Under Siege 2

Under Siege 2 (1995)

33 mistakes

Continuity mistake: After the train comes to a complete and lurching stop, the porter is shown being thrown forward into the bad guys as a lot of baggage falls all over the place. In the final fight scene as Ryback is entering the dining car, all the tables have all their place settings perfectly intact.

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Plot hole: Now why the heck is one of the stealth fighters anywhere near the train? Stealth fighters use advanced targeting and do not need to be anywhere near their target, yet in the movie the one fighter is so close to the train when it gets blown up that it looks like it's on a collision course.

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Factual error: When the porter first gets ready to shoot at the terrorists (after Ryback falls off the train) he goes through a series of verbal instructions to remind himself what to do. The very first thing he says is "safety off". The problem is that the gun he is using is a Glock pistol. Glocks use a device called a "safe-action trigger" but they don't have a manual safety that you turn on and off.

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Factual error: The footage of the "Nevada Petrol Express" actually is of a similar operation that used to run over the Tecahapi Pass in Southern California. And "Espee" terminology never had "Petrol" in its language.

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Continuity mistake: When Ryback kills the guy coming out of the bathroom the lady who showed her broken bra to the bad guy stands in the corner with her hands covering her face, then her hands are on the side of her face, then her hands are back to covering her face.

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Continuity mistake: When the train stops before the terrorists shoot the engineers the train stops on the switch track. But when we see the terrorists with the red flags the switch track is behind them.

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Revealing mistake: When the villain finishes his 1st appearance in the Pentagon's videowall (with the fake Eiffel Tower on the back), the screen turns black when he finishes his statement. However, when the camera turns to the Army men present, you can see the reflection of the villain's face on the glass.

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Continuity mistake: When Bobby Zachs steals the CD, Ryback is seen with him outside the train car making their way to the next car and the train is still going about 40 miles per hour. The scene changes to back inside the train with the bad guys and the window in the background shows the train traveling about 5 miles per hour.

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Deliberate mistake: During the scene where Ryback is fighting Penn (the grey-haired mercenary) in the kitchen, watch for the shot where Ryback flips Penn. The film has been sped up and the result looks disjointed and out of place. The characters are moving FAR too fast for it to look natural.

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Visible crew/equipment: When Ryback throws the exploding bomb into the car that the bad guys are in, one of the guys bursts into flames and you can see the white fire safety mask that he is wearing.

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Continuity mistake: As Ryback approaches his fight with Penn he unloads his gun and puts the empty gun on the table (separate from the cartridge). But then as he runs through to free his niece he picks up the unloaded gun and then uses it shortly afterwards without ever reloading to shoot Dane.

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Other mistake: In the scenes that show the satellite in space, there are collision lights visible. It's not like there is anyone up there that is going to fly into the satellite if they didn't see the collision lights.

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Visible crew/equipment: At the beginning of the film when all the personnel leave the control room, you can see the boom mike visible in the reflection at the top of the glass.

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Continuity mistake: Dale Dye's character Capt. Garza is listed as Capt. Darza on the credits.

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Continuity mistake: When the kitchen is shot at by the bad guys, the chefs inside do not get hit as you can not see any blood, but when it goes to close up, they are ridden with bullets and blood is everywhere.

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Plot hole: When Casey determines to hot-wire the Chevy truck, he raises the hood, grabs two bare wires on the passenger side of the engine, rubs them together, and the truck starts. However, this is patently impossible since the ignition is in the off position. The engine might crank, assuming he magically found the hot lead to the starter solenoid, but it would not start.

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Revealing mistake: The actor who plays Tom Breaker is quite easily the worst impersonator of a smoker. Clearly not at ease with holding a cigarette, he also doesn't ever appear to inhale the cigarette smoke either.

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Continuity mistake: When Casey Ryback is heading towards the start of the train, Penn asks his henchman to check the roof of the carriage. In the first shot a man gets up off his seat and another one takes his place. In the second shot when the man is outside making his way onto the roof, you can clearly see that the other man has not moved from his position, let alone taken his place.

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Revealing mistake: Look for the blatantly awful special effects when the main bad guy is falling into the flames.

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Continuity mistake: This happens when they stop the train in order to get the CD that was confiscated by Steven Seagal. A moment or two after the train comes to a complete stop, Travis Dane explains how important the disc is - if you look behind him you can see the scenery outside the window still moving very quickly.

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Audio problem: At the beginning of the movie, the terrorists start take over the train, Ryback beats up a terrorist and throws him out of the train then some guy says something into the radio like, "we got one casualty", his mouth doesn't match what he's saying.

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Revealing mistake: When Ryback is fighting the grey-haired bad guy in the kitchen, the bad guy is losing and spots a meat cleaver on the counter. When he quickly picks it up, holding it at head level, you can see the cleaver blade wobbling from side to side. An obvious rubber prop.

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Factual error: The film's plot violates the third of the Ten Immutable Laws of Security by Scott Culp. The premise of the law is: When one has physical access to a computer system, given enough time, he can take over the system. In the film, the reverse happens: Dane takes over an ATAC site remotely while people inside (who have complete physical access) cannot do anything to wrest the control back. In the real world, it is usually possible to simply cut the connection cable or antenna and take control back. (Even Windows XP and later have such simple lockdown provisions as part of Windows Firewall.) After the lockdown, the passcodes can be changed and other measures taken.

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Suggested correction: They don't have physical access to the satellite. It is in orbit, it is impossible to have physical access unless they had someone on the satellite.

Factual error: The main premise of the film is ATAC's loss of control over their orbital weapon and their attempt to prevent it from doing damage. According to ATAC, they needed to know where the weaponized satellite is, so that they can lock onto it and send it a self-destruct order via radio waves. This isn't how the real world works: Radio waves emit in all directions from its transmitting source. The location of the satellite need not to be known; only it must be within the reach of the ATAC's signal.

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Continuity mistake: The 2 captains are thrown out of the train into the river under the bridge. Later on, when the shooting starts in the hostage's cars, they're back and one captain is shielding the other.

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Character mistake: After Ryback was allegedly killed, Penn claims "we got him, but the SOB killed six men." Penn would not have known this, as he was with Dane the whole time preoccupied with Dane and his plans - he was nowhere near all the killings done by Ryback and never checked with his men at the time who was still accounted for. Also, it appears Ryback killed much more than just six by then anyway.

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Visible crew/equipment: When the bad guys steal the helicopters and take off you can see the blades spinning at the top of the frame from the camera chopper during the wide shot of the other two choppers.

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Plot hole: It doesn't make sense that Penn would shoot at the black suspension wires to break them off the train. His own men were originally on them to get to Ryback (who was barely hanging on the side of the cliff), and Penn never knew Ryback killed his men or that he was now the one now hanging on the wire.

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Suggested correction: Bear in mind that penn wasn't above killing his own men. He shot the guy who was on fire and later took out the mercenary who felt penn screwed up. In other words he's determined to see the mission succeed regardless of any collateral. He suspects there are still people on the ropes and by shooting the ropes, he is eliminating the ryback threat and not wasting time waiting for his own people to return.

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Other mistake: After Dane says to Penn "They'd shoot all the hostages", he says something additional but there is no sound - just his mouth moving from the side view as the camera pans to Penn's face.

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Other mistake: The Travis Dane feed from Grand Central is still visible in the control-room after Travis Dane has stopped transmitting from the train.

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Continuity mistake: When Travis Dane went on the computer to switch tracks to begin the course for the head-on collision, the monitor displays the green trail swapping from the upper track to the lower track. In the next scene where you see the train passing over the switch track, it went on the upper track.

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Factual error: The terrorists supposedly stole the helicopters from a fictitious National Guard Base near Leadville Co. (No such base exists), but when they take off in the helicopters you can see the eastern slope of Pikes Peak in the background. Indicating that the helicopters are taking off from an airport just east of Colorado Springs.

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Audio problem: When Ryback is making his bomb, he puts a glass inside a sweater and wraps it up and then smashes it. The sound of the breaking glass isn't muffled as you would expect, it sounds like glass breaking and spreading out over a surface.

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