Venom: Let There Be Carnage

Stupidity: Shriek is being taken to a new facility for superbeings, after a medical exam established that her sonic powers that she has been using since she was a kid are too strong to keep her at the correction house. So "naturally" for this transport she is not gagged, sedated, not even bound, and there's just one guy with her, not even wearing earplugs. It couldn't possibly be any more comically unsafe.

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Stupidity: Kasady is the highest profile criminal in California; Eddie's symbiote reaches out for him in a very conspicuous way, tossing him around for the whole length of the cell in a thick tentacle shape, but that has zero consequence, implying that there's no sort of security camera in San Quentin. The guard in the room is not even directly behind Eddie, so he would have seen the large tentacle the moment he looked. (00:27:30)

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Stupidity: Shriek aka Frances Barrison was taken away from the first mental facility when she was a teenager, having grown up there. She then spent the rest of her life, over 20 years, inside what basically was a cubicle of plexiglass. Despite that, the moment she is free she can stick drive like a pro. The way her life was presented, she shouldn't even know how to drive. (00:52:50)

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Stupidity: Venom is sensitive to sounds (the first movie mentioned frequencies from 4,000 to 6,000 hertz, but in this movie both him and Carnage are utterly discombobulated by things like bells and alarms, to the point that if only the prison didn't have literally one alarm siren Carnage would have had a harder time escaping). So naturally he goes to hang a concert. At the end of his soapbox speech he even literally drops the mic, causing a high-pitched Larsen that fails to get any reaction. (00:47:20)

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Stupidity: Throughout the whole movie, wanton murderer Cletus Kasady and Shriek both spend an inordinate amount of time "almost" killing people, since they take forever to deal with them even having them completely at their mercy. Kasady even grabs Anne, tells Venom "You're gonna watch her die" and...leaves, to go eat her on top of the tower where Venom in theory would never see.

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Stupidity: Kasady and Shriek set free Anne's husband, so he'd phone Eddie telling them about the 'wedding'. But they have as hostage Anne and the detective, and both have Eddie's phone number already. Talk about convoluted. Also, Eddie of course has his own phone and the police never thinks to trace him thanks to that. (01:06:35)

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Stupidity: Thanks to Carnage, Kasady steals a car and clothes amongst other things. He then talks to his symbiote, acknowledging its existence. But that scene happens the evening after the night of his escape. The fact that he could have been on the run a whole day with no clothes and no getaway vehicle and without addressing the creature that allowed him to escape appears simply impossible (and it's just confusing editing due to Eddie's timeline with an extra day spent fixing his flat).

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Stupidity: Makes sense that Anne would go to Mrs. Chen's store because Eddie tipped her about it. Less sense that she actually finds Venom there as if the ever impatient starved alien had been manning the counter of the store all that time. (00:59:00)

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Plot hole: A core plot point (lifted by the comics) is that Venom needs phenethylamine, and the only way to get it is from brains and from chocolate. Let's just go with it and forget the fact that phenethylamine can be legally purchased as dietary supplement, which would solve every problem. So, Venom gets incredibly angry because Mrs. Chen's shop ran out of chocolates, and *therefore* they need to go raid a chicken plant to eat some chicken brain. Uh, Venom lives in San Francisco. Chocolate is sold everywhere. If Mrs. Chen ran out of it, there are hundreds of stores and vending machines that have it in abundance. The escalation does not make sense.

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Suggested correction: The point is he needs to steal it. At Mrs. Chen's shop he gets it for free because he protects her from robbers. Eddie doesn't have the money to buy all the chocolate Venom needs all the time. Stealing some chickens as an alternative is better than trying to shoplift at a different store.


In the rest of the movie Eddie lives in his old apartment constantly in need of repairs, but shows zero serious money problems. He has lavish breakfasts, and he replaces the $2,000 TV the same day. Raiding the chicken place appears riskier than slipping his symbiote in a vending machine or shoplift, especially if it's just temporary - again assuming he's so poor that he literally has no money to eat, which is something the movie should have let us know, instead of pointing to the contrary and making him talk angrily about the need for them to not draw attention.

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Not only are the original mistake and Sammo 100% correct, but chocolate isn't exactly expensive. You can get 5 pound bulk orders of melting chocolate on Amazon for like... $25. And that's just a quick 2-second Amazon search. You could probably get it even cheaper elsewhere online. Even if Eddie hypothetically has little money (which doesn't seem to be the case - he has a nicely sized apartment in a major city, new TV, etc.), it's still ridiculous that he couldn't get his hands on chocolate. This is definitely a case of the movie ignoring practicality and reason to manufacture a funny situation.


I agree. There are many other stores that sell candy so all Eddie had to do was to go to one of those instead. Plus, at the end of the first movie, Eddie told Ann that he was going to become an investigative journalist, so he has a new job.

Suggested correction: Which would you rather have phenethylamine, chicken, or chocolate for dinner? That's like saying just because we need food to survive...we should just eat anything or buy our base vitamins and minerals over the counter and from the store.


Sure. How does that have anything to do with the entry? Venom wanted chocolate for dinner and not chicken, supplements to a diet don't mean that you can't eat actual food and the main point was and is that if a store in a metropolis is sold out of chocolate of any kind, there are a dozen other stores in a few blocks' radius who sell it without you having to resort to crime to eat it.

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Cletus Kasady: Every decision we ever make, who do we leave behind? And how do we leave them? Waiting in the darkness, but the rescuer never comes.

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Trivia: Stan Lee's pic can be seen in the convenience store when Edie is looking for chocolates.


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Question: How did Cletus of all people know of Eddie getting dumped by Anne and being abused by his father? Were those stories publicized?

Cody Fairless-Lee

Answer: If they conducted a one-on-one interview, Eddie might've risked sharing some personal things to get Cletus to open up more. Eddie also took her leaving pretty hard. He might be one of those people who, you spend five minutes talking to them and they're GOING to bring up their ex.

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Answer: Those are things Cletus would have talked about during their interviews. Eddie ignored all that and concentrated on finding the other bodies, so Cletus feels like Eddie didn't tell his side of the story.

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