Captain Marvel

Captain Marvel (2019)

29 corrections since 14 Mar '19, 00:00

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Plot hole: The closest jump point to "C-53" aka Earth is 22 hours, a plot device needed for the Kree to catch up with Vers only for the third act. Yon-Rogg does not tell Ronan anything about the target (Earth), but Ronan still when called shows up with his fleet of battleships in mere minutes.

Sammo

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Suggested correction: We don't hear Yon-Rogg telling Ronan anything about the target but it doesn't mean it hasn't happened. We do see them doing many things (eg eating) but we can assume it takes place). It's reasonable to assume they've had a conversation about where they're going.

Corrected entry: In the scenes set in June of 1995, "Vers" uses a Windows 95 computer to search the internet via dial-up. Windows 95 wasn't released until August 24, 1995, two months after those scenes were set.

Correction: A beta version of Windows 95 (probably build 347) was released before June, when this takes place. They could be using that. It included MSN, for internet access.

lionhead

Good guess. That preview version was available for $19.95 in the U.S.

FleetCommand

I think that's a reach - especially back then beta versions were much harder to come by - you couldn't just download it, you'd have to apply and receive a CD or floppies. She's in an internet cafe if memory serves, and why would they go to the hassle of installing a beta OS which most people would never have used before, and which would run the risk of having bugs, etc.?

Jon Sandys

Windows 95 had one of the most expensive advertisements and launch programs to this date. (Second to Windows 8's.) Microsoft had special personnel known as Evangelists who went to potential customers encouraging them to test Windows 95 and give feedback. They didn't send the 3.5" diskettes with post; the Evangelists delivered them personally. Microsoft didn't become a software giant by sitting on its behind, waiting for customers.

FleetCommand

Correction: The month is never specified in the film.

True Lies was released on home video on July 15th - any cardboard standee in a Blockbuster would be for an upcoming or very recent release. By late August something else would have replaced it.

Jon Sandys

Not if it was a popular rental, then they would keep promoting it.

ctown28

When they're looking at the black box recording, there's a calendar on the wall that reads June.

Brian Katcher

Correction: The recycle bin icon on the desktop is an oval shape which was first introduced in Windows ME, which wasn't released until 14th September 2000.

The corrected entry mentions a scene searching the internet via dial-up; the computer in that scene has indeed Windows 95 with a square-shaped bin. Since then this entry has kinda been more about the plausibility of Windows 95 in a public internet cafe in June than anything else. There's a separate entry about the scene when they use a totally different computer, the one at her friend's house, which has the bin you mention and is a ME edition.

Sammo

It's not, it's the rectangular bin.

Factual error: Vers hit Earth at night in California. Dawn comes, and the Skrulls are coming out of the surf with the sun low on the horizon. The sun rises in the east, not over the ocean.

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Suggested correction: There are west-facing bays in California.

That would still make Earth's rotation in reverse. West-facing bays always feature sunsets, not sunrises as the OP notes.

A "West-facing bay" means the bay (body of water) faces the west. Those standing on the shore looking out into the bay would then be facing East.

Bishop73

I'm guessing the person that submitted the correction meant to say "east-facing bays."

Phaneron

Plot hole: When Vers arrives at the bar, Nick Fury is already there. She went straight to the bar after stealing the bike, while Fury needed still to learn about the theft, link it to the case, with investigations taking place to maybe (only possibility that would not depend on the vehicle being reported) figure out that Pancho's was the destination from examining the search history of the browser. Fury went there by car. His boss also explicitly says to work on the case alone. Amazing he could be there with such timing.

Sammo

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Suggested correction: Vers probably got lost and had to wander around to find the place.

I can't realistically say it's impossible (it is not shown, after all), but nothing in the movie implies it, and it's the exact opposite. She is shown, driving, fast, on the Sierra Highway, which is where the bar is. Not stopping to ask for directions or at crossroads (something it takes 1 second of movie to show). In perfect Star Trek tradition she can speak the language, she reads the maps just fine, in fact she already looked the place up on the map, that was next to her and she already knew how to use without help, before taking off on her fast bike not hindered by traffic. And again, the head start she has is huge since Fury can begin investigating only once he hears about the stolen bike. Fury is at his HQ and a long time seems to have passed, since he is patched up and a whole autopsy has been done. Vers started searching right away.

Sammo

Factual error: Vers is on the 'phone' with her Kree crew from a public phone on the outside of a club with plenty of posters appropriate for the time period (Foo Fighters @The Fillmore, REM's tour for Monster, etc) but is also plastered with posters for "Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness", a Smashing Pumpkins album which came out at the end of October of 1995, months later than when the movie supposedly takes place (June). (00:25:50)

Sammo

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Suggested correction: The poster is a promo. Previous to the album's release.

The album was still being recorded as of August of that year.

Sammo

Factual error: When Minerva mistakenly picks up a NERF gun to shoot Carol, the blaster she picks up is a Sharpshooter II, released in 1995. The occupants of the station were supposed to have been stranded there for six years and could not logically have obtained this item.

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Suggested correction: We do not know that they were stranded on the station. They would have had to eat after Mar-Vell's sudden death. She could have had contingency plans in place to help them survive or others could have helped.

DetectiveGadget85

Stupidity: Mar-Vell's laboratory is a spaceship that the captions identify as an imperial cruiser, not exactly the kind of thing that can go missing unnoticed. Since the Kree were so determined in finding Mar-Vell's work and are so attached to it that they keep Carol around, how is it possible that in 1989 or ever since they haven't looked for her cruiser? Carol manages to uncloak it without using any secret code (that she wouldn't know since Mar-Vell told her about the whole alien thing just barely before dying and was not privy to any security measure).

Sammo

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Suggested correction: Decloaking the ship still necessitated knowing its location. The Kree didn't know where it was, so couldn't decloak it.

But they don't even look for it. He literally goes "oh, well, the engine is gone, let's go home", without any attempt to look for Mar-Vell's project or, again, the big cruiser thingy. Something so important, and yet the empire does not care about it to probe around for it.

Sammo

In your other entry you suggest Ronan doesn't even know about Mar-Vell's project. More likely he doesn't care, since he is a fanatic who worships the old ways. Its logical he will ignore it, especially when his interests have been turned towards Carol flying around blasting through his ships. Which he later forgets for whatever reason as well.

lionhead

No, no, I am referring to Yon-Rogg in the past, and the empire as a whole: they are after whatever work Mar-Vell was doing, to the point of keeping around with a very flawed brainwashing plan an incredibly dangerous being created with that technology, but don't look for her ship or evidence of her work, at all. 6 years with the knowledge that somewhere around (or on) Earth there's the key to unlimited destroying power and/or a hyperfast engine, and everyone is like "Meh, whatever" for no reason.

Sammo

Stupidity: Carol enters the Imperial Cruiser that doubles as a secret laboratory, uncloaking it. She does not cloak it back, so the villains just find it immediately. But blood-thirsty Ronan, despite having multiple ships, does not target it or acknowledge it, despite fully knowing that Earth has no defenses and is not a threat, while a Kree vessel would necessitate countermeasures.

Sammo

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Suggested correction: The Kree wanted what was on the ship. Destroying it would not achieve their goals. Additionally, since Carol was able to decloak it using her suit, so could any other Kree soldiers.

If to decloak it they need to know the location, it had to be visible to begin with? Going by the movie, Ronan has not even been informed about Mar-Vell's project. If the movie still remembers there is any (no indication is given), he suddenly finds a ship not part of his fleet and does not question it, simply going by what the plot wants him to do. Which, actually, could be fully intentional, since he obviously just cares about blowing stuff up and does not care even if any of his fellow Krees is still on the planet (not that the movie implies it, as movies normally would, but he's such a one-note character that it could be possible).

Sammo

Earth doesn't have defenses and is not a threat, the Kree cruiser is obviously not part of Earth's defenses but is one of their own. He just didn't realise it is a target instead. Besides, Kree are on board, why would he target it?

lionhead

That's exactly the point of what I originally said: Earth is not a threat, but he, fresh off his jump, right away gets in bombing mode without checking where the other Krees are (Yon-Rogg is on Earth at that exact moment, right the spot he is dropping the bombs at, even!) or batting an eye at the cruiser that happens to be already there, not target it but ask "what is going on here?", hail them or receive a report about the situation and where he is supposed to blow his load (would have been a single line of dialogue, here it seems an issue entirely ignored because plot moves from A to B): as a member of the military he is supposed to coordinate his attacks (like he did earlier on the first meeting with the Skrulls, where he bombed a specific part of the planet). Here all his instructions have been "Come at once, Earth has been infiltrated!", but he launches the bombs right away, seconds after jumping close to Earth.

Sammo

Plot hole: Fury comments on Vers' lack of weapon and issues radio messages about her, referring to her as a single 'suspect' during the whole chase, ignoring entirely the fact that a sniper shot him with a futuristic weapon as well. In fact, the weapon is a complete non sequitur and random element; we saw the Skrull emerge from the sea, unarmed and no Skrull weapon is shown in the rest of the movie. And the sniper runs away without it, presumably leaving the weapon or remains of it for SHIELD to study (and do nothing with it for the next decade).

Sammo

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Suggested correction: They haven't even seen the other suspect and can only chase 1 person at a time, he only radios it in once. The weapon is an arm weapon that disappears under the cloak of the human form.

lionhead

The weapon is a rifle, (he looks like he is using two hands when he uses it, check out at 29:14) that he did not have to begin with, and at no point in the movie Skrulls seem to be able to conceal weapons in their suits - if they were, ironically enough the 'identification' Carol jokingly brings later to Fury blasting the juke-box would be wrong. It's unnacounted before and after the incident. As for the first part, I can't agree on the fact that they haven't seen the other suspect: Fury turns around before the blasts is fired and at least they know they were shot at from an unknown perp, even more reason to instantly radio about it. The whole dynamic of the scene brings instantly the sole focus on Vers (understandably from a movie logic perspective, but I am here to nitpick how unnatural it is), to the point that he asks 'Rook' if he has seen her weapon, as if being shot at with energy blasts from rooftops were normal, and he does not say anything about the other person.

Sammo

They may not show concealing their weapons that way but they do show the ability to hide various large objects including cattle prods under their disguises without effort (like in the fight against the Kree earlier). Their camouflage ability is highly sophisticated. It won't be difficult to conceal any weapon. As for the part about the sniper never being mentioned, you have a point but I question if it's really a "plot hole" rather than a simple character error. Fury focuses on Carol, he could be doing that for a lot of reasons, the best one I can come up with is that is the suspect they have a face on and fired a powerfull blast without a weapon. Logical they are interested in her, enough to make sure she doesn't get away from them.

lionhead

Ehh, they were concealing the weapons under big cloaks, not making them appear out of thin air around their hands. When they land on Earth they are with just their normal suits with no camo. I think that if they had the power to do that sort of trick with their guns it would have been set up earlier, fighting against Carol everyone either starts with a weapon or does not, nobody is shown summoning a weapon out of the suit. I agree on the matter of Fury's behaviour being more accurately a character error, considering that other meaningful members of his team are Skrulls at that point. Distinctions can be blurry especially when I don't break down a topic focused on a single event in the movie ("Skrull sniping with unexplained weapon nobody seems to care about") into 2-3 different separate submissions to the website.

Sammo

The cloaks were part of the camouflage. At one point they are all wearing cloaks, the next they are not and are carrying weapons. If they can do that to conceal weapons, they can do a lot more.

lionhead

Continuity mistake: As Vers is about to punch the person dressed like the Skrull, a woman in a flowery pantsuit is visible in the background, behind him. Next shot and she is walking behind Vers making a rather conspicuous horrified facepalm, and coming from the wrong direction. (00:33:50)

Sammo

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Trivia: The first Marvel film released after Stan Lee's death. In tribute, the usual opening ident, which has the comic book characters in the Marvel Studios logo, instead shows multiple images of Stan Lee.

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