Titanic

Titanic (1997)

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Corrected entry: After Rose calls Brock Lovett, Brock and Bodine are talking on the boat's deck, Bodine says "Rose died on the Titanic when she was 17." Then he goes on to say later that she was an actress in her early 20's. Why would he say she died on the Titanic when she was 17 when he knew she had not?

Correction: They are trying to figure out if the old woman was the same Rose that reportedly died on the Titanic (her family never found her, so she was listed as missing, presumed dead). They say Rose DeWitt Bukator died on the Titanic when she was 17. Then they say that they've traced the old woman, Rose Calvert, back to the early 20's (the 1920's, not her 20's) when she was Rose Dawson, the actress. They can't know for sure if it is the same person.

Myridon
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Corrected entry: The two men in the crows' nest are shown to each have a pair of binoculars to search for icebergs. However, the real men in the crows' nest did not have a single pair between them. They had left them at the port in Southhampton.

Correction: They never show the men in the crow's nest with binoculars, and they even make a point to show one officer asking another if he had found them. The officer replies "I haven't seen them since we left Southampton."

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Corrected entry: When the kids are "making out" in the car below decks, numerous cars are visible. I used to subscribe to a magazine published by the Vintage Car Collectors' Association. One contributor estimated that, in light of the number of wealthy people on board, there could be as many as about three dozen cars sitting down there (with the wood, fabric, and tires gone, of course). He was refuted by a Titanic history buff who pointed out that two copies of the manifest existed. One went down with the boat and the other survived at the destination. Apparently the only car on board was the Peugeot that drove to the dock as the boat was ready to depart. Added error: that car would have been loaded days or weeks earlier. (01:29:40)

Correction: There is no other car visible in any scenes in the cargo hold. It's crates, suitcases, etc.

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Corrected entry: In real life, the stokers in the boiler room wore heavy clothing to shield them from the intense heat, not the simple light clothing they wore in the film. (00:29:40)

Correction: In coal-powered ocean liners, the stokers (the blokes who shovel coal into the boilers), would have worn light T-shirts, or none at all as it was horrendously hot down in the engine rooms. They shoveled coal at a non-stop pace for roughly 8 hours a day, in shifts. If they wore heavy clothing, they would have passed out with dehydration after only a few minutes of work. It was the primary reason stokers were known as "the black gang", from all the coal dust they were covered in.

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Corrected entry: The large diamond necklace that Cal gives rose is called the heart of the ocean. Cal says its name in French; La coeur de la mer, which actually translates to: the heart of the SEA.

Correction: While this is true, the French name is a pun on "coeur de la mer" (heart of the sea/sea's heart) and "coeur de la mère" (mother's heart). English could not reproduce this, and had to find a way to add depth and and mystique to the name. "The heart of the ocean" sounds much more glamourous and poetic than "the heart of the sea". This technique is often used to render names and appellations, and should not be considered as a mistranslation.

Sereenie
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Corrected entry: The diamond in the film, "La Coeur de la Mer," is supposed to be a diamond owned by Louis XVI and lost during the French Revolution, which Lovett refers to also as the "Blue Diamond of the Crown." In one early scene Lovett mentions to Rose that "Today it would be worth more than the Hope Diamond." This is impossible: the diamond of which he speaks is in fact the Hope Diamond, which was also owned by Louis XVI, lost during the French Revolution, heart-shaped, and known as the Blue Diamond of the Crown while owned by the French monarchy. The two stones are one and the same. Also, the Hope was recut sometime in the early 19th century to its present oval shape, so that it had lost its heart-shaped form a century before Titanic sailed; this makes "The Heart of the Ocean" something of a misnomer. Needless to say the Hope Diamond was never on board Titanic, and is now lodged safely in the Smithsonian rather than lying at the bottom of the ocean. (00:44:50)

Correction: I've scoured the internet, and I can see no evidence that the Hope Diamond was ever called 'La Coeur de la Mer' (see http://www.si.edu/resource/faq/nmnh/hope.htm, and many other sites). The Hope Diamond was known as both the "Blue Diamond of the Crown", and the "French Blue". I think the filmmakers were inspired to make that into two diamonds: the real one, which is now the Hope diamond (the "French Blue"); and the fictitious 'La Coeur de la Mer' (the "Blue Diamond of the Crown").

J I Cohen
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Corrected entry: The roses in the car that Jack and Rose make love in look as if they were just put in there, but the Titanic had sailed days ago and its freezing. How could they still be alive?

Correction: On the actual Titanic, fresh roses were put in the vase every day. This was because the owner wanted to visit the car, and he expected it to look nice. The rich were very pampered in those days.

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Corrected entry: When the order is given to turn to starboard to avoid the iceberg, the wheel is spun to port, the opposite direction.

Correction: From Walter Lord's book "The Night Lives On", sequel to "A Night To Remember", page 66: In 1912 a ship's wheel was rigged so that the helmsman turned it to starboard in order to go to port - a holdover from the days when ships were steered by tillers. In 1924 the wheel was rerigged to cater to the instincts of a generation raised on the automobile, but everyone on the Titanic's bridge would have been used to the old way.

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Corrected entry: How is it that the lights stay on so long while the ship is sinking. They don't totally go out until about the time the ship breaks in half (although about a third of the boat is underwater by then). The excuse could be made that there are multiple circuits for the lights in the ship, but there is at least one wide shot that shows all of the lights on the entire ship flicker at the same time. Also, I have been on a few modern day cruise ships and they have hardly any lights illuminating the outside decks at night yet the Titanic seems to have an abundance of outside lighting.

Correction: A. You must remember this was not a paltry cruise ship; this was a luxury liner, in distress, in the middle of the night. All lights in public spaces, promenades, lounges, dinning rooms, etc. would've been lit to aid with the evacuation. B. Fact: Not one of the Titanic's engineers survived the sinking. This is because they remained down below manning the generators until they failed, exactly around when the ship did cleave in two. The exact time is noted in both the American & British inquiries undertaken after the disaster.

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Corrected entry: Early in the movie old Rose states that she only wore the diamond necklace "this once" (when Jack draws her picture). Later in the movie Cal is shown helping her put it on when giving it to her. That's twice.

Correction: If you look at the scene where Cal is putting the necklace on the "young" Rose, he does not actually fasten it, which technically would mean that when the "old" Rose states that she wore it only that once, she is correct. With Cal it was just held up to her.

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Corrected entry: When trying to steer around the iceberg, they put the propellers in reverse. If they wanted the bow to turn left, they would have turned better and faster had they left the propellers in forward to push the stern to the right to force the bow to the left.

Correction: This mistake was actually made by the crew - the Officer of the deck in charge of the bridge that night directly contradicted everything that was taught to shipmasters when in peril of collision. He ordered the turn rather than just hitting the berg head on, he ordered the engines reversed as well, which they had been specifically taught would make the ship turn more poorly than normal. He should have steered straight for the berg and ordered "All Stop" on the engines. Titanic could have easily survived for many hours with her bow crushed because only one compartment, the bow, would have flooded, as opposed to the six..

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That's not true. The bow would've been damaged so badly that the ship would've sunken even faster and probably everyone would've died. Titanic's sister ship Lusitania was hit by a torpedo in the war and suffered damage very much like hitting the iceberg directly would've made. The way the bow dented after hitting the bottom is similar to that.

Getting hit by a torpedo is nothing like hitting an iceberg. When Lusitania got hit an enormous explosion followed caused by a boiler or coal stack exploding, that's what caused her to sink so fast (in only 18 minutes). Got nothing to do with compartments, the entire interior of the hull was probably torn apart from the explosion.

lionhead

Corrected entry: The crew make the phonecall for help at about midnight. The answering ship says it will be there for rescue in approximately four hours. The ship turns up in broad sunlight. At 4am?

Correction: In 1912 ships did not use standardized time zones or adjustments to "Zulu" or Greenwich Mean Time for all purposes. Instead, the time aboard ship was adjusted for eastward or westward travel. Titanic, Carpathia and Californian all had adjusted to a "Ship's Time" that was within a minute or two of each other, but perhaps at least 47 minutes behind present standards. Therefore, 4:00 am (when Caparthia stopped) was really 4:47-4:50 am. Civil twilight had begun by then for a 5:15 true sunrise. By the time the lifeboats were recovered, it was daylight.

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Corrected entry: When Jack and Rose are at the 3rd class party right after the elegant dinner Rose grabs a cigarette from a man's hand and smokes it once and gives it back before she stands on tip toes but when the camera films her again starting to rise up she still has the cigarette in her hand.

Correction: She doesn't give the cigarette back to Tommy - she moves the cigarette to her left hand, gives Jack the hem of her dress, then switches it back to her right hand before going up on tiptoe.

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Corrected entry: Just before the Titanic sinks some people slide on the wood corridor. A skate was used to create the effect, and you can see it under them in some scenes.

Correction: This is not entirely true. The stuntmen were wearing lifejackets that had 4 large ball bearing rollers on a large metal frame built into the back of the life jacket. The only metal part that was on the exterior of the life jacket was the 4 ball bearings. I own one of the stunt life jackets and have seen the movie many times and can assure you that the rollers can not be seen but I do believe you can hear the sound they make while sliding down the corridor. There is a deck chair that slides down at the same time but I don't think wood sliding down wood would make the metallic wheel sound you hear.

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Corrected entry: The lifejackets in the movie have the wrong number of cork pieces. In real life each side had six pieces but in the movie there are twelve. (02:37:00)

Correction: The real life jackets had numerous pieces of cork sewn into pockets. Some jackets have 6 pockets on each side (front and back). Some have 10, and some have 12. These can be confirmed by looking at historic photos from the disaster.

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Corrected entry: While the ship is sinking, it is night time and so all outside scenes are dark. However, when the film cuts inside to the grand staircase, the glass ceiling shows that it is daytime.

Correction: The glass dome was, in fact, lit from the back at night time.

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Corrected entry: Pay close attention to the scene as Rose gets out of the car and says, "So this is the ship they say is unsinkable?" Cal (behind her) immediately says, "this ship is unsinkable. God himself could not sink this ship." Right after Cal says the word "ship", his lips continue moving as if talking and further elaborating on the subject, but we hear no words come out.

Correction: I checked and he immediately turned to talk to someone else, he does not move his lips other than to talk to the man after he turns his head.

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Corrected entry: When Jack gets handcuffed the master of arms says 'over here, son', the way he addressed him since the diamond was found in his pocket. The subtitles read 'over here, sir'. He surely wouldn't call a third-class delinquent 'sir'. (01:47:50)

NancyFelix

Correction: Firstly, the subtitles are correct. Secondly, as a member of the ship's crew, he would have been trained to be polite to passengers regardless of their social class.

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Corrected entry: Throughout the film the ladies are shown with immaculate make-up. No respectable ladies wore make-up then - it was mainly used by prostitutes.

Correction: This is not true. In a publication by the Daily Mirror in 1910, it was made publicly knowledgeable that cosmetics were for literate classes to wear. With this publication, cosmetics become a lot more common among the wealthy. Therefore, to say that the ladies would not be wearing makeup is absurd. Titanic sailed almost 2 years after this publication. By then, makeup would have been readily available.

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Corrected entry: In the scene where Rose is looking at Jack on the bow of the ship, you can see a tiny bit of desert behind him. (01:19:25)

Correction: What you are seeing is cloud formations tinted gold from the setting sun. Not a desert.

Ssiscool Premium member
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Indeed. So funny to post a "mistake" like that. They shot it all inside a studio, nowhere near any desert. Why would there be a desert?

lionhead

They quite famously built a full-scale replica of the Titanic at the Fox Baja Studios in Rosarito, Mexico, and a lot of shots were on that replica. Rosarito isn't exactly a desert but it's not lush and verdant either. The cloud formations were real clouds, outside.

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It was only about 60% of the ship that built for the film.

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Continuity mistake: When Jack and Rose are going down with the ship, there is a man holding onto the flagpole. The man's life jacket disappears and reappears. (02:42:42)

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Lewis Bodine: We never found anything on Jack. There's no record of him at all.
Rose Calvert: No, there wouldn't be, would there? And I've never spoken of him until now. Not to anyone, not even your grandfather. A woman's heart is a deep ocean of secrets. But now you know there was a man named Jack Dawson. And that he saved me. In every way that a person can be saved. I don't even have a picture of him. He exists now, only in my memory.

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Trivia: Bernard Fox, who portrayed Colonel Archibald Gracie IV, also played Frederick Fleet in the 1958 film, A Night to Remember, another film about the sinking of the RMS Titanic. Frederick Fleet was the first person to notice the iceberg and shouted the warning to the crew.

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Question: What happened to Rose's mother after the sinking? I'm curious because she made it very clear while she was lacing up Rose's corset, that she was entirely dependent on Rose's match with Cal to survive. Whether she was exaggerating or not, she made the statement that she would be poor and in the workhouses if not for the marriage and Cal's fortune to support them. Obviously, since Rose is presumed dead after the sinking, she did not marry Cal and her mother was not able to benefit from his money. So would she then, in fact, end up poor and in the workhouses as she said? Rose didn't just abandon Cal and that lifestyle to start anew, she also had to abandon her mother. So did she leave her mother to be a poor and squandering worker? At the end of the movie, Rose gives her account of Cal and what happened to him in the following years, but never anything about her mother. I realize this question would probably be more speculation than a factual answer, but I just wondered if there were some clues at the end that I maybe didn't pick up on or if there were some "DVD bonus" or behind the scenes I haven't seen that answered this.

lblinc

Chosen answer: Because she is considered, in a minor sense, a "villain" in this film for forcing her daughter into a loveless arranged marriage to satisfy her personal wants, most fans probably speculate that she became a poor and penniless seamstress and lived out her life working in a factory. Of course, this is possible, without the financial security of the arranged marriage between Cal and Rose. However, it is difficult to believe that a woman of such status, and who has so many wealthy and powerful friends, would be allowed to languish in abject poverty doing menial labors. I would tend to believe that she probably sold a number of her possessions for money (she did mention that as part of the humiliation she would face if Rose were to refuse Cal's affections), and probably lived off the kindness of others. Given that her daughter was betrothed to a Hockley, his family might have felt an obligation to assist her in finding a suitable living arrangement and a situation for employment. It is also possible that she re-married into wealth. However, this is more unlikely, mainly because back in 1912, it was considered scandalous to re-marry, especially at Ruth's age. However, since Ruth does not make an appearance after surviving the sinking of the Titanic in a lifeboat number 6 (next to Molly Brown), nor is she mentioned again, her fate is left unknown and subject only to speculation.

Michael Albert

In that era, with Rose betrothed to Call, Cal would most definitely have provided for Ruth in the lifestyle she was accustomed to. As Cal angrily raged at Rose the morning after her excursion below decks, "You are my wife in custom if not yet in practice ", thus, society would have viewed him a villain had he not cared for Ruth once it was assumed Rose was dead.

Answer: Her mother's big problem was a heap of debts. It would have looked badly on the debt collectors to go hovering around her after what was assumed to have happened, and in a society where one's reputation was valued highly. They probably simply gave her a degree of debt forgiveness in her bereavement, then Cal, insurance, and even her Mother herself taking a second (rich) husband could've taken care of what was left.

dizzyd
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