Star Wars: Episode II - Attack of the Clones

New this month Question: Why did the task of assassinating Padme keep changing hands? Nute Gunray wanted her dead, so he requested help from Dooku, who hired Jango Fett, who in turn recruited Zam Wesell to do it. Why couldn't Jango just kill Padme himself? He killed Zam from a distance and the Jedi were unable to pursue him, so he could have killed Padme in the same manner and then escaped.

Phaneron Premium member

New this month Chosen answer: This all done to cover their tracks and make it difficult for the Jedi to implicate them. Nute Gunray didn't want to be implicated so he hired Dooku, Dooku didn't want to be implicated so he hired Fett, etc.

lionhead

Question: When Anakin and Padme get married, Anakin is wearing an outfit that is often seen on Jedi and is displaying a Jedi Padawan's hair braid. Do he and Padme not care that the man who performs the wedding is seeing him (as Jedi are not supposed to have relationships and marry)? Why not disguise him? It's a huge risk to let even one person see a Jedi getting married.

Chosen answer: Agolerga, who officiated the wedding, would have known who both people were, especially Padme. Remember they were also keeping the marriage secret because of Padme's position as Senator. Assuming Agolerga was aware a Jedi can't marry, he may simply not care or agree with the rule. Also, as a holy man of Naboo, Anakin and Padme may have trusted him with their secret.

Bishop73

Question: I've been told that when Obi-Wan and Anakin walk into the bar and Obi-Wan says the line "Anakin, why do I get the feeling that you're going to be the death of me?", Ewan McGregor asked George Lucas if he could say that line so the fans would get the Episode 4 reference or something like that, and also that he asked Lucas if he could do the Jedi mind trick which he demonstrates on the 'death sticks' seller. Could anyone confirm if either of these statements are true, because I don't want to submit them as trivia if they're nothing but rumours.

Heather Benton Premium member

Chosen answer: I think it's unlikely those lines and the mind trick were suggested by Ewan McGregor, as they are present in the second draft of the script, which was written before principal photography began in June 2000, which means they weren't ad-libbed or added as revisions to the final shooting script. There is no mention of this occurring on the DVD commentary either.

Sierra1 Premium member

Question: If Sifo Dyas was really the one that ordered the clone army, why would Obi Wan and possibly other people think he died before?

ricardoglez22

Chosen answer: Because he had. Sifo-Dyas was a Jedi Master with the power of foresight who'd foreseen a galactic war breaking out and secretly ordered production of the clone army 10 years before the events of the film. Count Dooku had him killed and finished the job, posing as his representative. Despite the similar-sounding names, Sifo-Dyas and Darth Sidious are not the same person.

Captain Defenestrator Premium member

Question: After the clones were discovered, Palpatine used the Separatist-Republic tension as a excuse to take control of them, but was the Separatist movement real? He could've faked it from the beginning just to take the clones out himself knowing that he would have power because of the senate. Or was the movement real at first, and he later used it to take control of the clones? The attempt on Padmé's life (which caused the Kamino reveal) besides being the price that the Viceroy requested to enter the Separatists I suppose, was to provoke the war, what do they achieve then, if they didn't know the clones would be discovered?

ricardoglez22

Chosen answer: Palpatine was playing both sides. As Sidious he was controlling and helping the separatists (which sprung from the actions of the trade federation) and as Palpatine he was defending the Republic. Both sides did not know they were being played and both sides thought their cause was "real".

Question: The lightsaber Anakin wields in this film is described as being his first lightsaber, so why does he say "Not again!" when it's destroyed in the Geonosis factory?

JohnShel91

Chosen answer: Because he dropped it earlier while chasing Zam Wesell on Coruscant. Obi-Wan caught it that time and scolded him for losing it.

Sierra1 Premium member

Question: When Padme goes to see Anakin, and he has his little fit, he says "It's all Obi Wan's fault! He's jealous" and then he goes on to say "He's holding me back". Why does Anakin think Obi Wan is jealous and that he's holding him back?

Chosen answer: Anakin, much like a typical youth, is acting immature here and rebelling against Obi Wan's tight control over him. Obi Wan knows Anakin is still too impulsive and rash to become a full Jedi Knight, and prevents him from taking the final Jedi trial. Anakin just wants more independence.

raywest Premium member

Question: Why didn't the Jedi put two and two together and realise that the bounty hunter that was used to make all the clones was the same bounty hunter that was working for Dooku and trying to kill Padme? Ok, so maybe it wouldn't have been enough information to unravel the entire Sith plot, but surely it would have warranted investigating.

Chosen answer: From the questions that he asks Fett when they meet, Kenobi clearly does suspect precisely that. He questions him, then he attempts to follow him to his destination, where he discovers the link to Dooku. Which part of that doesn't sound like investigating?

Tailkinker Premium member

Question: Why do the Naboo people like to elect teenagers to be their queens?

Chosen answer: According to "Secrets of Naboo" (2001), a supplement to the Wizards of the Coast Star Wars Roleplaying Game, the right to vote and holding a leadership position on Naboo is not based on age, but on intellectual maturity.

Kylantha

Question: When Dooku slices off Anakin's arm in the hangar, why does he later receive a cybernetic replacement rather than just reattaching it? Amputated parts of the human body can survive up to several hours (even days, if so), so the troopers would have plenty of time to transport Anakin to a medical bay. Sure cybernetics are physically stronger than the normal parts of the human body, but human flesh gives the Jedi more potential, so why not just "reattach" it?

Chosen answer: In addition to severing his arm, the lightsaber also cauterized the flesh. Cauterized flesh cannot be reattached.

Phaneron Premium member

Question: Why exactly does Obi-wan go have a drink at the bar in the club, while Anakin is looking for the person that tried to kill Padmé? It seems strange that he would do that in a serious situation.

Chosen answer: He's giving the impression that he's letting his guard down, relaxing while Anakin does all the work. He's hoping, correctly, as it turns out, that their quarry will take advantage of his apparent lack of caution to try to take him out, giving herself away.

Tailkinker Premium member

Question: Does Padme not age or something? Anikin has aged ten years between the first and second movie, but she looks the same. Please explain.

Chosen answer: She does age (she's human, just like Anakin) but the changes in her appearance are much more subtle. This is only natural; the change in appearance from an eight-year-old boy to an eighteen-year-old young man would be much more dramatic than, say, from a sixteen- or eighteen-year old girl to a twenty-six or twenty-eight-year old woman.

Phil C.

Question: Do light sabers have a shadow?

sdgirl98

Chosen answer: The hilt does, the blade doesn't - such is the case with all forms of light.

David Mercier

Question: If Count Dooku took over with ordering the clone army for Dyas, did he ask for the clones to have the biochip that would turn against the Jedi? If so, why wouldn't the Kaminoians inform Obi-Wan of this?

Answer: Order 66 was an extra implaced by Dooku later on to the clone army. It was a secret order and the Kaminoans are very loyal to the customers. The fact Obi-Wan came there to inspect the army doesn't mean they should reveal the secret order, they had no reason to do so as they thought Obi-Wan already knew.

lionhead

Question: Why did C-3PO go with them to Geonosis? I always figured protocol droids stayed with their masters unless they were sold?

THE GAMER NEXT DOOR

Answer: Anakin built C3P0, remember? And Anakin had left C3P0 to take care of his mother. However Anakin's mother, Shmi, has now died. So 3P0 is now going along with his creator.

Quantom X Premium member

Question: When the clones arrived at Geonosis, why didn't Palpatine just execute Order 66 there?

DFirst1

Answer: Palpatine had a clear, detailed plan mapped out. First he was to become Chancellor by sympathetic vote after the invasion of Naboo. Then he would instigate the Civil War with the Seperatists in order to install himself as a lifelong Emperor while using Order 66 to wipe out the Jedi. Finally he would completely dissolve the Senate, leaving no-one left to challenge him. He needs the Jedi to fight in his proxy war with the Seperatists to dwindle their numbers and give the illusion that the clones are fighting for the Republic, when in reality they are fighting for him. When Palpatine finally does execute Order 66, it is after the war has left both sides crippled, with the Jedi at the weakest they've been in ages.

BaconIsMyBFF

Answer: He might not have had such a plan in place at that time. He also wanted Anakin to eventually become his new apprentice, so he wouldn't want to risk him being killed by ordering the Clone Army to execute all the Jedi.

Phaneron Premium member

Oh he did have a plan, but I agree the biggest reason was that Anakin was still a Jedi and he couldn't execute the order until he had turned Anakin to the dark side.

lionhead

He had a long-term plan to wipe out the Jedi, yes, but at this point I don't think he had any plan to kill them all from a logistical standpoint, especially given that he had just barely received the Clone Army.

Phaneron Premium member

The Sith ordered the clone army to be made and they were made specifically with order 66 in them, and Palpatine knew it from his former master (who manipulated Jedi Sifo-Dyas to place the order). It was always the plan to kill the Jedi. He just had to wait.

lionhead

Question: What did Windu mean when he said "We will not be hostages to be bartered, Dooku?"

Answer: He means he and the other Jedi will not let themselves be captured and held for ransom or used as leverage against the Republic.

Quantom X Premium member

Question: Why can't Dooku sense Obi-Wan on Geonosis? In ANH, Vader could sense Obi-Wan on the Death Star.

DFirst1

Chosen answer: For one thing Vader is significantly more powerful than Dooku. Vader also has a strong emotional connection with Obi Wan and thus it is easier to sense him.

BaconIsMyBFF

How come? Tyranus, Obi Wan and Vader are all force sensitive. So we could expect Dooku might have sensed Kenobi.

DFirst1

There's nothing in the film to suggest he did. In A New Hope, Vader specifically mentions sensing Obi Wan. In Return of the Jedi, Luke specifically mentions sensing Vader. There is no mention that either Obi Wan or Dooku could sense the other on Geonosis. Dooku being able to sense Obi Wan would go a long way to explain the hilarious ease of Obi Wan's capture, but it can't be said that he could sense him just because he can use the force and force users can do that. We aren't shown it and he doesn't mention it.

BaconIsMyBFF

Maybe Dooku sensed Obi Wan. But, I think it's part of the plan to get Kenobi captured. Because Dooku is going to reveal a "dark secret" to the Jedi.

DFirst1

New this month Answer: Dooku knew that Obi Wan was spying him. But he did that on purpose, by luring him into a trap. As you can see in the film, he was captured so that Dooku would plant a seed with the Republic in order to ensure the Clone Wars began as Sidious and Tyranus planned.

DFirst1

Question: When Tyranus incapacitates Skywalker and Kenobi, why didn't Dooku kill Anakin and Obi-Wan when he had the chance?

DFirst1

Answer: Well in the case of Anakin it's simple, since Dooku was under orders from Darth Sidious not to kill him, as Sidious saw him as a potential Sith apprentice. Obi-Wan, could be several reasons. It could simply be that Dooku held them alive as hostages because he knew Yoda was coming. It's also possible Obi-Wan is part of the Sidious' plan to keep Anakin's training stable and on schedule so he can be turned. If Anakin got a new master or went rogue he might be harder to turn. It's also possible Dooku didn't want to waste time with Obi-Wan, as he didn't see him as a threat.

lionhead

Do you have any evidence of this?

DFirst1

Of Dooku not being allowed to kill Anakin? Of course. Darth Sidious has had his eye on Anakin since Naboo when he met him as a young child, feeling the power he has. Since then he has been training him, teaching him, influencing him to go to the dark side. Obviously he doesn't want any harm to come to him. So, Dooku was not allowed to kill Anakin. Either Dooku himself saw Anakin as a potential Sith (considering his dialogue with Anakin during their final duel) and apprentice or Dooku was told by Sidious not to kill Anakin but try to persuade him to switch sides. As for Obi-wan its like I said, just speculations. Perhaps someone else can elaborate better, perhaps take it to the Forum? I can open a book or 2 about this, but better in the Forum than as a reply here.

lionhead

What's the source of this? Is it from the Novel?

DFirst1

No I got this information from watching the movies. It's just logical conclusions to the events that lead up to the final Dooku vs Anakin duel. Dooku didn't expect to kill Anakin, but turn him. This is the reason he incapacitates Obi-Wan and starts talking to Anakin. But again, maybe a conversation for the Forum.

lionhead

But how did Sidious know that Anakin and Obi wan would fight Tyranus?

DFirst1

When? On Geonosis? He didn't know, Palpatine didn't know all Dooku was doing on that planet whilst he secured the start of the war, but he knew Obi-Wan and Anakin would go after him, knowing he is a Sith. The events at Geonosis with the Jedi and the clone troops came a bit early for Palpatine I suspect, but proved to be working for his plans rather than against it. He wanted Dooku to reveal himself as a Sith to Obi-Wan and Anakin of course. Obi-Wan had some experience fighting Sith and Anakin was eager to prove himself, knowing that, Palpatine took the necessary measures to make sure Anakin wasn't killed, and probably didn't care much for Obi-wan's fate come to think of it. It's likely Dooku didn't see Anakin's potential until he fought him either, immediately understanding (but not fully) why his master wanted him to live.

lionhead

Question: Why is Count Dooku/Darth Tyranus not on the poster? Considering that he is the main antagonist of the movie.

DFirst1

Chosen answer: He is more like a "secret" antagonist. The mystery of who is behind the events in this movie cannot be revealed by the poster.

lionhead

But he's the main antagonist of the movie.

DFirst1

But that's only revealed at the end of it.

lionhead

Answer: Plus, he's played by an great actor.

DFirst1

It's what's known as a "reveal." Yes, he's played by a famous actor, and yes he's the main antagonist. But the audience isn't meant to know that until later in the film. It's supposed to come as a surprise. If he was on the posters (like Darth Vader was for the original films), audiences would go in expecting him to be the main villain, and wouldn't be surprised at the reveal.

Jason Hoffman

Are you saying that if he's on the poster, the audience will judge that he's the main villain of the movie?

DFirst1

The problem is he is only in the end of the movie. If he was on the poster people will expect him sooner and be disappointed.

Well he is not in the end of the movie. He is just in the middle, though. But why do you say disappointed? I am quite disappointed at first that the main antagonist is not even on the poster.

DFirst1

I am sorry for my mistake saying "He is not in the end of the movie". But what am I going to say is He appears in the middle, though.

DFirst1

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