Corrected entry: The Excelsior detects the incoming shockwave from the exploded Klingon moon Praxis and is hit seconds later. Assuming that the Excelsior in these times isn't operating within Klingon borders (or even the Klingon solar system) and is monitoring the neutral zone light years away, the Excelsior cannot be hit or even be surprised by a shockwave coming from so far away. Gravitational shockwaves or explosions (even huge ones) are not faster than light. It would take years to reach the Excelsior.
Goekhan
12th Oct 2019
Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country (1991)
16th Dec 2020
Constantine (2005)
Corrected entry: Constantine threatens demon Balthazar with the last Rites, so Balthazar goes to heaven where he for sure doesn't want to end. However, if it is so easy and possible even for a demon to go to heaven, why is occult expert Constantine still searching so desperately for the big way out of hell? He only needs to find a catholic priest who gives Constantine the last Rites.
Correction: Constantine mentions to Balthasar afterwards you have to ask to be forgiven before you are accepted into heaven. He needs to believe, it only a bluff. Constantine himself is too stubborn to ask to be forgiven and instead feels the need to buy his way into heaven, he does not believe in the grace of God (who he feels is a hypocrite). The demon can not be sent to heaven just because he was read his last rites, he doesn't believe in the grace of God either.
Constantine himself is too stubborn to ask to be forgiven and would rather go to hell where the devil would so love to meet him? To be honest, that's even a bigger plot hole. The whole story is about Constantine being too selfish and now him being more stubborn than being selfish is the problem? I don't think so.
The problem is he doesn't believe in the grace of God. Thats bigger than his stubbornness. He knows he is going to hell, but he doesn't think that's fair and should be admitted to heaven regardless of his believes. He won't submit to the hypocrisy of God. He doesn't like God, almost as much as he doesn't like the devil. But naturally he doesn't want to go to hell so he tries to buy his way into heaven by fighting the devil's spawns. But he would never bow to God to get to heaven. At the end of the movie he does find a way though, by sacrifice, but an opportunity like that needs to present itself, he can't create one, unlike being forgiven. It's not a plot hole, it's the plot.
I am really upset with "corrections" like this. With stubbornness people could "correct" any movie mistake caused by any protagonists. And it also makes no sense. I think the entry is valid and should be published without any "corrections"! Constantine for sure would believe in the grace of god if he would get some AND he would for sure get some, if he would call a priest which gives him his last Rites. Problem solved. You are creating a problem where no problem is, just pure assumption. And for sure he would bow to god cause he doesn't want to bow to devil even less.
The correction is valid if you ask me. Constantine specifically refers to God as being a kid with an ant farm, and doesn't really believe God cares that much for humanity. At the end of the film, he acknowledges that God does indeed have a plan for everyone and that he had to die twice to finally understand that. That's Constantine's arc. As lionhead said, that is literally the film's plot.
Problem with the correction is, that he escapes hell not because he has lost his stubbornness or because his relationship to god has changed (which has not). He indirectly escapes hell cause he commited suicide to save Angela from being killed by Gabriel. Which wasn't even awarded by god, only the devil was so nice (!) and asked him unnecessarily for a quid-pro-quo wish. And that's not even suicide, it is martyrdom and that alone should buy him a ticket out of hell, plus he saves a woman he loves, plus he keeps the balance in balance. 3 tickets in once, he doesn't even has to trade his soul for the soul of Isabel, he has already done more than enough. There are many plot holes.
You assume those 3 tickets are enough, but they aren't. All of them are him still trying to buy his way into heaven. It's about love for god, not love for another person nor fighting the devil. Plus he was dying anyway. But the self-sacrifice, not his life saved by the devil but the twin sister send to heaven, is the one thing he could do to be admitted.
He already sacrificed himself for one sister, second sister is unnecessary. The devil's him granting a wish is just a feelgood moment for the audience to save the second sister. That's unnecessary and therefore a plot hole.
He didn't sacrifice himself for the first sister. He did it to stop Mammon, not for the love of Angela.
"Stubbornness" is a valid correction when people submit mistakes, especially plot holes, because they think a character should act in a different way than they would. Nothing about Constantine's behave or believe goes against his already established character (which is based on the comics). Having him act the way you want him to could also be seen by some as a plot device and thus a plot hole.
However him committing suicide a second time, is an act of love, maybe not for god but for Angela (so she doesn't gets stabbed by Gabriel). This is martyrdom cause he also prevents Mammon to conquer earth and shows the love for an other human being. The one or the other way he has got the ticket out of hell already. Saving Isabel which he also does, isn't even that much compared what he has already done. So why should god forgive him after saving Isabel but not before (after saving Angela). The devil offering him a wish like a jinn is silly and unnecessary for sure.
He commited suicide the second time to stop Mammon because he knows Satan will show up and wouldn't like it when he finds out his son is trying to take power on Earth. He doesn't do it for love of Angela, nor would God see that as good enough to admit him into heaven (as he would still be buying his way into it). God and Satan are bound to certain rules (according to the "game" they play as mentioned by Constantine) so in exchange for helping Satan, Satan grants him a wish, not realising it is a wish that will admit Constantine into heaven. He is admitted into heaven not because he is forgiven, but because of his self-sacrifice (as Gabriel mentions, and the bible). I think you really need to rewatch both the conversation between Gabriel and Constantine at the church as well as the conversation between Constantine and Satan to understand the reasoning behind it all.
He already self-sacrificed himself for one sister, second sister is unnecessary. The devil's him granting a wish is just a feelgood moment for the audience to save the second sister. That's a plot hole.
Correction: Constantine was bluffing when he threatened Balthazar with the Last Rites. "True contrition" is required as well. This is different than just asking for forgiveness, something Constantine shows not to have. Of course, the Devil heals him in hopes that Constantine will once again damn himself to hell.
8th Dec 2020
Constantine (2005)
Corrected entry: There is no reason for Lucifer to grant John a wish. The devil is neither a nice guy nor a Jinn, and he already got what was "in the pot." Of course Constantine was very helpful to him (commiting suicide to signal the devil that his son is revolting against him), but the devil for sure would just take "the gift", only sarcastically saying "thank you." Realistically it would end with twin-sister Isabel staying in hell and maybe John going to heaven because his suicide rescued Angela from getting stabbed by Gabriel and threw back Mammon in hell, a godly sacrifice.
6th Dec 2020
Constantine (2005)
Corrected entry: When Angela is watching the security video on her laptop of her sister committing suicide, her Sister "Izzy" is saying "Constantine." Near to zero probability that a security video is recording audio, especially on the rooftop of a clinic.
26th Apr 2020
Goldfinger (1964)
Corrected entry: After Pussy Gallore's airplanes spray "Delta-9" onto Fort Knox and the soldiers fake the effects, why does the army let Goldfinger and his nuclear device so far into Fort Knox? Wouldn't it be much safer to intercept him somewhere at the fence? He would be surrounded by thousand of soldiers either way, but without having the opportunity to plant his nuclear device in the building. The army even awaits the signals that the device is armed.
Correction: It was only when the atomic bomb was armed that it could be detected. If the trap was sprung too soon, the bomb might not be captured. It was mentioned in the movie that if the bomb was not captured, it could be used elsewhere in the US. In addition, the bomb was not brought in by ground, but flown in after Fort Knox was captured.
Doesn't make sense too. Pussy Gallore was spraying useless "steam" over Fort Knox, she could've taken the bomb for Bond or the government pretty easily then.
Nope. Not that easy. The bomb was with so many other guards.
29th Mar 2019
Men in Black 3 (2012)
Corrected entry: Why do they have to use the Apollo 11 rocket to put the Arc-net into orbit? The MiB seem to be baffled by the task of putting something into space, but aliens in 1969 seem to regularly land on earth. MiB could easily use some of the alien spaceships to put the Arc-Net into earth orbit. Boris would be defeated then.
Correction: Just because aliens have been landing on Earth regularly and MiB has contact with them, does not mean that 60's MiB have that sort of technology yet. They don't even seem to use their own space travel tech in the first two movies that take place way later.
Probably because the MIB want to keep Arc-Net secret until it is actually deployed in order to prevent a hostile alien from stealing it or sabotaging it.
I know some say MiB-Movies are not necessarily canonical. But there were 2 saucers parking at the New York State Pavilion "the bug" stole later in movie 1. Beside of that I guess MiB could've managed to smuggle the little Arc-Net into a another more discret rocket even years later, giving MiB enough time to protect the Arc-Net plus hunting both Borises down in the meanwhile. I know film-logic and so on, but a bit sloppy writing I guess in many ways.
30th Sep 2018
Upgrade (2018)
Corrected entry: Grey Trace is wearing the superchip STEM, which is revealed at the end to be the evil mastermind behind the whole plot. However STEM ordered his inventor Eron Keen to do things, which got the ball rolling. Organizing the car accident, implanting stem into Grey and so on. Obviously Keen is a henchman of STEM already. However, in the middle of the story STEM is instructing Grey to visit the Superhacker Jamie, who is able to build a rootkit in STEM, locking out Keen. After that STEM is even more powerful and capable of controlling Grey completely. But why didn't STEM order his genius Keen to "unlock" everything in the STEM-chip in the first place? Codes were already known to STEM because he dictated them to Grey. The risky detour visiting Superhacker Jamie, even STEM being deactivated by Keen while getting hunted by Fisk and his men, is extremely dangerous for STEM (who doesn't want to get killed obviously) and on many levels very needless from STEM's point of view. STEM already controls Keen, instructs Fisk too and easily could order Keen to reprogram him and put him into Grey (easy binary codes already known to STEM). The story could end after 20 minutes.
Correction: You're coming at this from an angle that Keen is completely under stem's control... However that appears to not be the case. He does manipulate Keen and orchestrates this whole thing, but it's obvious he keeps things from Keen and has secrets from him as well. Like the fact he was going to have Gray turn on Keen and kill him. stem orchestrated the visit to the superhacker to have the last of Keen's control over him cut off so he could be fully free. Cause he may have been manipulation Keen from the get go, but that doesn't mean Keen couldn't have decided to pull the plug at any point if he thought things were getting out of control. Keen loves his creation, i.e. loves stem like a father would a son and would want to try and see it blossom, but he didn't know the full extent of stem's plan. He was ready to shut stem down after seeing him venture into more dangerous situations. And it's likely that stem was playing Keen as hard as he was playing Gray and leading him on thinking something else was going on when it wasn't. He used the situation with the bar and forcing Keen's hand to start shutting him down to give Gray the motivation he needed to seek out the Superhacker so he wouldn't lose his abilities and could still chase revenge for his wife. It was a risky move on stem's part, but it was the only way he could get what he wanted by giving Gray a reason to go to the hacker, and forcing Keen's hand into the attempted shutdown so he could have it counteracted. Keen is even seen crying sitting there at the end showing that the screen says Subject Lost or similar. Though it's unclear if he's crying because he realises he's lost control of his creation... or if he actually thinks he destroyed stem at that point but doesn't know about the hack. Either way, stem did what he had to to get what he wanted in the end.
I already assumed that someone would write something like that. However there are still needless detours. For example after stem gained full control over Grey (after the Hack) they still "visit" and kill Fisk instead going directly to Keen and kill him. And if Keen isn't fully involved in stems plans, why does he agree to kill Grey's wife? Why should Keen agree to a murder someone if there is no scientific gain? If stem instructed the killing then Keen should get very suspicious and stop the experiment. If Keen ordered it, then it is proof that Keen was already a puppet of stem from the beginning. And why is Keen so surprised that stem is talking to Grey? stem already talked to Keen instructing him to stage the car incident and so on.
As far as going after Fisk, that was a loose end that stem couldn't just let walk around. Fisk was the leader of the group that attacked Grey and his wife, and specifically the one who pulled the trigger killing the wife. First rule of assassination, kill the assassin. And as far as Keen, again we don't see the story that stem has been feeding to him or really see Keen's side of the story. It's apparent that Keen has some mental challenges like Autism but is a protege with his inventions and understanding of electronics. stem deceived and led Grey along for the whole ride like a mastermind tricking Grey into doing everything that stem wanted him to do. He probably did the same thing to Keen. And with Keen having some mental issues, possibly even struggling with some concepts or right and wrong and even possibly having some sociopath tendencies, he could have agreed to parts of the plan that stem had told him and wanted to see the potential that stem could be in a person, but unaware that stem was going to turn on him or try to sever his control completely. Judging by the way Keen reacted to Grey venturing out to solve his wife's murder, Keen is much more interested in making sure his product isn't discovered doing things that could lead to him getting shut down. He willingly hires a private surgeon team to experiment on a living person with his product so that he could take shortcuts and even talked about doing it so that he wouldn't have to wait years or even decades to be able to test stem on a living person. So his scientific gain is that Grey is HIS prototype and thinks that stem is going along with his plan just like Grey thinks that stem is going along with his... when it's actually stem pulling the strings for both Grey and Keen. And as far as his surprise about stem talking to Grey, it's obvious that stem keeps secrets from Grey and may not have been aware that stem would have had the ability to communicate with Grey by vibrating his ear drum the way he does. Which would further indicate that he wouldn't exactly know that stem is leading Grey to do his actions and thinks that Grey is going rogue when he goes to the bar and starts shutting him down. It's very likely that Keen believes that the part of stem controlling his company is the true AI and doesn't realise that stem has seeded himself into Grey so deeply. stem is deceptive and calculating, and has been with Keen long enough to know exactly what lies to say and things to do to deceive him and manipulate him into doing exactly what he wants. All the characters in this film involved with it, from Grey, to Keen to the soldiers and Fisk are all chess pieces with stem playing both sides of the board.
9th Jun 2018
Star Trek: The Motion Picture (1979)
Corrected entry: V'Ger considers humanoids controlling the Enterprise as an infection, unnecessary like a virus. On the other hand Spock finds out that V'Ger has travelled the whole universe searching for answers. Why doesn't V'Ger know that biological units are building and commanding spaceships? V'Ger must have already met Breen, Hirogen, and thousand other biological astronauts.
Correction: V'Ger does know this, but still considers humans (or carbon units) to be inferior, even to the technology that they created. As far as other species, we do not know what V'Ger did to them.
If a virus told you that humans were created by viruses and in fact are controlled by them, you would find it hard to believe, too.
Ilia as the drone of V'Ger is asking what for the humans are needed on the enterprise. V'Ger doesn't seem to know the concept of biological units in space ships or has never wondered before even it must've seen this scenario many thousand times in every quadrant of the galaxy. OK V'Ger is a "child", but even the dumbest child could connect the lines I guess.
31st Mar 2018
Doctor Strange (2016)
Corrected entry: Why didn't Kaecilius steal the infinity stone at the beginning of the movie? He was a student at Kamatage for a long time. He should know how powerful it is and where to find it. I mean would be easy to take it, because the stone isn't secured at all. It is just lying around on a platform in another room.
Correction: Obtaining the Time Stone is not his goal, and much like Baron Mordo, he's probably well aware of how destructive the Time Stone can be if its power is abused.
Not a very good correction. Kaecilius' goal is to obtain as much power as he can gets. Just stealing a side of a book compared to the powers of a Time Stone is very modest for a villain. The detail that the Time Stone is dangerous wouldn't be problem for him at all. Destruction is his business for his master Dormammu.
Kaecilius' ultimate goal is to live forever, which he hopes to achieve by becoming a follower of Dormmamu and living in the Dark Dimension. The Time Stone could grant him the same wish, but it would require him to live in a continuous loop or to perpetually oscillate time back and forth. Choosing Dormmamu is simply a more practical solution for him.
24th Mar 2018
Black Mirror (2011)
Corrected entry: The whole blackmailing episode is based on Kenny watching illegal underage videos. But "they" recorded Kenny with his own webcam, so how would they know what kind of material he was watching? Sure, they can also record his screen using the virus on the notebook, but then they would have to compose both streamings in a single video, and that would be easily deniable. How do they want to prove he was actually watching that illegal stuff and not something which was added in editing?
Correction: You don't need a record a screen to prove that a computer was accessing illegal content. They would have his internet history, names of files and the IP address of his computer, along with the video of him. When this information was passed to the police, they would seize the computer (shown at the end of the episode) and subsequently find the files he had accessed. Additionally, they don't need to send all of this to Kenny, he just has to believe that they have the evidence. That would be enough for him to obey them. Even if the evidence regarding his online activity is not enough for him to be convicted, there is also a video of him murdering a man.
18th Feb 2018
Get Out (2017)
Corrected entry: The Armitage family transplants the brains of white people into the bodies of black people. But why is it then, that the black people sometimes try to "break through" their imprisonment? If their brains are fully transplanted then their whole personality should be completely "white" or destroyed. Where does this inner fighting come from?
Correction: They explained this in the film. "Transplantation. Well, partially. The piece of your brain connected to your nervous system needs to stay put, keeping those intricate connections intact. So you won't be gone. At least not completely. A sliver of you will still be in there somewhere. Limited consciousness. You'll be able to see and hear what your body is doing, but your existence will be as a passenger. An audience. You will live in... the Sunken Place."
Then it is a factual error, cause from the neurological point of view this is nonsense. The nervous system has nothing to do with the consciousness.
The film (or the correction) never said the nervous system controls consciousness. It's part of the brain attached to the nervous system that controls consciousness, such as the the cerebral cortex, or even the basal ganglia. However, there's never been a human brain transplant, or even a partial human brain transplant, so there's no way to claim factual errors as it's all speculation.
1st Jan 2018
Star Trek: First Contact (1996)
Corrected entry: The fact that Picard did not share his precious Anti-Borg tactics with federation long before, costs Federation a lot of ships and lives. Such precious knowledge should've been added long before to the Federation databases. Every single captain of the Federation should already be well trained with these new "Picard Maneuvers." I mean what if Picard had a heart attack a year before the Borg battle? Then earth would be lost just because Picard is too lazy to share vital information. He only shares that important information when battles begin?
Correction: Picard could hear the Borg. As Data stated, the coordinates Picard entered were not a vital system, but on this cube allowed for a chain reaction to occur. Because Picard could hear the Borg he was able to determine this weakness and take advantage of it. Picard had already given all the information he had to the Federation. This was used to begin producing warships such as the Defiant Class.
8th Jan 2014
Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home (1986)
Corrected entry: In the last quarter of the movie Kirk is beaming on board the "bird of prey" and Doc Gillian is clasping him so she beams on board too. She wants to travel into the future and tricks Kirk out. So long so good, but why is Kirk beaming on board in the first place? One minute earlier the sick Checkov and 3 other crew members walked in using the ship's ramp. Did they close the ramp knowing that Kirk is still standing outside? And the trick with clasping Kirk is OK, but they could just as easily beam her out again or kick her out using the ramp.
Correction: It's plausible that they started to close the ramp as they boarded the ship, presuming Kirk was walking right behind them & wasn't going to stop to talk to Dr Gillian. It's also plausible that Kirk, being distracted by Gillian's insistence to come aboard, grabbed his communicator to beam up since that was 2nd nature for him. Or he simply didn't want to walk up the ramp, fearing she'd just follow him in. Then he underestimated her leaping onto him during a beam up. As for them just beaming her back to the park, they would wait for Kirk's order, but he gave in & decided she would be beneficial to them if she stayed aboard, thus never giving the order.
Correction: There's any number of reasons the ramp could've been down (loading things for the aquarium) but I always took it as he stayed behind to say goodbye and that they wouldn't want the ramp open for too long in broad daylight, so he beamed up. I also took it that when she grabbed on that was showing she had feelings for him as well and that's why he didn't kick her out.
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Correction: It's described as a "subspace shockwave" so by Star Trek parlance this is some type of disturbance that can indeed travel faster than light.
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