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19th Sep 2019

Agatha Christie's Poirot (1989)

The Adventure of Johnnie Waverly - S1-E3

Plot hole: In the original story, it is made clear that Mrs. Waverly is the one in the family with the wealth, but it does not go as far as having everyone, guests included, eat plain rice and boiled potatoes, and have the mansion dilapidated with restoration work left unfinished for years. This creates several plot holes: nobody would be interested in asking lavish amounts of ransom money to people who live an impoverished life, and most importantly, the husband would never be able to justify being able to have enough money to suddenly resume construction work on the house (in the original, he simply wanted to use it as spending money).

12th Sep 2019

Warcraft (2016)

Plot hole: Durotan's clan is the Frostwolf clan, orcs who ride big white wolves. The problem is...they are riding those wolves when they are in the human world, but those huge wolves made to be orc mounts were not with them when they crossed the portal from their homeworld. Unless the human world has the same wolves and they managed to tame them in record time, it's inexplicable.

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Suggested correction: Once the portal opens hordes of orcs start running into the portal. Just because you didn't see any wolves among them doesn't mean there weren't any. They obviously brought their wolves with them. They probably entered through last along with some food and tools they might need.

We see the portal close once the sorcerer blows life into the baby and the whole invasion force is on screen. Those few warriors are all that comes through the portal, which makes sense given what he said about having limited energy to transfer only a few people.

No, no. I thought you were going to say that. Look at it again, when the portal closes there are orcs standing all around it, cheering. There are hundreds of them, you saw scores of orcs run into the portal as well. Surely there are wolves amongst them as well.

There is a line of orcs around the portal, yes (still few in the context of the invasion), but there are no wolves there either, no wolves heard howling or anything. I don't know: no wolves shown running into the portail, no wolves shown exiting the portal, no wolves standing amongst those around the portal, nor heard, not even with the chieftan of the tribe that rides them. I find it easier to think that they just made them up on the spot in pure "fridge logic" to homage the game (they are not seen in the movie much nor they have a really important role) rather than postulating that perhaps there's a wolf herder guy who brought along a few dozens wolves that happen to be hidden now amongst the trees.

It may be easier to believe that, but doesn't make it impossible. Just because you didn't see them doesn't mean they weren't there. It's plausible, therefore no error and certainly not a plot hole, certainly not since you agree they don't have an important role.

I don't find it plausible since there isn't the faintest hint of it shown in the movie in a scenario where we are supposed to see all their forces: if it did not make such a point of that, I am sure I could agree with you. It's not a matter of filling in blanks left by the movie, it's about contradicting what was on screen. It's easily (or logically, if you will: I use the word 'easily' in an Occam's razor sort of way) explained (and not justified) by the wolves being 'fanservice' homage in a couple scenes, which made them easy to overlook (because they forgot or because they did not care, we can't know that) when it came to planning the invasion scenes. I believe it fits the definition of 'plot hole' because however unimportant and cosmetic of an element it is, giving a character or a group of characters something that was not there before 'breaks' the movie world as represented. I am however fine with any other category, I wouldn't split hairs on that and I welcome your different opinion. :-).

12th Sep 2019

Miss Fisher's Murder Mysteries (2012)

King Memses' Curse - S1-E13

Plot hole: At the end of the previous episode Foyle infiltrated the Fisher household and cut the telephone line. However in this episode, taking place just the morning after, no mention at all of the event is made and Bert and Cec off camera phone the police with no anomalies reported.

12th Sep 2019

Miss Fisher's Murder Mysteries (2012)

King Memses' Curse - S1-E13

Plot hole: The coroner finds the stones "in the nasal cavity" after Miss Fisher's intuition, but he already had examined it in both cases due to the bleeding. Also, it's inexplicable how with the previous case being ruled as the death of a drug addict with no particular findings, the coroner would have still lying around the body to examine for autopsy even when Hugh said the body was found a week before.

12th Sep 2019

Miss Fisher's Murder Mysteries (2012)

Blood and Circuses - S1-E11

Plot hole: Miss Fisher and Samson have to find the right, narrow, timeframe to sneak into the ringmaster's tent and go through his belongings. But they seem to have an unlimited amount of time once afterwards, since they flat out take the big crate he has in plain view containing all sorts of incriminating evidence, and then have all their time to get to the station to bring the evidence to Jack, compare serial numbers, have a lab check on the vials, even dig up graves, all without Mr. Jones getting suspicious in the slightest.

12th Sep 2019

Wheels on Meals (1984)

Plot hole: When Sylvia gets grabbed in her apartment by the bad guys, she's screaming from the get-go and they are standing in front of the door all the time. So Moby should have heard her as he approached the door to ring the doorbell, the door obviously lets sound pass pretty well since he hears her muffled whimpers a few seconds later even being at distance. Somehow, her making noise becomes an issue only once the doorbell has rung and was a non-factor before. (00:43:50)

12th Sep 2019

Miss Fisher's Murder Mysteries (2012)

Away with the Fairies - S1-E8

Plot hole: Camellia is awake when she is being carried away, and later in the episode she fights using martial arts. It is unclear how even caught by surprise she was apprehended without a single sound being made except two times by doors slamming and not even a whimper...considering she is even not gagged.

12th Sep 2019

Miss Fisher's Murder Mysteries (2012)

Murder in the Dark - S1-E12

Plot hole: When Arthur makes his appearance in the room during Jack's preliminary visit, nobody addresses him by name, and yet Jack simply says he'll have to question every member of the household "Including Arthur." (00:05:00)

7th Sep 2019

Middle School: The Worst Years of My Life (2016)

Plot hole: Rafe is not a supernatural being, and besides not suffering any fatigue at all missing his sleep to do his pranks, some are outright impossible to execute and perform overnight for a person of his age (most likely for an adult in their prime too). Covering the entire hall and corridors, plus the principal's office, with post-it stickers requires a ridiculous amount of stickers to begin with, and arranging them creatively covering the whole walls, floor to ceiling, so that they create drawings, is an insane concept. Even more insane when it's the opening prank, anything he does later in the movie including the big movie finale requires less labor and time than his first act did.

7th Sep 2019

Miss Fisher's Murder Mysteries (2012)

Raisins and Almonds - S1-E5

Plot hole: It turns out in the climax of the episode that there are no bullets left in the gun and Miss Fisher knew it. That would mean then that she deliberately wasted minutes with Simon bleeding out on the floor when Chaim was holding them at gunpoint with an empty revolver, for no discernible purpose.

7th Sep 2019

Miss Fisher's Murder Mysteries (2012)

Death at Victoria Dock - S1-E4

Plot hole: The anarchists were alarmed enough by Nina running away to abandon their safehouse in a hurry, but still go through with their plan to rob the bank as planned - hard to see why, since it was a generic bank robbery and nothing about it seemed time sensitive - and look totally dumbfounded by Peter's presence or the fact that it could all be a trap, when it's obvious their plan had been exposed - it's why they left, after all.

5th Sep 2019

Tooth Fairy (2010)

Plot hole: Obviously, tooth fairies are real, in this movie at least. During the movie, Derek has to retrieve each child's tooth and put money under the pillow. He's paged as soon as the kid loses the tooth, since he often has to wait till the kid goes to bed before intervening, and he is required to do it as soon as possible. But parents are doing the same, and at one point in the movie Derek actually stops a dad that just did the swap and extorts the tooth from him. That of course creates a parodox: the majority of parents in the world apparently have been subjected for centuries to the freak occurrence of finding already under their pillows mysterious money and their children's baby teeth missing as they go do the deed themselves. You can't have both the fairy and the parent do the same task.

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Suggested correction: This is part of the suspension of disbelief for holiday movies like this. Doing this means you would have to apply the exact same logic to every Christmas movie depicting Santa as real leaving presents for children when the parents would just see gifts appear they didn't leave behind.

I thought the same, but the thing is, it's all left to the imagination, for instance you can assume there's some "magic" that makes the parents forget everything and just assume they bought the gifts themselves even if they did not. If they meet Santa, it's considered a special deal, and its consequences are not shown, so it all stops here. Not here, here there are specific magic devices (a magic dust of forgetfulness exactly to erase memory of what happened, for instance) that in this encounter is not used by The Rock. So this movie is awfully specific about the interaction between the magical agents and whatnot, to the point that they need to erase their traces and not be spotted, but those rules don't make internal sense. Had they said nothing about it, I would have just assumed it was like every Santa movie as you mentioned, where it is not presented by the movie itself as an issue with contradictory solutions.

5th Sep 2019

Miss Fisher's Murder Mysteries (2012)

The Green Mill Murder - S1-E3

Plot hole: Talking about the murder weapon, the coroner says that the wound was a "horizontal" stab. Nerine's confession is ruled out because she mimics the attack at an angle. Funnily enough though, during interrogation, Jack himself makes a remark about the stage being a spot overseeing the room, and the killer was in fact on stage, and standing. When we see briefly the flashback of the murder, it's clear that the trumpet is way above the head of everyone dancing. So the projectile wound would hardly be "horizontal."

5th Sep 2019

Miss Fisher's Murder Mysteries (2012)

The Green Mill Murder - S1-E3

Plot hole: The murder weapon during Miss Fisher's demonstration hardly appears to generate enough momentum not just to send a projectile across the room with lethal force, but also do it achieving full penetration through clothes, disappearing entirely inside the body so the coroner wouldn't notice. That's assuming that the coroner did not even bother to in fact open up the cadaver and perform autopsy, which would be strange, especially with a weapon of undisclosed characteristics, when finding out more about the depth and damage to internal organs would have been crucial. And with any autopsy the dart would have been found, solving the case almost immediately. (00:49:45)

5th Sep 2019

Underworld (2003)

Plot hole: Even assuming that creating a manhole underneath your own feet Looney Tunes-style shooting a gazillion bullets around you through the floor is a better battle strategy than using said bullets to shoot at the three remaining wolves charging at you in the small corridor, said creatures don't suddenly stop existing just because you fell down one floor, making their complete disappearance - they do not give chase through the hole or stairs nor even make as much of an angry sound throughout the rest of the scene.

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Suggested correction: I think this is more a stupidity than a plot hole. She could have escaped or defeated the wolves in any kind of ways, it's not a plot hole that she escaped by using a tactic that is illogical but not impossible.

I would absolutely agree about the silly tactic itself, but there were pursuing werewolves in that corridor, and for the remainder of the scene she just faces Lucian. There's no explanation why they don't come through the same hole, or take the stairs, or claw a hole through like they seemed to easily do in Michael's apartment.Not even a snarl: she drops one floor and they are...gone? So that part feels like a plot hole to me.

2nd Sep 2019

Wu Assassins (2019)

Plot hole: In the very first episode, the Wu Assassin (who hasn't even been properly trained yet) is fast enough to dodge bullets, that appear slowed down to him, leaving a trail behind them. At no other point in the series does the assassin exhibit that sort of speed and reflexes - in the penultimate episode he definitely can't dodge bullets, although the villains use automatic weapons so the comparison is in part unfair. It sure seems that he has been 'nerfed', or that he was accidentally written too overpowered in the first episode.

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Suggested correction: I watched the scene and there's nothing to indicate he's seeing the bullets appear slowed down for him and he's not dodging bullets from his incredible speed. He's just zig zagging in a narrow hallway as he approaches the shooter, causing the shooter to miss because he doesn't know where to fire at (not that he was a skilled shooter in the first place.) He didn't dodge the first shot, he just reacts to a bullet going by him so closely. The bullet trail was a visual effect for the audience.

He's literally following the first bullet with his eyes, turning: the trails are there for the audience but it's a fact that he turns his head to the first bullet and dodges the second moving out of the way once it has been fired already, and he moves out of the way of the third once the shot has been fired as well, I call that incredible speed! That scene looks way more matrix-y than it had reasons to be compared to the rest of the show, imo. And he has not been trained yet. Valid point that the guy was most likely a terrible shooter and the last couple of shots are bad misses to begin with, but the bullet speed is the same anyway once a bullet has been fired, regardles of who fired it. I upvoted your comment though because I appreciate feedback and if your different perception of the scene is important.

2nd Sep 2019

Dark Phoenix (2019)

Plot hole: The shapeshifting aliens without even flinching take full barrages of M4A1 carbines point blank, absorbing in full all the damage, but somehow they can be kicked and punched and get hurt and stopped by scraps of metal, knives, whips, Beast clawing at them, and even better, the non-superpowered Nightcrawler snaps the neck of one of them.

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Suggested correction: None of them are killed or actually harmed by any of the attacks as later shown when they just get up again. They have stolen human bodies and those bodies still react like a real human body does, they just take some time to regenerate.

Without mentioning the D'baris from the comics who don't steal bodies but just pose as humans, in this movie they are shown having their own body to begin with, with an ability to assimilate humans with their memories and appearances: it's doubtful they'd have a spine to snap. Their reactions are just all over the place though: they take virtually no time to regenerate full barrages of automatic weapons, staying all the time on their feet not even flinching and showing no pain (also, being equipped with superhuman strength, since they toss people all the way from one end of the train wagon to the other with one hand). They show no reaction to bullets maiming them, but if it's a main character taking a swing, then it's a hit - even if non lethal. The main villain reacts to no bullets but when Nightcrawler was cutting her up she swayed wildly under his every strike, just as an example. I get it that it's choreographic, but it just makes no sense.

The turret shot bullets through them and they quickly healed.

2nd Sep 2019

Wu Assassins (2019)

Ladies' Night - S1-E8

Plot hole: The whole timeline of the episode is plagued with inconsistencies: the main timeline supposedly starts after 1 AM, but CG gets arrested for stealing a car in broad daylight. Unless the cops took her for a panoramic 4-5 hours ride of the bay before bringing her to the precinct, it does not add up.

2nd Sep 2019

Wu Assassins (2019)

Ladies' Night - S1-E8

Plot hole: The captain's wife tells him that she's taking his daughter with her, not giving him a chance to even say goodbye. During the episode it turns out that she's angry because he missed lunch with them, and when the Metal Wu texts the boss, it also turns out that all this just happens at 1:11 AM! It does not make much sense: she waited over 12 hours to complain to her husband, and she's driving her kid in the middle of the night.

2nd Sep 2019

Wu Assassins (2019)

Fire Chicken - S1-E3

Plot hole: Unable to locate "the bald chef", Uncle Six orders his men to bring him all the bald chefs of Chinatown. And they do! His goons round them all up, in a single sweep. They fit in a little van. So...in the whole San Francisco Chinatown, over 30,000 inhabitants, there are only literally a dozen bald (or balding or shaven, when you look at who they got) guys working in a kitchen.

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