Andy Benham

7th Jun 2018

Red Dwarf (1988)

M-Corp - S12-E5

Plot hole: Cat wasn't manufactured by the Jupiter Mining Corporation and had no connection with them, being born three million years or so after they lost control of Red Dwarf. The takeover by M-Corp would mean nothing to him. Why, then, does he become invisible to Lister?

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Suggested correction: Lister can only see M-Corp products and M-Corp employees. Cat is not an employee of JMC or M-Corp, so he disappears. Lister is the only member of the crew who is employed by M-Corp at this point.

Suggested correction: Cat was a descendant of the cat Lister brought aboard Red Dwarf. Would it be possible that the new owners might have stricter security controls, and Lister was sent to Stasis for a different reason?

Andy Benham

Inventing Deux ex machina explanations for a plot hole doesn't make it any less of a plot hole. M-Corp erases all of the Jupiter Mining Corporation's equipment, personnel and infrastructure from Lister's life. In no way is Cat a part of that. He has no connection at all to the Jupiter Mining Corporation, and until he meets him in Episode 1 no connection to Lister, either.

If M-Corp only erased JMC equipment from Lister's life, then Kryten, who belongs to DivaDroid and not the JMC, wouldn't have disappeared either. He disappears as he doesn't belong to M-Corp, not because he belongs to the JMC. Cat has no connection to M-Corp, as he wasn't a part of the JMC (as you pointed out), and is therefore erased for Lister.

21st Nov 2005

Red Dwarf (1988)

The Inquisitor - S5-E2

Corrected entry: If The Inquisitor has generated a replacement Lister and Kryten, why does Holly not recognize the original Lister and Kryten's authorizations? They should have had the same authorization - certainly Kryten, who is registered as "Additional 001", indicating he is the one and only CPU that has been added to Red Dwarf's compliment during it's voyage; the replacement Kryten would likewise be "Additional 001".

Correction: Holly may also be programmed to recognise voices. The replacements would sound different to the original Lister and Kryten.

Andy Benham

5th Nov 2005

Red Dwarf (1988)

Justice - S4-E3

Corrected entry: During Rimmer's appeal against his 9,000 year sentence for second degree murder, Kryten's entire defence strategy is proving that Rimmer is "a jumped-up grease monkey" who would never be trusted with critically important repairs on the Red Dwarf - that is, the drive plate. The court accepts this and Rimmer is released. The trouble is, Rimmer WAS trusted with the drive plate repairs and he WAS responsible for the crew's death. Kryten's defence is wrong, and on the court's terms the charge is correct and Rimmer is guilty. It's not as if Rimmer and Kryten believe Rimmer is too dumb to be guilty - they know the facts of the case and they are under 'polygraphic surveillance'. Their opinions don't count, the facts stand, and Rimmer is doomed.

Correction: Kryten's argument was that whoever gave Rimmer the orders to repair the drive plate was at fault, and not Rimmer, as he was not properly trained to repair something as critical as a drive plate. Rimmer, never one to doubt his superiors, decided that he was at fault, so was found guilty in the first place.

Andy Benham

Wrong. Read the posting again. Kryten's entire defence strategy is proving that Rimmer is "a jumped-up grease monkey" who would never be trusted with critically important repairs on the Red Dwarf - that is, the drive plate. The court accepts this and Rimmer is released. The trouble is, Rimmer WAS trusted with the drive plate repairs and he WAS responsible for the crew's death. The fact that other people are equally responsible for the disaster is irrelevant. Rimmer was as guilty as anyone.

12th Sep 2005

Red Dwarf (1988)

Back in the Red (1) - S8-E1

Corrected entry: We learn in this series and at The End of series 7 that the nanobots have 'resurrected' the entire crew and red dwarf itself. If this is so where is Kristine Kochanski? The Kochanski we see is from a different dimension. So when the Starbug crashland on Red Dwarf, surely Captain Hollister who had them arrested would have been a little confused as two Kochanshkis would have been present. And as Kochanski is a Navigation Officer, surely she would have had a lot of contact with the Captain?

Correction: Kryten's nanobots are intelligent enough to realise that there is already one Kochanski. It would be simple for them to ignore anything with her DNA (or Lister's as well) so you don't create another.

Andy Benham

2nd Jan 2004

Red Dwarf (1988)

The End - S1-E1

Corrected entry: It's established that Rimmer's shift of technicians get useless, irrelevant jobs (such as repairing chicken soup machines) - so why would Rimmer have been trusted to repair a drive plate that, if not repaired properly, could (and in fact did) lead to the deaths of the whole crew?

Moose

Correction: Perhaps it was too urgent to leave for another shift. If the ship was in danger, wouldn't you get the shift on duty to repair it pronto?

Andy Benham

16th Jul 2005

Red Dwarf (1988)

Legion - S6-E2

Corrected entry: Even though Legion has shown he is completely willing to hurt the Dwarfers, he stands by and does nothing while Kryten takes nearly two minutes incapacitating Lister, Cat and Rimmer, thereby incapacitating Legion. (00:23:35 - 00:25:10)

Correction: He hurts the Dwarfers by self-mutilation (he is a composition of all of them). He might not be able to attack them directly.

Andy Benham

23rd Feb 2005

Red Dwarf (1988)

Timeslides - S3-E5

Corrected entry: When Lister changes the past so he does not get stuck on Red Dwarf, Rimmer is still there as a hologram, but he was only revived in order to keep Lister sane. If the history of Red Dwarf still remained the same (the radiation leak, Red Dwarf flying 3 million years into deep space etc.), despite Lister's absence, the captain would have surely been the only one revived as the most senior person on board. However, if for some reason, Rimmer WAS revived as a hologram, then he would have no memory of Lister as he would never have met him. Also, Kryten would still be aboard Nova 5, would never have discovered the developing fluid and would not have been able to show it to Lister anyway, so Lister could have never gone back to his 17 year old self to give him the tension sheet, therefore this whole episode is a paradox of itself and the Universe will now implode. Well, that's what you get for messing with causality.

Correction: Consider each the first two parts of this mistake - First, perhaps Holly prefers rimmer as opposed to the captain. Secondly, Rimmer WILL have met Lister as he has not changed timelines.

Andy Benham

28th Dec 2003

Red Dwarf (1988)

Back To Reality - S5-E6

Corrected entry: When the crew are in the recuperation lounge, a woman comes in and asks if anyone in the room is called Dwayne Dibley. After everyone denies that it could be them, the woman leaves the case for someone to look at. After she leaves, Lister looks at the case and says it has to be Cat because his photograph is on the case. If this is so, then why did the woman not just look at the picture and tell for herself who Dwayne was instead of repeatedly asking?

Padzter

Correction: It's probably standard procedure to do so in order to jog players' memories - after 4 years being someone else in a total immersion video game, wouldn't you forget who you are?

Andy Benham

27th Jan 2004

Red Dwarf (1988)

Correction: Perhaps they didn't. It has been established that Kryten has a few replacement parts on Starbug - more than likely he used those.

Andy Benham

18th Sep 2004

Red Dwarf (1988)

The Inquisitor - S5-E2

Corrected entry: When Kryten is lying to Lister and saying that his deletion is not Lister's fault, his right foot (and eventually his whole body) is jiggling: Lister says that this is how he knows Kryten is lying. However, Kryten has told lies many times since Lister taught him to, and this foot-jiggling has never been seen before or since.

Correction: Kryten, although now able to override the program preventing him from lying to humans, may still find it a little uncomfortable lying to his best friend (i.e. Lister).

Andy Benham

7th Sep 2004

Red Dwarf (1988)

Timeslides - S3-E5

Corrected entry: When Lister convinces his past self to "invent" the Tension Sheet, he, Cat and Kryten vanish, having never become part of the Dwarf's crew. When Rimmer visits Lister, Lister does not remember him, because they have never met - if Lister can't remember people he's never met, why can Rimmer and Holly?

Correction: Rimmer and Holly are still in the timeline where all of them were once aboard Red Dwarf. Reinventing history has 'erased' Lister's memory of being aboard.

Andy Benham

18th Feb 2004

Red Dwarf (1988)

Correction: As a service droid, Kryten is programmed not to lie to humans (Lister is trying to get him to override this), this does not necessarily mean he cannot lie to other robots.

Andy Benham

25th Jan 2004

Red Dwarf (1988)

Correction: I believe there was a door - it was the entrance to the Captain's office.

Andy Benham

7th Jan 2004

Red Dwarf (1988)

Back in the Red (1) - S8-E1

Corrected entry: If the entire crew has been resurrected, shouldn't there be another Kochanski because the one from starbug is the Kochanski from another Dimension?

Correction: Simple. We can assume that Kryten's nanobods know there already is a Kochanski. They didn't feel the need to resurrect another.

Andy Benham

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