Sammo

11th Jan 2021

Wonder Woman 1984 (2020)

Revealing mistake: Maxwell is surrounded by the Secret Service, but these trained specialists look around idly and confused when he gets lasso'd and turns towards Diana telling her "Well, aren't you resourceful", as if they wouldn't see the cartoon rope. The guy on the left even appears to be fumbling with his communicator or belt weapon. (01:47:00)

Sammo

11th Jan 2021

Wonder Woman 1984 (2020)

Other mistake: The clocks inside the Oval office and the one you can see behind Carl as he is giving Diana the boring tour point at different times despite the two scenes happening simultaneously. (01:43:45)

Sammo

11th Jan 2021

Wonder Woman 1984 (2020)

Plot hole: The plot specifies that the only way to defeat the evil god is destroying the stone or for everyone to renounce to their gifts. That second option is an impossibility, if you consider that people wished things like "a cup of coffee" that they can't take back in any fathomable way or didn't even realise it was a wish, and it's of course statistically impossible that everyone on the face of Earth was convinced by Wonder Woman's pep talk, or was reached by her message, that spreads through the TV.

Sammo

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Suggested correction: Not everyone had to renounce their wish. The point was that as Wonder Woman was convincing people to be better and rescind their selfish wishes, Max Lord began to lose power and regain his humanity enough to be convinced to rescind his wish. Once he did so, all wishes he granted were not only rescinded, but what he took from everyone was given back. And in a fantasy film, you can certainly "give back" the coffee you wished for. It simply becomes as if you never drank it and the coffee goes back into the pot it came from.

Bishop73

Max ultimately does rescind his wish, but the idea as Steve said was for "everyone to renounce their wish", which would have been impossible to begin with, and the movie shows only, constantly, people wishing for bad things, some of which were inherently transient and can't be reversed (such as the person who wished Max to have an audience with the President.: that can't be taken back). The supposed alternative method was impossible to fulfill. However I agree that that the impossible idea suggested was not what ultimately happened, which matters more.;-).

Sammo

11th Jan 2021

Wonder Woman 1984 (2020)

Other mistake: Barbara is on the phone with Diana (which per se is already a feat, an international call from a public phone in 1984) and tells her what she discovered. It's broad daylight for both of them and meanwhile the TV announces that Max came into possession of half of the world's oil reserves, which were in Arabia. Let's assume he had someone from his escort party wish him there, but then again, if he could just teleport, he wouldn't take planes and helicopters as he keeps doing throughout the movie. And the news say that a "instability resulted in a nationwide run on gas." Already? It barely just happened now. Timing seems all over the place. (01:27:10)

Sammo

11th Jan 2021

Wonder Woman 1984 (2020)

Factual error: Diana tells Steve to sum up Barbara's report that the stone appeared in places that all have something in common; "Their civilization collapsed catastrophically, without a trace as to why." That's just ridiculous; one could even argue it could apply to the Maya, who did suffer a sharp decline historians have not reached consensus on, or the Kingdom of Kush's, due to not a great abundance of historical sources, but Carthage? And the Roman Empire had been in a crisis for centuries and it is far from being some mystical overnight disappearance. (01:27:50)

Sammo

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Suggested correction: She never says this sentence. She just said the stone was there, not that it caused unexplained collapses of civilizations.

lionhead

Never? "The stone has traveled the world to seemingly random and different places, but they all have something in common; their civilization collapsed catastrophically, without a trace as to why." She says that sentence as I quoted it. If that's not a clear implication (together with what happens in this movie when in less than a week the whole world is on the brink of destruction) that it is the stone that caused it, I don't know what it is.

Sammo

She doesn't say it in the version of the movie I have. Not at that timestamp anyway.

lionhead

She says it to Steve when she hangs up, my timestamp is about half a minute off since I pointed the beginning of the conversation about civilizations collapsing, I apologize if it caused an inconvenience.

Sammo

Oh wait, now I know what you mean. She is just jumping to conclusions there. She means that the real reason was the stone, not what history tells them.

lionhead

11th Jan 2021

Wonder Woman 1984 (2020)

Character mistake: Barbara mentions that Kush went extinct in 4 AD. Maybe the fourth century? In 4 AD the civilization was still alive and well, and the collapse happened around the 4th century. (01:27:45)

Sammo

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Suggested correction: Barbara didn't say it went extinct in 4 AD. She says the stone appeared in Kush in 4 AD.

Bishop73

Ah so the movie did not get a date wrong, it wanted to imply that the stone chilled out for a few centuries there without doing any damage whatsoever and is not so dangerous after all.

Sammo

11th Jan 2021

Wonder Woman 1984 (2020)

Character mistake: When Barbara gives the hilarious back story of the wishing stone, she mentions that "Romulus, the last emperor of Rome, he had it on him when he was assassinated in 476." That's an amazing historical find in itself, because Romulus Augustulus (just "Romulus" is not really correct) was never assassinated; he had to abdicate the title in that year, but then lived the rest of his life in exile. It's worth noting that the novelization of the movie talks about Romulus, Rome's FIRST ruler, and his 'mysterious disappearance'. (01:27:45)

Sammo

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Suggested correction: Not a mistake in the movie for Barbara to give inaccurate information on history, since she is rushing through all of it without fact checking everything. He focus is the stone, not what happened to Romulus.

lionhead

I don't see what's wrong with saying it's a character mistake, really. By that logic, any bit of historical context provided in a movie could be incorrectly stated as long as it comes from someone who is in a rush. I find more interesting to report when something said in a movie for a serious purpose is wrong and not challenged.

Sammo

She's not an educated historian, OK for her to be mistaken. If she however says wrongful things about something she is supposed to be an expert in, that's a character mistake.

lionhead

It's not OK for her to be mistaken because when you specifically research for something (she has super-fast reading powers now and her task was to do some complex history research, it was not a random mistake playing Trivial Pursuit) there's no way to get that piece of information wrong; she is tracing the path the stone took, the fate of its last known owner is important. That being said, I don't particularly care about her status as expert (which she is, having done a specific research as said); dramatically speaking it's the bit of historical context the movie provides, it should not have mistakes in it when they do not have a payoff.

Sammo

I agree with Sammo. It's a character mistake.

raywest

11th Jan 2021

Wonder Woman 1984 (2020)

Other mistake: In a classic physics mistake that superhero comics already dealt with in the early 70s, Wonder Woman to 'save' the kids pounces them at the speed of (literally) a rocket, faster than a car, and even falls with them in an uncontrolled tumble on the asphalt. Those kids should have been reduced to a pulp. (01:25:40)

Sammo

11th Jan 2021

Wonder Woman 1984 (2020)

Other mistake: You'd think that a road in the middle of a desert wasteland in Egypt would be boring, but the day when a giant wall appears in the country and tanks blow up at hearing distance (especially, again, being in the middle of nowhere), kids can't be bothered and just keep on playing football in the middle of said road. A missile is fired literally seconds before and explodes right there, and yet they are still oblivious and play ball. Same thing for the adults; people casually walk around and look when WWIII has been happening meters away from them. (01:25:40)

Sammo

11th Jan 2021

Wonder Woman 1984 (2020)

Character mistake: Greeting Steve in his gardens, the Emir says "Your fortune the last few days has been impressive to say the least." It literally happened overnight, not 'days'. (01:16:50)

Sammo

11th Jan 2021

Wonder Woman 1984 (2020)

Other mistake: Barbara in her rage against the dangerous drunk throws him against a parked truck. The impact is so strong it deforms the truck bed. By a LOT, and yet the guy is able to get up (on his knees at least). That impact should have pulverized his ribs, he's not a superhero. (01:15:25)

Sammo

11th Jan 2021

Wonder Woman 1984 (2020)

Other mistake: Steve and Diana get a wonderful view of the fireworks flying through them. They are on a jet plane and Steve is actively flying it with the engines on, but they get the kind of view you'd get driving lazily a car on a country road. (01:11:30)

Sammo

11th Jan 2021

Wonder Woman 1984 (2020)

Factual error: Diana conjures a shield of invisibility for the jet, but must have also summoned a sound-dampening spell, since the two are comfortably chatting without a helmet and / or usage of the intercom. (01:08:20)

Sammo

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Suggested correction: You correct your own mistake. Not only is the plane invisible, but also silent as is heard when the plane lifts up and disappears.

lionhead

I was being facetious. The lack of noise happens way before she starts doing the magic hand thing. If anything, it happens in a ton of movies (prolly there's already an entry in the Common mistakes section somewhere) for people to communicate inside aircrafts or other exceptionally noisy vehicles without the aid of intercoms.

Sammo

Before she does the invisibility trick Steve hasn't put on the full throttle yet.

lionhead

11th Jan 2021

Wonder Woman 1984 (2020)

Other mistake: Steve is amazed by the mere sight of modern planes, and by the fact he just learns that there are planes that can fly from the US to Cairo directly (unlike the plane he steals later, incidentally) and in a certain time (which he somehow surmises, it is not displayed on the ticket he is looking at), showing that he absolutely has no prior knowledge of modern aviation. Even for 80s camp, the concept that a WW1 pilot who never even knew of jet planes sits on the cockpit and figures out how it all works in a minute by flipping switches...is totally bogus. (01:08:00)

Sammo

11th Jan 2021

Wonder Woman 1984 (2020)

Continuity mistake: Diana asks what could be imbued into the stone; Steve is trying to guess and goes "I don't know, hmm." The ring with the Gods' writing is in a different spot of the table compared to other shots (for instance, there's a page in between the jewelry and the other pointed dark item on the desk, absent in other shots). (01:05:40)

Sammo

11th Jan 2021

Wonder Woman 1984 (2020)

Continuity mistake: Diana is looking at Steve's amazed face reacting to the subway train. In the wide shot she has her hands on her hips initially, but before the cut she brings the arms fully down her sides. However, in the next shot she is again looking at him in the initial pose. (00:58:05)

Sammo

11th Jan 2021

Wonder Woman 1984 (2020)

Continuity mistake: Steve gets a leaflet from the astronaut and approaches the stairs by the Jupiter-C model. When he coos in the next shot on top of the stairs, the people on the floor changed from the previous. (00:59:10)

Sammo

11th Jan 2021

Wonder Woman 1984 (2020)

Stupidity: Diana and Steve are both characterized as heroes and highly moral individuals, but they both are perfectly fine, without giving any shadow of a second thought, with the fact that Steve is inhabiting the body of a real person, with a real job and friends, completely innocent and whose life has been taken. We don't ask for a movie to cover every possible nuance, but they make reference to his job, use his stuff, endanger the innocent body and use it 'for pleasure' too. They make a big deal of Cheetah losing her humanity, but what the heroes do is arguably worse.

Sammo

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Suggested correction: While this is bad writing that makes them unsympathetic, it is not objectively a mistake. They endanger the man through Steve because the entire world is at stake. They have sex using his body because they, like the writers most likely, do not consider it rape because there's no indication that the man is conscious in Steve's body or that he'll ever find out (So closer to date-rape), and ultimately, Diana wanting Steve to stay in the man's body forever, while arguably out of character, is a character flaw they both realise she needs to overcome by the end of the movie.

Not objectively a mistake? Actually I agree! Stupidity entries are in a tab separate from the proper "mistakes" tab for a reason; all those behaviors that are not full plot holes but happen against logic and character, just because they are being a tool for the plot. The movie does not make them unsympathetic by design; that would be good writing, that wouldn't be stupid, it would be human. But no, their love antics are never characterized as problematic or inherently creepy. The choices they make and that are outlined in your comment are glossed over; the movie hides the face of the guy but they both see it when they 'rape' him and when they risk his wellbeing, When she gives up on him she does it to get her powers back, she is not overcoming a character flaw, since the presence of the "other guy" is not addressed even at that moment, even if they see him. (if Steve were in a new body, the scene would have played exactly the same). Nobody could act this blasè.

Sammo

Everything you've said in the stupidity entry and comment is your opinion (well, probably the opinion of the one YouTube video we've all seen where the guy bashes the film and then others repeat his opinion). Wonder Woman sees Steve, not the man whose body Steve is in. Not to mention we don't hear all their conversations about the situation because it would become clunky dialog. And before she starts losing her powers, the two really had no idea what had happened to the man. But nothing in the film regarding this situation is out of character of the "good guys" because we've never seen them in this situation (nor has anyone actually been in this situation to claim "nobody would act this blasé).

Bishop73

I invite you to rewatch the actual movie and not any youtube video; she sees the guy, they both do; he's never Chris Pine, who is 'canonically' never in the movie as himself. Chris Pine is what we, the audience, see. Look back at the scene of the mirror. They explain it. She says "He's great, but all I see is you." Not meaning that she LITERALLY sees Steve, but that she knows it's Steve and so she thinks of him. He even says, about himself, when he tells her to look for other men, "What about this guy" and she says "I don't want this guy." What's in the movie is out of character for any human being who is not delusional to the point of actually seeing the face of someone else. Which is what the movie needs to turn us viewers into to make the plot work.

Sammo

Nothing in the film suggested to me she sees the other man after Steve comes back. I was basing my comments on watching the film (the YouTube comment was because this mistake is the same rehashed comment found there). When the camera pans around and the audience sees Steve, I took it to mean Diana sees Steve. When she says "all I see is you", I took that to mean she literally sees Steve. The mirror scene was to show the world still sees the man, but not Diana. But I can understand if others' take away was Diana sees the other man but just knows inside her heart it's Steve.

Bishop73

She sees that guy at the party, and only through Steve's words she then realises it's him, which the movie portrays from then on by showing Steve to us. The earlier part of the mirror scene is even more clear. He says; "Look at you. It's like not one day has passed." And she replies jokingly "I can't say the same thing about you." He does not look the same! And he in fact then goes to the mirror saying, "Right, right, right." and comments on the look of "He." So yes, I do firmly believe that it's what the movie says. If I may; the fact that some people on Youtube posted a video saying some things does not mean that anyone else supporting a specific idea - which does have a foundation in what the movie said, as I hope I clarified - did not reach the same conclusion and should be dismissed because they are lazily rehashing hersay. Glad you at least see where I come from, even if you may have not read the movie facts the same way I did.

Sammo

11th Jan 2021

Wonder Woman 1984 (2020)

Factual error: Diana is having a romantic walk with the newfound Steve by the Reflecting Pool, walking towards the Lincoln Memorial. Behind them there's the imposing shape of the Washington monument, but also lit in the night are the columns of the World War II memorial, which was built entirely in the new millennium. (00:46:50)

Sammo

11th Jan 2021

Wonder Woman 1984 (2020)

Factual error: As his secretary Raquel tried to tell him, Max has his kid with him because he gets to see him on weekends, and that's 'his weekend'. Good but...it is not the weekend. This is Wonder Woman 1984, and the robbery happened on July 1st, Sunday, and this scene happens two days after that. Maxwell's "weekend" is happening on a Tuesday. (00:36:25)

Sammo

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