Back to the Future Part II

Corrected entry: We all know that Old Biff stole the time-machine, went back to 1955 and gave the book to himself. He also returned the time-machine to Marty and Doc. WHY? He actually gave them the ability to restore the past. Why didn't Old Biff just keep the time-machine?

Correction: Biff doesn't know how time travel works. Presumably, he assumed that if he were to go back to the future, he'd end up in the alternate future he had just created (which would make sense) and become the 'rich' Biff.

Correction: Character choices are not mistakes.

oldbaldyone

Correction: Doc's clearly done a lot of research into Marty's family, knowing what happens to them, who his kids are, etc. Knowing where he lives would be part of that.

Correction: He'd been there once before taking Marty to the future. When hearing about Marty McFly. Jr, he could have done a background search on him, including age, phone number, and address.

Corrected entry: In 2015 when the police get 1985 Jennifer to her home it's daylight, and they say "it's gonna be night time when we get there" but if they are flying that trip should be only a few minutes.

ozwal13

Correction: Doc, Marty, and Jennifer arrived in 2015 at 4:29 PM, already later in the afternoon. Doc also mentions that the skyway was jammed, meaning it would take flying cars longer than normal to arrive at their destinations. It's perfectly plausible that it could be dusk/dark by the time the police get 1985 Jennifer to her "future" home.

Corrected entry: After Marty burns the sports almanac, it is only burning for a few moments before it begins to pour rain. There was not enough time to burn the whole book, considering he started the fire with some cheap matches and no gas or lighter fluid to make it burn faster. Some of the pages may have survived. There would have been water damage from the rain on the remaining pages for sure, but a few pages may have still survived and have been legible enough for a passerby (or maybe even the western union guy) to be able to read and use to make bets.

calidude

Correction: Yes, but since Marty and Doc see the timeline change in response, it was enough to do the job.

Grumpy Scot

Corrected entry: At the end of BTTF, Doc, Marty and Jennifer take off for the future. In BTTF2, they arrive 30 years later and see themselves. Impossible! They would have been inside the time machine (as far as those left behind are concerned) for 30 years. Marty and Jennifer were gone from 1985 to 2015 as far as he and everyone else knows. I can prove this by using the first movie. When Einstein goes into the future one minute, he was gone for a minute as far as Doc and Marty were concerned, even though the trip was instantaneous to Einstein.

Correction: Wrong - the reason Einstein is completely gone for that minute is because he never goes back to the time he left. While Marty, etc. go 30 years into the future, they will eventually go back to 1985 and live the rest of their lives, therefore he can exist in the future.

The whole point and premise of BTTF is that Time is very surely linear, such that altering the past changes the future in such a way that time travellers can even erase themselves from existence. The BTTF story is not about alternate timelines, it's about the pitfalls of travelling in linear Time.

Charles Austin Miller

Corrected entry: When the "old Biff" steals the time machine in 2015, as Doc and Marty attempt to retrieve Jennifer, it shouldn't be possible for Biff to return to the world that exists around him, as he gets out of the car back in 2015. Doc, Marty, Jennifer, and the world around them ALL should no longer exist, while still trying to escape from 2015. An alternate time line should have been created the moment "old Biff" left 1955. (Thus, Doc's explanation to Marty via the chalkboard explaining an "Alternate Reality"). This all started in 1985, and one result of old Biff's ventures, we learn that Doc is committed to an institution and couldn't even invent, or at least complete, the time machine by October 26th, 1985, which is the starting date of the initial film.

BLuRD

Correction: It is pointed out in all 3 films that the time lines aren't altered immediately (e.g. In the first film, Marty and his siblings fade out of the photograph that he holds, rather than just simply disappear). Just because Doc didn't invent the time machine doesn't mean someone else didn't instead (it is possible Marty did it himself using Doc's notes).

Andy Benham 6979

Corrected entry: When Old Biff hands Young Biff the Almanac, the book passes through the film split (the vertical bar that divides the windshield) perfectly because it was on a motorized rig. But the stand-in for Old Biff didn't hold his arm at the right height, so Old Biff's arm disappears into the bar that runs down the middle of the window while the book floats across to Young Biff.

Correction: No it doesn't. The arm is below the windshield, that is why it can't be seen. The tip of the hand is perfectly visible, with no missing parts.

Sacha Premium member

Corrected entry: In the scene where Doc lands the DeLorean in pouring rain in 2015, after a while the rain stops, and it is sunny and you can see the clock tower is in full light when Marty looks at the newspaper. But when Marty, after putting on his new clothes, walks on the street, it is cloudy again.

Correction: As the submitter mentions the rain stops suddenly and it's sunny. Apparently there are some rapidly-moving clouds in the area; altogether possible for it to be overcast again within a few seconds.

BocaDavie Premium member

Corrected entry: When Marty and Doc successfully save Marty's son from going to prison in 2015, the USA Today headline spontaneously changes while Marty holds it. If this is possible, then, when Biff steals the DeLorean to deliver the almanac to his younger self, Marty and Doc's memories would be instantly replaced by those of the alternate 1985 - which would mean that Marty would not be baffled by bars on his windows or locks on his gate when he arrives back home there. In fact, they wouldn't have returned to that house at all.

Correction: Throughout the course of the three films physical objects change but Doc and Marty retain the bulk of their memories from alternate time lines, apparently protected from time line changes. Since it's all science fiction we'll have to assume it works the way it is shown in the film.

BocaDavie Premium member

I would add that there seems to be a proportional relation between the historical event being altered and when the change takes root. Thirty years between alteration and changed result seems to take nearly a week. The event of the arrest and trial is only a day (two at most) in the future. Thus, presto-changeo.

Corrected entry: When Marty goes to the new 1985 and goes into the house he thinks is his, a Dirty Dancing poster can be seen on the girl's bedroom wall. Dirty Dancing was not released until 1987.

Correction: This is a very altered version of 1985, so it doesn't have to conform to the original timestream. For instance, Biff may now be responsible for providing the funding that gets the movie made earlier.

JC Fernandez

Corrected entry: How did 2015 Biff know how to operate the time machine well enough to get himself back to see 1955 Biff? He learns about the existence of the time machine from an overheard conversation, which does not include any details of how to set the time circuits nor the requirement to accelerate the car to 88 mph in order to start the time jump.

Correction: This is a question, not a mistake. Given that the time circuits are not that complicated (it's a keypad with a display clearly marked DESTINATION) and that Biff also saw the time machine in use in 1985, it might not have taken him very long to figure out: 1. Punch in numbers and 2. Go fast. Not that he needed a short amount of time to figure out. This is a time machine, after all. He could have stolen the Delorean and then spent weeks figuring it out, with Doc and Marty none the wiser as long as he returned it to a time moments after he stole it. Not to mention that Doc may have left materials (like the videotape of the Delorean's test run from the first film) in the car that could have facilitated Biff's figuring it out.

JC Fernandez

Corrected entry: After Marty gets a crack shot on wild gunman, the screen is black. But when you see the arcade machine, just before Marty Jr. says, "Griff, guys, hey," you see the screen is on.

DeathGawd

Correction: There are twenty seconds between the two shots in question. The 30+-year-old machine could simply have been resetting itself after Marty had scored his "crack shot."

JC Fernandez

Corrected entry: Doc puts Jennifer to sleep because she was asking too many questions about her future, and according to him, no-one should know too much about their future. But when they have landed in 2015, Doc doesn't see anything wrong with telling Marty, at length, what is going to happen to Marty in his future.

Correction: Character decision, not a movie mistake. Marty is already completely informed about the time machine. Doc is taking a calculated risk that the 1985 Marty can fix this one event (that ruins his kid's lives) without severely disrupting the existing time line (from 1985 to 2015). Doc does not disclose any information to Marty about his future, only about the future of Marty's kids. Putting Jennifer to sleep with the hopes of making her think it was all a dream would ensure that she does nothing to disrupt the time line.

BocaDavie Premium member

Corrected entry: In Back to the Future 1 after Marty goes to 1955, you see a sign that says "Hill Valley 2 Miles". Later in the movie, Marty talks to George and Lorraine then walks out the door. The next scene you see Marty with Doc in his 1985 explaining that he needed to change his clothes, and than there is the whole sequence where Marty goes back to 1985. In 1955, in Back to the Future 2, Marty is standing outside the gym when Biff approaches him. Marty is knocked down by his earlier self, and Biff steals the Almanac. Then Marty steals the Almanac, burns it, sees Doc get struck by lightning, receives the telaeraph, runs 2 miles back to Hill Valley, just to meet Doc after his previous self goes back to 1985. How is it possible for on Marty to do the thing previously stated, while the other one dresses and drives to the Clock Tower, taking up the same amount of time?

Correction: You explained the nit yourself. We don't know how long it took for Marty to change into his 1985 clothes in Part 1... we only know that according to Doc, Marty was late in meeting him. Marty may have gone back to Doc's house to get his clothes, adding some time.

JC Fernandez

Corrected entry: When 1985 Marty first puts on the "future jacket," the sleeves are really long (can't see his hands or anything), but after Doc comes up (and before he pushes the button to make it fit) you can see Marty's fingertips, and the jacket only goes up a short bit.

Correction: Marty is holding the sleeves up. That's why you see his fingers.

Corrected entry: In the Cafe 80's scene, when the future Marty has ordered a Pepsi and Griff walks in, the Pepsi bottle changes from in his hands to on the counter several times between shots.

Correction: He is holding it the entire time. There are other bottles on the counter.

Corrected entry: The two theories of time travel displayed in the Back to the Future series seem to conflict with each other. In the first movie, Marty changes history to create a future where he was never born, and as a result he begins to fade out of existence. In the second movie, Biff changes history to create a future where Marty is away at boarding school, but rather than fading into his new timeline, Marty stays exactly the same. There are now two Martys, one from 1985 (Marty 1) and one from 1985A (Marty 2). If that's the case, then Marty should have stayed exactly the same in the first movie (Marty 1) and returned to an alternate universe where his other self (Marty 2) was never born.

Correction: The first movie also establishes that the irreversible changes in the timeline are not instantaneous. Marty was in 1955 for a week before he started fading away. He was only in 1985A for a few hours.

JC Fernandez

Corrected entry: When Marty is talking to the Doc when he is in the back of Biff's car, it shows the present Doc with the past Doc's hair (i.e. the actor has the wrong wig on). It cuts back to Marty, then back to the Doc, where he still has the past Doc's hair. When it cuts back to the Doc a third time, he has the present Doc's hairstyle. (01:09:30)

Correction: No such thing. First, since the only two scenes Christopher Lloyd played "young Doc" (when "old Doc" runs into him and when Marty runs around the corner) both took place at the clock tower at night, there would be no reason for the actor to wear the wrong wig. Secondly, "young Doc" has wavy, blond hair while "old Doc" has white hair. The Doc talking to Marty on the walkie not only has white hair, it's the same white hair. The only difference in the shots you're mentioning is that the wind is blowing in the third of the shots.

JC Fernandez

Corrected entry: During the scene where Marty has to duck and move past the car with his other self and Lorraine inside the car, he hears his other self ask Lorraine if she smoked too, in which she replied, "You're beginning to sound just like my mother." Then Marty hears his other self say, "Yeah right.". Problem is, in the first Back To The Future, after Lorraine said that, Marty never said "Yeah right."

Correction: We don't know that. In the first movie, after Lorraine says her line, Marty gives her a quick look and it cuts to another scene. He may very well have said "Yeah right" after the cut.

That then creates another problem. You've just mentioned that BTTF1 had Marty give Lorraine a strange look, but in this movie, he is staring out of the window.

Corrected entry: When Doc runs to the end of the alley and takes out his hi-tech binoculars you can't see Marty by the De Lorean down the alley.

Correction: This is because Marty is bending down into the car, out of view.

Continuity mistake: In the beginning when Doc takes Marty and Jennifer to 2015 for the first time, they are descending towards Hill Valley. Doc turns the steering wheel to the left but the car goes right and down. (00:05:53)

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Biff: Go ahead, kid. Jump. A suicide will be nice and neat.
Marty: What if I don't?
Biff: [raising gun] Lead poisoning.
Marty: What about the police, Biff? They're gonna match up the bullet with that gun.
Biff: Kid, I own the police. Besides, they couldn't match up the bullet that killed your old man.
Marty: You son of a...
[Biff pulls back on the gun's hammer.]
Biff: Suppose it's poetic justice. Two McFlys with the same gun.

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Trivia: When Doc and Marty arrive back in 1955 to stop the handover of the Almanac, there are 4 versions of the time machine in the area at that time - the one they just arrived in from the alternate 1985, the one Marty arrived in from the original 1985 in the first film, the one Biff arrived in from 2015 in the second film, and the one Doc buried in 1885 in the third film.

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Answer: Yep, and there is, but they're both elsewhere. Doc's been committed to an asylum somewhere. When Marty first meets the alternate Biff, Biff tells him that he's supposed to be in Switzerland at boarding school - that's where the alternate Marty is.

Tailkinker Premium member

Wouldn't someone probably see Doc and report that he escaped from the asylum?

Maybe, but no way to be sure, and they're not around long enough for that to be an issue anyway.

Jon Sandys Premium member

Answer: Doc would most likely not have been seen by anyone, as the time he spent in the alternate 1985 was primarily inside the DeLorean, at a boarded-up library, graveyard, and his lab (and all at night too) so most likely not spotted by the public.

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