The Bourne Ultimatum

Question: What happened to the previous CIA director in The Bourne Supremacy who was replaced by Erza Kramer in The Bourne Ultimatum?

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Chosen answer: The script of The Bourne Supremacy actually calls Martin Marshall the "Deputy Vice-Director" of the CIA, although in the same script and film dialog, Landy refers to him as "Director Marshall". So it appears Kramer is CIA Director in all the Bourne films, but Marshall is either acting Director in Kramer's absence or is just referred to as a Director.

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Question: Anyone know how he got into Noah's office towards the end? I saw him go up the stairs, but it appears he would need a key card to get in without breaking anything.

Chosen answer: Knowing Bourne, he must have had a keycard on his person. Remember that Landy guided Bourne back to the CIA New York Headquarters; she could have easily slipped a keycard in the Taxi Cab when Bourne was being picked up at the airport. All he would have to do then is avoid being detected by using the fire exits (hence going through the back).

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Question: In the flashback to Bourne's initiation, who is the man he kills?

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Chosen answer: Either a criminal or a prisoner of war. Either way, "who he is" is of little consequence. All that matters is that Bourne killed him without knowing whether or not he deserved to die.

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Question: At the end of supremacy, Landy tells Bourne his name is David Webb and birthday is 4/15/71. In the Ultimatum, that same date is used as a code. Was this a mistake or am I missing something?

Chosen answer: They don't have that conversation twice; it's intended to be the same scene both times. For the purpose of giving Supremacy a better ending, the sequence was used there despite actually taking place during Ultimatum. This is also why Ultimatum starts with him escaping the police in Moscow: it's a continuation of the chase just preceding the scene with Landy.

Question: When Jason shows Nicky the picture of Nathan Daniels and Ward Abbott she says she doesn't know who Ward Abbott is, but I could have sworn they had a scene together in the Bourne Supremacy. Is she lying?

Chosen answer: The man in the picture was Albert Hirsch, not Ward Abbott, and he was never seen in The Bourne Supremacy. She is not lying and she does not know who he is.

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Question: What does Hirsch mean when he tells Vosen, "Just remember why we put Landy there." They talk about framing Landy for BlackBriar, but that never goes anywhere. What was their plan?

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Chosen answer: In the next film, "The Bourne Legacy", we see Vosen testifying against Landy before a congressional committee. He implies that Blackbriar was solely an operation to capture a rogue Treadstone operative (Bourne), and that Landy was responsible for the program as she had aided Bourne.

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Question: In Bourne Supremacy, when Bourne confronted Nicky Parsons about his first mission in Berlin (Neski's assassination), Nicky explained to him that his first mission was not in Berlin, but Geneva instead. Eventually the movie showed through Bourne's flashbacks that the assassination of Neski in Berlin was an off-the-record mission arranged by Abbott and thus not documented by the CIA. In Bourne Ultimatum, when Landy reviewed the archives of the Operation Treadstone, there was a scene where Landy was reading the details of Neski's assassination and there was a CIA stamp of approval on Neski's picture as if this is an official mission from the CIA. Isn't this somewhat contradictory?

Chosen answer: No. The Neski assassination was indeed "on-the-record." As much so as anything Treadstone did, anyway. It wasn't listed as Bourne's "first assignment" though because it was a training exercise. Bourne's last training exercise, in fact. After that, Bourne's first mission as a Treadstone agent (agent, not trainee) was in Geneva.

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Question: When Bourne is talking to Julia Stiles' character she insinuates that they have some kind of history together when she says something like "It's always been hard for me when it comes to you". Does anyone know what she means by this?

Chosen answer: That's probably all it is: an insinuation that Webb and Parsons had some kind of relationship prior to or during his induction into Treadstone, whether romantic or otherwise. It's left deliberately vague.

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