Dark Phoenix

Dark Phoenix (2019)

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Suggested correction: Jean used her full psychic powers in the previous film, not the Phoenix Force. Even without the Phoenix Force she was an incredibly powerful, Omega Level mutant.

The Phoenix firebird is literally shown to be emerging from Jean's body when she kills Apocalypse. She can't both have the Phoenix firebird already within her and then somehow also have it invade her body in this film. The mistake is valid, and I would argue it should be listed as a plot hole more than a continuity error.

Phaneron

Plot hole: There are two timelines in the X-Men franchise - the original films and the prequels, up until Days of Future past, which alters the future, and at the end reveals that Jean Grey, Professor X and Cyclops are all alive, rather than dying as they did in X-Men 3. The "new" timeline is then followed in Apocalypse and this movie, giving them a bit of leeway to make changes, much like the new Star Trek movies. Only problem is...Jean Grey dies in this movie! So no way her older self can be around in DoFP.

Jon Sandys

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Suggested correction: I think you might have missed the final shot in the movie, when the camera pans up from Charles and Erik playing chess and the Phoenix firebird is shown flying across the sky/stratosphere, implying that, much like the Phoenix's legendary namesake, Jean had risen from the ashes so to speak. There is precedent for this in the comics, plus there were supposed to be more X-Men movies after this one until the Disney/Fox merger happened.

Phaneron

Yes, but she even said she evolved beyond earth, so that is basically saying that she died. Or she isn't on earth anymore.

This film takes place 30 years before the final scene in Days of Future Past. Anything could have happened during that time in which Jean Grey regained her humanity and returned to Earth. The force is called the Phoenix for a reason.

Phaneron

Suggested correction: Bryan Singer confirmed that the end of Days of Future Past with Jean Grey being alive is one of many timelines, there are more than 2 timelines in this universe, meaning that despite all the X-Men being alive in the future at the of Days of Future Past, they can still all die in other movies like in Logan and Dark Phoenix.

Plot hole: The shapeshifting aliens without even flinching take full barrages of M4A1 carbines point blank, absorbing in full all the damage, but somehow they can be kicked and punched and get hurt and stopped by scraps of metal, knives, whips, Beast clawing at them, and even better, the non-superpowered Nightcrawler snaps the neck of one of them.

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Suggested correction: None of them are killed or actually harmed by any of the attacks as later shown when they just get up again. They have stolen human bodies and those bodies still react like a real human body does, they just take some time to regenerate.

lionhead

Without mentioning the D'baris from the comics who don't steal bodies but just pose as humans, in this movie they are shown having their own body to begin with, with an ability to assimilate humans with their memories and appearances: it's doubtful they'd have a spine to snap. Their reactions are just all over the place though: they take virtually no time to regenerate full barrages of automatic weapons, staying all the time on their feet not even flinching and showing no pain (also, being equipped with superhuman strength, since they toss people all the way from one end of the train wagon to the other with one hand). They show no reaction to bullets maiming them, but if it's a main character taking a swing, then it's a hit - even if non lethal. The main villain reacts to no bullets but when Nightcrawler was cutting her up she swayed wildly under his every strike, just as an example. I get it that it's choreographic, but it just makes no sense.

Sammo

The turret shot bullets through them and they quickly healed.

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Suggested correction: Jean used her full psychic powers in the previous film, not the Phoenix Force. Even without the Phoenix Force she was an incredibly powerful, Omega Level mutant.

The Phoenix firebird is literally shown to be emerging from Jean's body when she kills Apocalypse. She can't both have the Phoenix firebird already within her and then somehow also have it invade her body in this film. The mistake is valid, and I would argue it should be listed as a plot hole more than a continuity error.

Phaneron

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Trivia: The third act was completely changed after reshoots. The final battle originally took place in space, and was then relocated to a train.

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Answer: Your guess is correct. Lawrence stated she was done with the franchise after "X-Men: Apocalypse." She jokingly told Simon Kinberg she would return for this film if he directed it, and to her surprise, he was serious about it and held her to it. Fans weren't very keen on her appearances either, because she was definitely phoning it in for the third film, so that may have factored into killing her off early as well.

Phaneron

More than one actress had played Mystique. Just because Jennifer Lawrence did not want to continue playing that role is not a reason the character would be killed off. They could easily recast another notable actress in the part. I would not be surprised if Mystique is miraculously "resurrected" in a future X-Men film with a new actress.

raywest

Aside from Deadpool, any new X-Men film would be a complete overhaul of the franchise since the characters will be part of the MCU now. You're not wrong about an actor wanting out to not really be a reason to kill off a character, but it doesn't preclude them from doing so either. They might have decided it wouldn't be worth the hassle of recasting the role with all the negative baggage that would come with it.

Phaneron

Here are some candidates I think could do it: Amanda Seyfried, Shailene Woodley, Chloe Grace Moretz. Heck maybe even Milla Jovovich-Anderson should be given an audition, what say you guys?

Rob245

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