Black Widow

Black Widow (2021)

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Corrected entry: The helicopter that they use to rescue "dad" gets its windows entirely shot out. That is why the helicopter is put on autopilot so that the prison tower can be blown up. Later, everyone is sitting in the back of the helicopter talking and all the windows are intact.

Correction: The windows didn't get "shot out." Yes, the side did get shot, but the bullets just went through. You even see when one of bullets goes through the front window, it only leaves a hole and the widow stays intact.

Bishop73

Corrected entry: Black Widow asks her civilian contractor to procure a jet for her. All he could find was a beat up old helicopter. Which is exactly what she and her sister needed to get Alexei out of prison. They could not have done it with a jet. If they had got a jet they still would have needed a helicopter. So much for that.

toroscan

Correction: You're assuming their original plan was to hover over the prison to be sitting ducks to attacks. It's also possible they expected Alexei to break out and meet them outside the prison or rendezvous at the jet. Not to mention the Quinjet has hovering capabilities if that's what Mason could get for her.

Bishop73

OK. You have a point.

toroscan

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Factual error: Melina tells Natasha that the only way to get past Dreykov's pheromone block is to sever her olfactory nerve. So Natasha smacks her head on a table to sever it, hits Dreykov, then later pops her apparently broken nose back into place. Not only was her nose visibly not broken, but the olfactory nerve is a direct extension of the brain, with projections passing through a key bone in the skull. Severing that nerve would involve brain damage, and traumatic damage to those structures capable of this would require surgical repair.

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Trivia: When Yelena is talking about Alexei wanting to relive his glory days as the Red Guardian, she sarcastically calls him Crimson Dynamo. In the comics, Crimson Dynamo is one of Iron Man's enemies. Ivan Vanko from Iron Man 2 was partly based on this character.

Phaneron ★

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Question: At the end, General Ross' convoy is nearly to Natasha, intent on arresting her...then we cut to two weeks later, and she's about to embark on a prison breakout. Are we just meant to assume she escaped...somehow? Fought off everyone who was in those about 20 SUVs? Ran for it and somehow got away?

Jon Sandys ★

Chosen answer: It was done intentionally that way by the director to be left up to the viewer's imagination. Cate Shortland said "that was intentional, because we wanted to leave the question of how she would get away, rather than allow the audience to get exhausted by another fight." Of course, it's also possible that future films or TV shows will discuss/show her escape. Perhaps she negotiated her way out with information on the Red Dust.

Bishop73

I don't see why she didn't just leave with everyone else. There was no reason for her to stand there and wait. She could have flown off, as well. The convoy was cars, not planes.

Natasha activated her tracker which led Ross to her. The plan was to have Ross and his men arrest Dreykov, but basically things went sideways. Natasha stayed behind to hold Ross and his men off from pursuing the Widows. Presumably, had she left with them, Ross would still be able to track her and everyone would be in danger of being captured.

Bishop73

Until it is explained by one of those future shows, it really can be thought of as a plot hole. The interview, after the quoted bit, goes like this; "We wanted to leave you guys on a high with the question of how did she use her ingenuity? Because she did. And it was probably, I would say, she bargained her way out of that situation. But I don't know." So...the director says she does not know how the hell did she -really - escape that situation, just that she must have done something clever. Hilarious.

Sammo ★

Leaving the how unanswered isn't a plot hole, even if writers or directors don't know the how. At best, it's an unexplained Deus ex machina. A plot hole is something that contradicts what's been established for the sake of the plot, but here, nothing was established.

Bishop73

I wouldn't say it's a DEM. Wikipedia; "Deus ex machina is a plot device whereby a seemingly unsolvable problem in a story is suddenly and abruptly resolved by an unexpected and unlikely occurrence."There is no occurrence here. Nothing that we (nor the director.) know of intervened between the two scenes.On the other hand,"Plot hole is a gap or inconsistency in a storyline that goes against the flow of logic established by the story's plot." Natasha's situation is established and then ignored.

Sammo ★

Which is why I said it was "unknown." An unknown occurrence happened that resolved the situation that wasn't illogical. However, I wouldn't correct you if you submitted a plot hole mistake, but others might since something not being explained isn't a plot hole.

Bishop73

Yes, sorry, I was splitting hairs as usual; I don't think a DEM can be "unexplained" in the sense of "unknown" because its whole point is that it is the narrative device that gives the story its twist; as absurd as it is (like a literal God appearing out of nowhere fixing things), it must be "something." Here there's nothing; we only have a statement of the director, movie-wise it's not even particularly implied that the resolution was peaceful, since Nat simply says she'll hold them off.

Sammo ★

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