40. Good dental hygiene didn't really exist until after WWII. Some movies get it right, but only for the bad guys.

odelphi

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Suggested correction: False teeth have been around for centuries; they could be made from a variety of materials including wood, porcelain, or even human teeth taken from corpses or people who willingly sold their teeth to make some quick cash. People with the means to do so could acquire them quite easily, and they were often indistinguishable from a person's own natural teeth.

zendaddy621

Your reasoning is very weak. Yes, false teeth have been around for centuries, but even today with much better technology, with close observation you can tell someone has false teeth. Everyone knew G. Washington had false teeth. No, these characters from 500 years ago are not ALL wearing false teeth.

odelphi

Australian Aboriginals have (had, before colonization) almost perfectly white, straight teeth and it's known that this is somehow related with their foraging diet. If it's true, then most people back ago could have almost perfect teeth too.

Furthermore, widespread tooth decay before great age was only a rich person's problem until refined sugar became cheap, so the peasants wouldn't have bad teeth either.

dizzyd

Tooth decay is not caused by refined sugars. Any carbohydrates will promote bacterial growth, which can cause tooth decay. Additionally acidic food and drinks and alcohol (which can be high in carbohydrates) can damage the teeth and promote bacterial growth. And the mistake is talking about movies in general with countless characters, not a few select characters with significant means.

Bishop73

Thanks for your response. You said it better than I could have.

odelphi

I mostly agree with you, but I am talking about characters who are rich with perfectly white teeth (and more importantly) great gums - no recession. What I disagree is that only sugar causes teeth decay. Not true. Virtually all food breaks down into simple sugars with enzymes in your saliva.

odelphi

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