Speed

Speed (1994)

51 corrected entries

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Corrected entry: When the sharp curve is coming, Keanu Reeves tells everyone to get onto the side of the bus that the bus will be turning *into*. This would only cause more weight on that side and thus cause the bus to flip.

redbaron2000

Correction: No it wouldn't. The weight was on the correct side.

Craig Bryant

Corrected entry: As the end of the conversation about Jack getting off the bus nears, there's a picture on the TV behind Payne showing the bus going down the freeway, but the bus is on the airport tarmac at that time.

Movie Nut

Correction: The local news coverage is, typically, replaying earlier highway footage throughout the incident. But the bomber, Howard Payne, was watching the bus the entire time with a hidden camera that had nothing to do with local news coverage. The police tell a television news crew to record the private transmission and rebroadcast it in a continuous loop, to fool Howard while the bus passengers were offloaded at the airport. So, Howard is watching his private feed, not the local news coverage. Howard still thinks the bus is on the tarmac and under his control. Too late, he realises that he was completely fooled by the video replays.

Charles Austin Miller

Corrected entry: Payne tells Jack he wants the money left in a green bin on the northeast corner of some intersection. Then later we see Payne looking out a window at the drop bin. If that's the northeast corner, then the shadow of the bin indicates the sun is shining from due north, and quite low to the horizon. That would never happen - certainly not in Los Angeles.

Aerinah

Correction: The garbage can is in place at the northeast corner of Pershing Square, not an intersection (Payne worded it as so). When Traven runs towards the trash can, the Biltmore hotel is ahead of him due west. The sunlight is coming from the east, so Payne's directions were accurate.

Corrected entry: At the airport, as the last bus passenger is crossing to the rescue vehicle, the right rear tire of the city bus blows out. The bus immediately veers to the left, and Annie pulls the wheel to the right to try to keep a straight course. However, a vehicle will always veer to the side with the blown out tire, which in this case, should have been to the right. (01:24:50)

Correction: Actually, with the weight of the bus being distributed over so many other wheels, this blow out most likely would have had little to no effect. I had a blow out in my car's right rear tire and my car didn't even flinch because the majority of the weight was in the front where the engine is and rode smooth on the remaining three wheels until I was able to pull over.

socal19

Corrected entry: Our heroes steer the bus toward a gap in an elevated exit ramp even though we can see in a wide shot that they have at least two alternative routes, one of which is completely unobstructed. It appears that the only possible reason for taking the route that they chose could be to film a jump scene. (01:02:35)

Correction: The other routes would not continue on the freeway. They may lead to other unfinished roadways and the jump was the best option for them.

JC Fernandez

Corrected entry: At the end of the film, a tape loop is made of the camera inside the bus to trick the villain to think that everybody's still on board. With the video equipment shown, it is simply not possible to do a seamless loop in a flick of a second.

Correction: It is possible to do a tape looping because TV crews have that equipment in their trucks, and it wasn't in a "flick of a second"; Mac tells Jack "I only have a minute of tape", but it could've been a bit longer than a minute.

The-Immortal

Corrected entry: When Howard is talking to Jack on the payphone, after blowing up the bus that Jack's friend was driving, Howard says, "I want my money by 11am." Later on when Jack is trying to defuse the bomb when the bus is in the airport, Jack's watch says 5:01pm. We know the time's right as he checked it earlier. (Frame by frame required.) (00:29:10 - 01:11:25)

The-Immortal

Correction: I refer you to the contribution rule that states "If something requires slow motion to spot, chances are it's not a valid mistake, but there are exceptions. For example, a cameraman in shot for a few frames or something else fairly major is worth listing, but a tiny change in position or set wobble that's only noticeable by slowing the shot down won't be listed. Minor mistakes have their place on this site, but they must be noticeable in regular viewing." Please take these things into account before submitting.

Tailkinker Premium member

Correction: According to the IMDb, the part was written for Ellen DeGeneres (and the role was a lot more comedic). Halle Berry was just one of the people to turn it down.

Twotall

Corrected entry: Howard Payne says to Jack at the beginning when they are talking on the phone, that if the bus drops below 50mph it blows up, so how come when we finally see the bus explode at the airport we see the speedometer on the bomb explode at 50 not below it. (00:28:40 - 01:26:55)

The-Immortal

Correction: Probably because the speedometer on the bus is analogue and the speedometer underneath is digital and more accurate. As soon as the speed hit 49.999 mph it blew up.

shortdanzr Premium member

Corrected entry: Soon after Jack gets on the bus, Howard can see the bus on the news. Why is the news at this stage covering this? The only thing that has been suspicious is someone from a car coming from a car onto a bus, but what has happened before this that makes this newsworthy? Looks like regular traffic is flowing up to this point. (00:44:00)

oobs

Correction: It is extremely common for news helicopters to cover rush hour traffic in major cities. If a news crew happened to be monitoring the freeway and noticed a pedestrian running to catch up to a bus, stop a convertible dead in its tracks, get in the convertible, catch up to the bus, the man jumps from the speeding car onto the bus at 50 plus miles per hour, and the car then crashes; it seems fairly normal for the bus to be on the news by this point. It certainly isn't a plot hole.

BaconIsMyBFF

But for that scenario to work, not a single element can be missed. If the film crew missed any of it why would they film the bus?

Ssiscool Premium member

I don't think if a single element was missed it wouldn't be newsworthy. If, for example they missed everything but a man jumping from a moving car onto a bus I still think that makes the bus newsworthy. That's really the only element that can't be missed by the news for this explanation to work. Payne himself comments on Jack's bravery in getting on the bus so that means he saw it. The only thing that could make the news following the bus a plot hole would be if Jack managed to get on without any fanfare at all, which of course didn't happen. It can't be a plot hole because it's not impossible for the news to have followed the entire incident of Jack getting on the bus. The fact that they may have been able to miss something doesn't make it impossible that they didn't.

BaconIsMyBFF

Character mistake: There is no way on earth that a police officer would shoot a hostage in the thigh to 'take them out of the equation'. Anyone who suggested such a thing would likely be taken out and shot themselves. Bullet wounds to the thigh are often fatal, as an injury to the femoral artery causes massive and frequently unstoppable blood loss. Breaking the femur often leads to fat embolisms as bone marrow gets into the bloodstream and then to the lungs. In fact a broken femur is a life threatening injury in itself, and a shattered femur - a typical bullet injury - would almost always result in a total amputation. You cannot aim carefully enough to avoid the bone or artery as their position in the body varies, (as will the bullet trajectory upon impact). Jack is an experienced cop and would know the potentially disastrous consequences of shooting someone in the thigh. He'd shoot him in the foot.

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Suggested correction: Jack is a cop and as such he would have extensive training in first aid, including treating bullet wounds. He would know perfectly well that shooting someone in the thigh was almost certain to cause a life threatening injury. He would shoot him in the foot.

Jack and Harry aren't just "cops," they're elite members of S.W.A.T., meaning they employ "special weapons and tactics." The hostage shooting is extreme, in any case; but the film wanted to quickly portray Jack as unorthodox and a bit of a loose cannon.

Charles Austin Miller

And as an "an elite member of S.W.A.T." Jack would be even more aware of the fact that a bullet wound to the thigh would probably kill or permanently disable his partner. I am not questioning the plot line of showing Jack to be a renegade by having him shoot a hostage, I am simply stating the obvious. He absolutely would not shoot him in the thigh.

No, he didn't. An actor fired a blank round at another actor and a special effects technician detonated a blood squib that had been installed under the second actor's costume, thus creating a fictional representation of logically absurd situation. It's a plot hole.

Then the entire movie is a plot hole. Speaking factually, you could just as easily say that a random passenger could never drive a commercial bus at highway speeds and make 175-foot ramp jumps with it. And, yet, there it is, and that's the story the producers wanted to tell. Call it a factual error, certainly, but the films are doing precisely what the screenwriters and director intended.

Charles Austin Miller

Except for blatant continuity errors, your comment negates every posting on this site. It's a mistake, plain and simple, lazy screenwriting, sloppy plotting, factually inaccurate. The original posting is valid, this is not a chatroom and I have nothing else to say on the matter.

Precisely. That's what makes it a character mistake, per the rules of this site.

Tailkinker and CA Miller are correct. This is a character mistake in an over the top action thriller. In real life cops don't shoot hostages in the thigh but buses don't fly over gaps in bridges either. If you can't watch Speed with a willing suspension of disbelief then it's not the movie for you. Enjoying fantasy action with its flaws does not validate mistakes in other movies and claiming it is lazy writing etc just makes a mistake picker seem uptight.

Suggested correction: It's made abundantly clear that shooting hostages is NOT something that they're trained to do - Jack merely suggests it during one of their 'pop quiz' exchanges; Harry's incredulous reaction should be more than enough to indicate that this is not standard operating procedure.

Tailkinker Premium member

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Jack: You're crazy! You're fuckin' crazy!
Howard Payne: NO! Poor people are crazy, Jack. I'm eccentric.

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Trivia: In this movie the only reason why Howard Payne is trying to blow the elevator and the buses is because he wants money. He also gets very upset when the paint explodes in the bag. If you look on the back of bus 2525 there's a green sign that says "Money isn't everything (Yeah Right)".

ShooterMcGavin34

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Question: When Jack is fighting on the roof of the train,he makes the quip "yeah..but I'm taller" just before the other guys head is knocked off. What does he mean by this? He was laying down at the time, height doesn't come into it.

Answer: He's taller now because he has his head while the villain does not!

Grumpy Scot

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