Saw IV

Question: A tape recorded by John directed toward agent Perez states that her partner would soon take the life of an innocent man. How did John know that agent Strahm would kill Jeff? For all he knows, Strahm could have followed Rigg through the factory rather than Jeff. The "if you're good at anticipating the human mind, it leaves nothing to chance" excuse doesn't work here. The only reason Strahm followed Jeff was because he heard Jeff hit a ceiling light with a crowbar.

Question: Why did Hoffman shut down the security monitors before leaving Rigg to die? Also, how did he do it?

Question: A glass casket with a key inside it is shown in John's warehouse. What does that mean?

Chosen answer: It plays an important role in the next few movies.

Question: I don't understand why Hoffman isn't electrocuted at the end. He was connected to high voltage cages and his feet came under water, so how did he and/or Jigsaw plan so he wouldn't be electrocuted under any circumstances?

Chosen answer: The chair wasn't actually electrified. It was just made to look that way in order to hide his involvement in the game.

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Question: What happened to the guy in the first trap? he killed the other man with the eyes sewed shut to get the key. It looked to me like he got the chain unlocked from his neck but he yelled and blood flowed from his mouth. Was he too late?

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Chosen answer: He wasn't too late. He was the guy supervising the Hoffman/Matthews trap.

Answer: He was barely in time; he was still unlocking the chain from his neck as it was being pulled into the winch, pulling his hands in with it, which made him scream in pain.

Question: I don't understand the flow of the film at all; at the beginning, Jigsaw's dead body is in the autopsy room and Hoffman is present. Yet at the end of the film, Strahm has only just discovered Jigsaw's body in the position he died in in the third film. Consequently, I don't see how the beginning of the fifth film makes much sense either. Help?

Chosen answer: The events of Saw III and Saw IV are actually happening at the same time.

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Question: What exactly happened to the FBI agent who got locked inside Jigsaw's room? And how can Hoffman know that Rigg won't escape and give away his true identity? He didn't look that badly wounded to me.

Chosen answer: Recent previews for "Saw V" have revealed that Strahm (the FBI agent locked inside Jigsaw's room) is still alive and will play a role in the upcoming sequel, though we don't know to what extent. Hoffman can be sure Rigg won't escape, because he was shot in the abdomen and was losing a great deal of blood, and by the time help arrives, he will most likely be dead from the wound. Remember, Hoffman is a forensic agent and is probably good at judging the lethality of wounds such as Rigg's.

Question: When Hoffman abducts Rigg you can see that he is not wearing his pig mask. This makes no sense since we see Hoffman pick up his mask in the flashback at the end. Even if this isn't a movie mistake, why did Hoffman not put on his mask?

Answer: Art Blank (the lawyer who had his mouth stitched shut during the Mausoleum trap) abducted Rigg, not Hoffman.

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Question: Why did Rigg discard his handgun after killing Art? I get that he was wounded, but it doesn't make much sense to just drop your gun.

Chosen answer: He's just been shot, witnessed his friend Matthews die and is borderline delirious after all he's been through. Not to mention, he thinks everyone in the room is dead and the tape-player is playing a message addressed directly to him. He's just mentally and physically exhausted and starting to bleed out, so he drops it in favor of grabbing the much-lighter tape player and trying to crawl away.

Question: Why was Art forced to play 2 games? Obviously the reason he was put over watching the detectives was because he acquitted the 3 victims who died in the traps, but why make him play the game at the beginning where Trevor could have potentially killed him when Jigsaw/Hoffman needed him to watch Detective Matthews? And what was Trevor's reason he was picked?

Chosen answer: The two games he is forced into can be considered to be just part of one larger game, similar to Jeff from Saw III, William from Saw VI, Bobby from Saw 3D and even Rigg in this same movie. Any one of the aforementioned characters could have died at any point in their tests before completing them, but as Jigsaw told Hoffman in Saw V, "If you're good at anticipating the human mind, it leaves nothing to chance." Art was placed in a dangerous situation in his first test, but he had a large advantage considering that his opponent had his eyes sewn shut. Why Trevor is placed in the game with Art is never explained in any of the movies, unfortunately.

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Question: This question is also related to Saw II: when Cecil Adams is in his trap, I have a question about that scene. In Saw 2, we see that John tries to commit suicide after he knows he has a brain tumor, but the point is that I really don't understand if that suicide scene happens before or after Cecil's death. Because if the suicide was before, I don't see why he would want to die if he's getting a son and if it's after, I don't find that he looks like someone who already 'killed' someone. Can you help me?

Answer: Stuff happens in the following order: Jill gets pregnant, Cecil makes her lose the baby, john and Jill break up because of it and his resulting change of character, John gets Cancer on top of all that, John tries to kill himself and survives, John vows to "rehabilitate" other people, he decides to start with Cecil.

Chosen answer: John's suicide attempt happens far before the events of the films and even before Jill got pregnant. After he survived he now finds out that human life is a privilege and seeks to 'help' those who have disregard for their lives. Cecil was chosen because he was a patient at Jill's health clinic who frequently had outbursts and lashed out. John knows he had a perfect 'patient' and so began his first test.

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Question: When we see Hoffman writing Amanda's note, you can also quickly see him drop a small, dark object into the envelope. What is this object, or are we meant to find out in a future installment?

Chosen answer: We see Amanda open and read the letter in Saw 3 but we are never told what it said. Maybe we will find out this Oct when Saw 5 comes out.

Question: Why does John stand with his arms open when Cecil's trap breaks? Was it some kind of challenge so he would charge at him and fall into the barbed wire or something else?

Chosen answer: It appears that this is the case. The first trap failed, so by challenging him, John is simply giving Cecil an improvised second test. If Cecil had stopped to think it through, he may not have been hurled into the razor wire. Of course we are never given an official explanation, so it is up to debate, but this seems to be the most reasonable answer.

Question: When, how and why was the police officer recruited by Jigsaw?

Simpsonholic

Chosen answer: We don't know. This will probably be covered in an upcoming sequel.

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In Saw II, Jigsaw shares a story with Detective Matthews about how he attempted suicide after his cancer diagnosis by driving his car off a cliff. We then see Jigsaw pulling a metal rod out of the left side of his stomach. However, no puncture wound/scarring is visible on Jigsaw's stomach when his autopsy is being performed.

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Trivia

When Officer Rigg is walking through the school, before he finds Morgan and Rex in the rod trap, he walks by a dark room blocked off with police-barrier-tape. Originally, there was a scene that revealed this was the room where Troy from "Saw III" died, but it was cut, presumably for pacing reasons.

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