Corrected entry: When Sarah is in Toby's room and states "I wish I knew what to say!" one of The Goblins says "It doesn't even start with I wish." Then a few lines later, that same goblin says the correct line of the spell, and it does, indeed start with the words: "I Wish..."
Shipper
9th Sep 2020
Labyrinth (1986)
Correction: Sara says I Wish, then goes into her curse to take the baby away. Then at 9:15, one of the Goblins states: it doesn't even start with I WISH. Then a few seconds later, Sara says: I wish I did know what to say to make the goblins to take you away! Then at 9:25, one of the goblins says: "It's I WISH the goblins would come and take the baby away, right now! That's not hard, is it?!" So it is a script error.
8th Jul 2005
Ever After (1998)
Corrected entry: Several times, Danielle is referred to as a 'Commoner' (non-nobility). She even calls herself this. But her father and mother were nobility thus, so is Danielle.
Correction: Danielle's father, while wealthy, was not of the noble class. This point is shown in Danielle's and servant's excitement of her father bringing home a Baroness and how impressed Danielle was with their table manners. A Baron/Baroness is the lowest noble title, so their excitement of a woman of equal or lower social stature would seem exaggerated. Also, if the de Barbaracs were nobility, Danielle would be known to other nobles as a courtier and as her father's only living descendant and heir. The Baroness would not be able to relegate Danielle to a servant - in her own house no less! And at the ball, Danielle would have corrected the Baroness by mentioning her own noble blood.
Thanks. Makes more sense now. Then why would the Baroness marry someone beneath her station? And since she did, would that not demote/strip her of her Baroness title, then? Making HER a Commoner, also, then? And unable to order Danielle about?
She seems to have married Auguste for his money, as she seems to have no income of her own, demonstrated by her selling the castle's belongings to fund her schemes.
When it comes to nobility it's actually hard to lose titles. She would remain a baroness unless she married someone of higher rank or was stripped by royals.
According to the way it is written about peers titles, if the widow remarried then she forfeits her title and follows her new husband, therefore IF she is currently Baroness then that stands to reason it came from Auguste and that would make Danielle nobility and not a commoner.
While I mostly agree with your take on this you stated "Also, if the de Barbaracs were nobility, Danielle would be known to other nobles as a courtier and as her father's only living descendant and heir." however, I don't believe this to be a valid argument. Her father loved her very much and kept her close since he did not have a wife and Danielle did not have a mother so wouldnt have necessarily been trained in the ways of the court. Also, with the disdain her step-mother had for her, there was no way, she would have trained her. I do however agree that Daniele was from the union of 2 wealthy families but have found no proof that she was of noble blood.
Danielle's mother was a comtesse, fr. Countess, French titles were passed via heredity, if available descendants were present. Only one country in Europe, Poland, stopped this for a time prior to 1,000 AD. Titles can be endowed to a partner in marriage, never stripped that I can find. In the case of a commoner being granted a title, the king or queen could approve the title, money always helped. Dumas gives examples in his books. Stripping property very seldom deleted the title as it was in the blood.
Danielle's mother was not a comtesse. Note that the baroness mocks Danielle's claim that her mother was one.
How could that be though if her mother was a Countess? A Countess is of higher rank than an Baroness.
Correction: Actually, we don't know that Danielle's mother was a comtesse. Danielle uses her mother's name, yes, but she could have just added the comtesse part since she was, at that point, pretending to be a courtier.
At the end, the stepmother says, "after all the insidious jokes, you turned your mother into a comtesse" so that shows that she used her mother's name and turned her into a courtier.
Danielle's father was a merchant, thus a commoner in French society but a wealthy commoner.
Correction: The only thing that stands out to me is at the end the Queen turns to the stepmother and asked did she lie to them and the stepmother does not say no. So that would have to mean Danielle is of some position.
The Baroness lied to the Queen when she, essentially, corroborated the rumor that Danielle was a courtier named Comtesse Nicole de Lancret. She said "why yes, and she's staying with us as a matter of fact."
Actually, the Baroness lied to the Queen about Danielle being engaged to a Belgian.
She also lied when they pretended to find the necklace that the queen dropped. The mother had one of the guards steal it.
4th Sep 2004
Rosemary's Baby (1968)
Corrected entry: In the scene where Rosemary and Guy come home to find policemen around a dead Terri's body, Guy tells one of the officers that Terri was staying with the Castevets in apartment 7-E. However, later in that same scene, when he and Rosemary meet the Castevets, he tells them that he and Rosemary live in apartment 7-E. (00:16:35)
Correction: Rosemary and Guy ALSO live in 7-E. At the beginning of the movie, the Realtor explains how all the apartments were 'broken up' from each other. Castavets live in the 'front' part and Guy and Rosemary, the 'back' part of 7-E. (It's explained a couple more times, once by Rosemary on the first night in their new apartment, when they hear the Castavets through their wall and again, when Rosemary meets Teri in the Laundry Room/Basement).
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Correction: While Sarah starts to say "I wish", she doesn't finish the sentence. Then she asks the Goblin king to take the child. The goblin is saying what Sarah said is rubbish because she didn't even start with "I wish."
Bishop73
One of the Goblins says: "Where'd she learn that rubbish?! IT doesn't even start with I WISH!" Audio and Closed caption both states this. Then at 9:25 after Sara says she wishes she did know what to say, one of the other Goblins says: "It's I WISH the Goblins would come and take you away, right now! That's not hard, is it?!"
Shipper