Titanic

Titanic (1997)

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Corrected entry: When trying to steer around the iceberg, they put the propellers in reverse. If they wanted the bow to turn left, they would have turned better and faster had they left the propellers in forward to push the stern to the right to force the bow to the left.

Correction: This mistake was actually made by the crew - the Officer of the deck in charge of the bridge that night directly contradicted everything that was taught to shipmasters when in peril of collision. He ordered the turn rather than just hitting the berg head on, he ordered the engines reversed as well, which they had been specifically taught would make the ship turn more poorly than normal. He should have steered straight for the berg and ordered "All Stop" on the engines. Titanic could have easily survived for many hours with her bow crushed because only one compartment, the bow, would have flooded, as opposed to the six..

That's not true. The bow would've been damaged so badly that the ship would've sunken even faster and probably everyone would've died. Titanic's sister ship Lusitania was hit by a torpedo in the war and suffered damage very much like hitting the iceberg directly would've made. The way the bow dented after hitting the bottom is similar to that.

Getting hit by a torpedo is nothing like hitting an iceberg. When Lusitania got hit an enormous explosion followed caused by a boiler or coal stack exploding, that's what caused her to sink so fast (in only 18 minutes). Got nothing to do with compartments, the entire interior of the hull was probably torn apart from the explosion.

lionhead

The Lusitania was Titanic's rival, not her sister ship. Plus, the bow would not have crumbled to badly if the engines were stopped, and she hit head on. In fact, the 1912 inquiry stated it was likely she could've limped on to New York.

This is extremely inaccurate. Lusitania was hit by the torpedo on her starboard side just aft of the bridge, nearly 200 feet astern of the bow point of the ship. A stem on collision with the berg would have resulted in Titanic not sinking at all, and at the inquiry in 1912 this was actually discussed and found to be the case. Among other evidence they looked at ships that had hit ice bergs stem-on in the past and found that the majority stayed afloat and stable afterwards.

Corrected entry: Pay close attention to the scene as Rose gets out of the car and says, "So this is the ship they say is unsinkable?" Cal (behind her) immediately says, "this ship is unsinkable. God himself could not sink this ship." Right after Cal says the word "ship", his lips continue moving as if talking and further elaborating on the subject, but we hear no words come out.

Correction: I checked and he immediately turned to talk to someone else, he does not move his lips other than to talk to the man after he turns his head.

Corrected entry: When Jack gets handcuffed the master of arms says 'over here, son', the way he addressed him since the diamond was found in his pocket. The subtitles read 'over here, sir'. He surely wouldn't call a third-class delinquent 'sir'. (01:47:50)

NancyFelix

Correction: Firstly, the subtitles are correct. Secondly, as a member of the ship's crew, he would have been trained to be polite to passengers regardless of their social class.

Corrected entry: Throughout the film the ladies are shown with immaculate make-up. No respectable ladies wore make-up then - it was mainly used by prostitutes.

Correction: This is not true. In a publication by the Daily Mirror in 1910, it was made publicly knowledgeable that cosmetics were for literate classes to wear. With this publication, cosmetics become a lot more common among the wealthy. Therefore, to say that the ladies would not be wearing makeup is absurd. Titanic sailed almost 2 years after this publication. By then, makeup would have been readily available.

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Corrected entry: In the scene where Rose is looking at Jack on the bow of the ship, you can see a tiny bit of desert behind him. (01:19:25)

Correction: What you are seeing is cloud formations tinted gold from the setting sun. Not a desert.

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Indeed. So funny to post a "mistake" like that. They shot it all inside a studio, nowhere near any desert. Why would there be a desert?

lionhead

They quite famously built a full-scale replica of the Titanic at the Fox Baja Studios in Rosarito, Mexico, and a lot of shots were on that replica. Rosarito isn't exactly a desert but it's not lush and verdant either. The cloud formations were real clouds, outside.

It was only about 60% of the ship that built for the film.

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Corrected entry: When Rose demands to be taken down in the elevator to look for Jack, the shadows cast on Rose's face are moving down. Surely if the elevator is moving down, then the shadows cast from outside the elevator would be moving up on Rose's face. (01:55:15)

Correction: Each floor would be lit in front of the elevator - as the elevator goes down, the bulb rises up, relatively, creating a shadow moving down.

But the floor isn't moving - other than the elevator. So the shadows can only move in relation to the way the elevator is going. And that means the shadows should be moving up.

Corrected entry: In 1912, it would have been highly unlikely that Rose would have been able to get into and out of a dress in an automobile to have sex. She would have had multiple pieces of underclothes (corset, chemise, etc) that all would have come off as well as her dress. Then, suddenly she's dressed again and they're running away. And no, she would not have been able to leave those things behind as her dress would have been fitted for her corset. I have worn them before for costume purposes and authentic corsets take time to get them on and off.

spartiechic

Correction: We don't know what the dress was actually used for, it could have been for lounging around without a corset or something like that. Therefore we cannot determine whether she needed a corset and whether she wore one during these scenes. As for her underclothes, the chemise and drawers she would have been wearing wouldn't take too long to take off.

CuriousKid1

Corrected entry: David Warner's character (Lovejoy) carries a polished, plated and highly-engraved handgun that Cal uses to shoot at Jack and Rose as the ship is sinking. The handgun is a Model 1911 Colt .45 calibre semi-automatic pistol. The problem is that the entire 1911 production (and well into 1912) of the Colt .45 was to fill a U.S. government contract for a new sidearm. Lovejoy's Colt wasn't manufactured until after the Titanic sank and thus, could not have been aboard the ship. (01:51:30)

Correction: Well, he was an ex-cop, and being Cal's bodyguard, he had to carry something. Besides, Cal's father is a very rich man. He was probably able to pull some strings to get Lovejoy the pistol.

. The M1911 came from Stembridge Gun Rentals. It was chosen because the patent date made it plausible. The Colt M1911 started to be issued in test articles around early 1912 to the US Military. A special run of 100 pistols, blued, were made in August of 1912 for select members of the National Rifle Association, before sales to the general public began the following year. Making it highly unlikely that a civilian or police no matter how rich would be able to buy one. The military themselves had a small number as it was. Even more unlikely it would be nickel plated. A blues version would have been more realistic.

Corrected entry: In the scene of the nude drawing, there is no maid. In high-society 1912, Rose would have needed one to remove her corset and her dress. She could not have done this on her own and she certainly would have needed help getting back into it when he finished the drawing. You see her earlier with her maid, Trudy, lacing up her stays. Rose could not have gone without her corset because all her dresses would have been measured and cut with it on. (01:22:25)

Correction: Rose could, in fact, have removed her own corset, because corsets have closures in the front as well as lacings up the back. And I can certainly remove my own formal dresses that fasten up the back, so I'd hope that she could have as well. As for getting it back on, I'm sure Jack would have been more than willing to lend a hand. Also, the dress she changes into is the blue lounge dress that likely wouldn't have needed a corset.

Not completely true. Corsets were so tight that women couldn't open their own dresses, even less the strings to their corsets. We see this in a deleted scene, before Rose attempts to jump off the ship that she can't open her dress, calling for her maid. So without Jack's help she wouldn't've been able to undress.

Corrected entry: In the Southampton scene when the boat is leaving dock, if you look closely, you can see a distant beach behind the boat. This is the landscape of where they filmed.

Correction: The Isle of Wight is within sight of Southampton, and has lots of nice beaches.

Corrected entry: In the scene where Jack is drawing Rose he turns his sketchbook a few times and the way that he turns the book does not match up to the direction that it winds up when he's actually drawing. (01:23:10)

Lynette Carrington

Correction: He has his sketchbook landscape in his lap when getting Rose into position. He then turns it portrait as he adjusts himself, then turns it back landscape as he exhales before he starts drawing.

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Corrected entry: When the Titanic hits the iceberg, it shows a shot from inside the cargo hold, later it shows another one, it's really just the same shot looped. Note a barrel right behind the large white pole and a small stick in front of it. (01:36:30)

Brooks Jr.

Correction: There are a total of 3 shots showing a barrel by a white pole. In all 3 shots, the barrel's reaction to the water is different. In the first it is blasted over by the water. On the second it is knocked over and rolls off with the third being blasted forwards and up over some bags.

Corrected entry: In the early scene where Jack wins the tickets for the voyage, his hand-rolled cigarette is thin and almost done just before he shows his hand. About five seconds later, the cigarette is fatter and longer. (00:23:55)

Correction: Not true. The length and thickness remains the same.

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Corrected entry: When Brock Lovett opens the safe someone is taking a video. There are differences between what we see in the video camera monitor and what is actually happening, like the way Brock's hair falls over his forehead. (00:09:50)

NancyFelix

Correction: There is no differences between what we see on the video and and off the video.

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Correction: This is incorrect. The tug boats depicted are British built vessels and can be seen on images taken of the Titanic when departing Southampton.

Corrected entry: After Molly Brown says, "Well there's something you don't see every day," we get a slow shot zooming in on the ship. Pay close attention to the door on the right side of the screen, just above the waterline, you can see lots of water gushing out. Water doesn't do that; it wouldn't rise above the sea level.

Friso94

Correction: Yes it would if the pressure below decks is higher than atmospheric pressure. Or the water is being expelled by the ship's pumps, in an effort to slow down the sinking.

rswarrior

Corrected entry: Cal and Rose's cabin is on the port side of the ship. On the morning of 14 April, when they are having breakfast, the sun comes in through their windows directly from the side, and actually a bit from the front. As the ship was sailing West, that puts the sun in the Southwest where it only is in the afternoon.

Jacob La Cour

Correction: That far north, at that time of the year, the sun is always in the southern part of the sky, both morning and afternoon.

rswarrior

Corrected entry: When the ship is leaving Southhampton, there is an underwater shot of all three propellers starting to rotate together. This is incorrect as the middle turbine engine ran of the waste low pressure steam from the outer wing reciprocating engines, thus the outer engines would have to be running for some time before steam was fed to the turbine. The turbine was only used when getting the ship up to full speed, not maneuvering in ports. Also the three props started revolving at 60-70 revolutions per minute, this was a speed that would have given the ship 19 - 21 knots and the ship would have been wrecked in The Solent/Southampton waters if she was lucky with no loss of life.

Correction: Correct, the central propeller was powered by a low pressure turbine taking waste steam from the port and starboard reciprocating engines but was not independently controlled. It would be set in motion virtually at the same time as forward gears were engaged. The only difference was the central prop would not engage whilst in reverse gear. Note that this was the first time Titanic was leaving Southampton and the shipping channel is very narrow so under tug power only, maneuvering a ship of that size required ships power to assist, so 60 / 70 revolutions, whilst would propel the ship at around 21 knots in the open sea, maneuvering would require bursts of such revolutions. If you notice, actual history records that Titanic's propellers created sufficiently strong suction that moorings broke on "SS New York" and brought her on a collision course with "Titanic"

Corrected entry: When the Titanic first set out in 1912, almost immediately after leaving the dock, the suction of her propellers drew in a neighbouring ship, the New York. It snapped its lines making sounds like gunshots and the ship came within several feet of slamming into the Titanic's stern. Only the quick thinking of the tugboat captains and Smith (who ordered a touch ahead on the port propeller) stopped it from actually making contact. You'd think that this event would've been at least noticed by Jack or Fabrizio who would've had front row seats, yet it's not mentioned at all in the movie.

Correction: There were several real life events concerning the Titanic that were not portrayed in the movie. The fictional characters Jack and Fabrizio were at the bow of the ship looking forward through the departure, unlikely they would have noticed the near collision taking place at the stern.

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Corrected entry: In the scene where Brock is reaching inside the safe to try and find the diamond, the sound of church bells can be heard in the background at various times.

Correction: The sound you're describing is so faint, indistinct, and muffled behind dozens of more prominent background noises that it could be the "clang" of any number of things aboard the ship.

JC Fernandez

Factual error: In the film the water tight doors are shown to lower mechanically all the way down, however in reality the last 20 inches or so they would suddenly drop by their own weight to effectively "dent" into the floor creating the water tight seal. A few of the crew in the film getting through "at the last moment" would have actually had their lower legs shattered by several tonnes of iron.

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Lewis Bodine: We never found anything on Jack. There's no record of him at all.
Rose Calvert: No, there wouldn't be, would there? And I've never spoken of him until now. Not to anyone, not even your grandfather. A woman's heart is a deep ocean of secrets. But now you know there was a man named Jack Dawson. And that he saved me. In every way that a person can be saved. I don't even have a picture of him. He exists now, only in my memory.

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Trivia: Bernard Fox, who portrayed Colonel Archibald Gracie IV, also played Frederick Fleet in the 1958 film, A Night to Remember, another film about the sinking of the RMS Titanic. Frederick Fleet was the first person to notice the iceberg and shouted the warning to the crew.

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Question: What happened to Rose's mother after the sinking? I'm curious because she made it very clear while she was lacing up Rose's corset, that she was entirely dependent on Rose's match with Cal to survive. Whether she was exaggerating or not, she made the statement that she would be poor and in the workhouses if not for the marriage and Cal's fortune to support them. Obviously, since Rose is presumed dead after the sinking, she did not marry Cal and her mother was not able to benefit from his money. So would she then, in fact, end up poor and in the workhouses as she said? Rose didn't just abandon Cal and that lifestyle to start anew, she also had to abandon her mother. So did she leave her mother to be a poor and squandering worker? At the end of the movie, Rose gives her account of Cal and what happened to him in the following years, but never anything about her mother. I realize this question would probably be more speculation than a factual answer, but I just wondered if there were some clues at the end that I maybe didn't pick up on or if there were some "DVD bonus" or behind the scenes I haven't seen that answered this.

lblinc

Chosen answer: Because she is considered, in a minor sense, a "villain" in this film for forcing her daughter into a loveless arranged marriage to satisfy her personal wants, most fans probably speculate that she became a poor and penniless seamstress and lived out her life working in a factory. Of course, this is possible, without the financial security of the arranged marriage between Cal and Rose. However, it is difficult to believe that a woman of such status, and who has so many wealthy and powerful friends, would be allowed to languish in abject poverty doing menial labors. I would tend to believe that she probably sold a number of her possessions for money (she did mention that as part of the humiliation she would face if Rose were to refuse Cal's affections), and probably lived off the kindness of others. Given that her daughter was betrothed to a Hockley, his family might have felt an obligation to assist her in finding a suitable living arrangement and a situation for employment. It is also possible that she re-married into wealth. However, this is more unlikely, mainly because back in 1912, it was considered scandalous to re-marry, especially at Ruth's age. However, since Ruth does not make an appearance after surviving the sinking of the Titanic in a lifeboat number 6 (next to Molly Brown), nor is she mentioned again, her fate is left unknown and subject only to speculation.

Michael Albert

In that era, with Rose betrothed to Call, Cal would most definitely have provided for Ruth in the lifestyle she was accustomed to. As Cal angrily raged at Rose the morning after her excursion below decks, "You are my wife in custom if not yet in practice ", thus, society would have viewed him a villain had he not cared for Ruth once it was assumed Rose was dead.

Answer: I've wondered that too. I think it was easier to find out what happened to Cal because she said "it was in all the papers." As for her mother, it likely would have only been in the papers local to where she lived when she passed away. This was in an era before television and of course way before the internet. So I think the only way Rose would have been able to keep track of her mom would have been to live in the area or do some investigation. It seems unlikely she wanted to do either one, especially since it would have 'given it away" that Rose had survived in the first place. I agree with the other statements that Cal would have felt obligated to take care of her, and that the people she owed money to would have tried to collect on it as it would have been in "bad form" under the circumstances.

Answer: Her mother's big problem was a heap of debts. It would have looked badly on the debt collectors to go hovering around her after what was assumed to have happened, and in a society where one's reputation was valued highly. They probably simply gave her a degree of debt forgiveness in her bereavement, then Cal, insurance, and even her Mother herself taking a second (rich) husband could've taken care of what was left.

dizzyd

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