Terminator 2: Judgment Day

Corrected entry: John Connor in the future should have sent back a terminator that didn't resemble the first one. Since he did, it tipped off the police and nearly made an enemy of Sarah Connor, when it should have been unrecognizable and earned her trust faster.

Correction: It's probably not very easy to capture a Terminator, especially with (apparently) absolutely zero damage to it. John got what he could and sent it back. Even if he did know that it was the same model that Skynet sent back to kill Sarah (which he may not have), it's still better than nothing, and there's no evidence to suggest that he could have gotten his hands on a different Terminator.

Knever

Correction: It should be noted, the T-800's all looked alike (at least the 101 models). Plus, adult John Connor remembers being saved by this particular model and therefore sends it back, regardless if there were other models with a different look.

Bishop73

You are mistaken. The future John Connor that send that terminator back does not remember the events of the movie. The future changes whenever something or someone is sent back without affecting that particular timeline. So the future John Connor that send that T-800 back is from the timeline after the first movie, not this one.

lionhead

That statement I made regarding John remembering the T-800 comes directly from James Cameron himself, not something I made up or fan theory.

Bishop73

It might have been true when T-2 was the last movie, but later movies change that. I get it if people want to hang on to the original Cameron deal, but the continuity of the franchise disregards the old rules and comes up with new ones. The events of T-2 created the events of T-3 and thus it is a different John Connor.

lionhead

Many consider T3 a soft reboot and not direct sequel meaning what's established in the film doesn't specifically alter what is established in Terminator 1 and 2.

Bishop73

Fine, but an alteration of the timeline already occurred with the first 2 movies, so the timeline works different regardless. The time travelling changes the future, so what happened in T-2 created a new timeline and does not double back to the T-1000 being sent back.

lionhead

Corrected entry: When the T-1000's truck crashes in the aqueduct, it explodes, and the T-800 gets his gun ready. We see the flaming tire rolling out, the T-800 aims at it, thinking it's the T-1000, but a few seconds later realizes that it's just a tire, and puts the gun away. He has remarkable optics and should be able to see that a tire is in no way the enemy.

Knever

Correction: The T-800 knows the T-1000 can mimic anything it has touched. Until he is sure the T-1000 has not mimicked a rolling tyre to get past his defences, it is a legitimate target.

Corrected entry: In the first movie, Kyle Reese says that in the future nobody knows anything about Sarah Connor except for her name and the one picture he carries. But between the end of T1 and the end of T2, Sarah probably gets some news coverage for attacking computer factories, she becomes famous with the shrinks, is videotaped by them directly and by their security cameras, is friends with a militia, meets the Dysons, and helps with the much-witnessed destruction of Cyberdyne Systems. In the future, either everyone who knew her died, or the future is changed.

Correction: There are two explanations. (1) The future presented in T1 does not need to be changed regardless of events in T2. T2 created a separate time continuum and therefore a different future. Time travel creates paradoxes. (2) Anything including the news reels, shrinks, videotapes, etc. were destroyed in the nuclear attack.

Corrected entry: How come in one of the final scenes the T-1000 at first needs Sarah to call for Johnny when just a few minutes later it could easily transform into Sarah's shape and call for Johnny himself? It's already sampled her from when he scratched her in the lift earlier. This can not be corrected saying T-1000 needs to consciously sample a subject because we saw in the hospital that the guard just stepped on it and the T-100 transformed.

Ivan-sama

Correction: That's why the T-1000 chose to hide on the floor: to obtain a sample of the guard. So, for this enty, no it couldn't have called for John itself yet, as the scratch didn't take a sample. If nothing else there's an argument to be made that its malfunctions have impaired its abilities too.

Phixius

Corrected entry: When T-1000 crashes the truck into the wall as he veers up a slope, if you watch it carefully it is blatantly obvious that there is noone inside the truck itself.Furthermore, if all it took was an explosion to cripple him (seen towards the end of the film), why did this particular one not cripple him?

Chad_Bronson

Correction: An explosion within his body is completely different to an explosion externally. i.e. Firecracker on an open hand versus an firecracker in a closed fist. As for the empty truck, another entry has already been submitted.

XIII

Corrected entry: Sarah says that the first terminator attacked her in 1984. This makes no sense. There are two ways to think about it. 1: John looks about thirteen years old, but thirteen years after the attack is 1997. Judgement Day. There wouldn't be enough time to have the third movie. 2: John's police record says he is ten, but that would mean the year is 1994. He is definitely not 13 in the third movie.

Jack Kaltenbach

Correction: The only real mistake here, is that the actor playing John looks older than 10. The 2nd movie takes place in 1994, when John is suppose to be 10. The 3rd movie takes place in 2004, when he is suppose to be 20. The 3rd movie can happen in 2004, because the events of the 2nd movie delayed judgment day from 1997 to 2004.

pross79

Corrected entry: When hiding in the gas station, the T-800 mentions to Sara and John that it has "detailed files on the human anatomy". However, when they are escaping the hospital, and John is crying, he asks "what's wrong with your eyes?" Though he may not understand the emotional motives for crying, he should know about it in a biological sense, and thus know that it is happening.

Correction: Tears serve non-emotion purpose as well. They provide lubrication and rinse out debris. Seeing tears and unaware of the emotional motives, T-800 assumes something must be in John's eyes and asks a reasonable question.

Thisbe

Corrected entry: As Sarah drags Douglas into the room after she has hit him in the nose, his foot snags his flashlight and it follows him through the door. In the next shot, it is back in the hallway again.

Correction: No, there is a piece of the broom handle lying on the floor before and after he gets dragged into the room. At no time does the flashlight reappear.

Daz

Corrected entry: As John and the Terminator speed away from the burning tow truck, you can easily see a tire track from a previous take.

Correction: This type of 'mistake' has been posted and corrected on numerous films. The scene is taking place on a busy thoroughfare. Why does the skidmark have to be from a previous take? Why not a vehicle which used the road previously?

Corrected entry: The T-1000 rides his Harley out of the burning Cyberdyne building and jumps on the chopper as it flies past. But the helicopter is flying far too low. Chopper pilots are trained to stay above the "dead man's curve" which governs the minimum height for any given speed. Below this height, the pilot can't "auto-rotate" and in case of engine failure the chopper drops like a rock. There are also too many poles, power lines etc. around the labatory to fly safely and the pilot is far too erratic in his maneuvering. No trained police pilot would pull the stunts seen in the film for safety reasons, whether he had a tactical reason to fly that low or not.

Joe Moldovan

Correction: There's no such thing as absolutes in human behavior. All the training in the world doesn't change a person's nature. We don't know if this pilot is prone to being overzealous, so we can't say he would or wouldn't do any such thing.

johnrosa

Corrected entry: When John tells the Terminator to stand on one foot, you can see that he is actually resting the raised leg on a black stool.

Correction: No stool of any kind is ever visible. The closest thing I can find is a side-view showing a car tires (black) that is next to the T-800's leg. It's finger tips are visible under it's thigh. See my screen-shot. No error here.

Corrected entry: The chip is shown several times during the movie and the T-800's one is mentioned at the end of it. But where's the T-1000's one? He's shot (even in the head), crashed, burnt, frozen, takes the dimension of a paper sheet to look like the floor and even explodes but he still works perfectly showing no system failure. And he also shows no need of power or battery whatsoever.

Correction: No one ever states that T-1000 has a chip, or even that he needs one. He is a much more advanced model, remember? For a machine made from liquid metal, that can take any shape it wants, it is not a long stretch to assume that its memory is part of its molecular structure or similar. And just because we never see him powering up, it does not mean that he never does.

Twotall

Corrected entry: If John Connor is only 10, why is he allowed to own and ride a motorcycle without the police saying or doing anything?

Correction: One, John looks much older than his ten years, so any cop that saw him might believe he was old enough to ride the bike legally. Two, who says the police never say or do anything? We know that John has already had several brushes with the law; the bike is just another example.

Phil C.

Corrected entry: When the orderlies are trying to restrain Sarah in the hallway Arnold comes along to rescue her. How does no one see a big man dress in black leather (in a white hallway) with a shotgun before he actually attacks them?

Correction: It's certainly not outside the realms of possibility that they are so concentrated on subduing Sarah (think of what she's just done. this is a highly dangerous person) that they simply don't notice him until he's right near them.

STP

Corrected entry: Listen to Sarah Conner's bare feet as she runs through the insane asylum. Her feet squeak on the floor with the sound of regular shoes.

Correction: Bare feet on a freshly waxed floor can sound like shoes.

Corrected entry: Just before Arnold jumps his bike into the underground tunnels, we see that the end he leaps off is a sharp corner. In the next shot of him jumping, that sharp corner is now flat.

Correction: Not so. Both angles were filmed at the very same location- no difference exists. Watch the scenes again to spot the blunt end in both shots.

johnrosa

Corrected entry: When the T-1000 has entered the Cyberdyne building on his motorcycle, he can be seen driving up some steps. Later, right before he soars out of the window on his bike, he looks out of the window and sees the truck driving away on the same level. Unless that truck was flying, it shouldn't be on the same floor as the bike.

Correction: Why not? Entry into the stairway could very well be below street level. So when he drives the bike out of the window, he is up a few levels in the building but level to street level.

XIII

Corrected entry: The T800 uses the old trick of hot wiring a car by ripping off the steering column cover in the car in the desert. But in doing so, he is grimacing. Is it hurting the big, strong cyborg?

Correction: The terminators are designed to look as human as possible. A normal person would get suspicious if he saw someone performing heavy lifting or tasks involving strength if the person doing them was not showing some signs of fatigue or frustration.

Corrected entry: When Sarah Connor is shooting up Dyson's home with her M16, her head is bobbing wildly up and down as she is firing the weapon on full automatic. There is NO recoil to an M16. I know, for I was in the service and fired an M16 many times. (01:36:50)

chaz47

Correction: The M16 has a light recoil but it's recoil nonetheless. There are dozens of videos showing someone of Sarah's approximate size firing an M16 on full auto reacting more to the recoil than Sarah does.

Grumpy Scot

Corrected entry: In the scene where Terminator appears for the first time he arrives in a sphere that burns everything in its way, the tires from the trailer are affected by this but the trailer doesn't fall down like it should. (00:06:20)

Correction: Since the trailer has dual rear axles, and only the rear-most pair of tires were chopped, there's no reason an empty trailer would drop the slightest bit, and we can see thru the opening that there's no cargo near to new hole.

johnrosa

Factual error: The truck that the T-1000 uses to try and run down John in the overspill, is a Freightliner FLA 9664, which uses a diesel engine - it does not use petrol. Diesel is much harder to combust in comparison to petrol/gasoline, and the spark from the battery cables on the spilt diesel would absolutely never ignite under those circumstances. (00:37:55)

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Trivia: While the characters were running around a hot steel mill, in reality the temperatures in the mill averaged only about 40° Fahrenheit. The actors had to be consistently spritzed with water to make it look like they were sweating.

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Question: Arnold said that when the T-1000 took the form of someone he would likely terminate the person being copied. Why didn't the T-1000 kill Sarah? He had been in physical contact and could mimic her voice. There was no reason to get her to call John at the end, he could have killed her immediately.

Answer: In addition, another deleted scene shows that the T-1000 was damaged by being frozen and thawed and was having difficulty maintaining form. He wanted to be sure he wouldn't mess it up.

LorgSkyegon

What's especially odd about the scene is that both examples we gave to help answer this question were actually deleted from the original release. When I first saw this movie in the theater when it was released I had the exact same question, it wasn't until I saw the Special Edition with the deleted scenes reinserted that it made sense.

BaconIsMyBFF

Answer: It comes down to the difficulty in impersonating someone John actually knows. The T-1000 had failed impersonating someone close to John when he got the name of the dog incorrect. A deleted scene (re-incorporated into the film in the Director's Cut) shows him checking the dog's tag afterwards, so he is aware exactly how he was outsmarted. Keeping Sarah alive is a way to avoid this sort of mistake. She is more useful to him at this point alive. He is not expecting her to endure his torture and he certainly isn't expecting her to be able to fight him afterwards.

BaconIsMyBFF

Answer: While the T-1000 can copy her appearance and her voice, he knows he can't quite copy the emotion and desperation conveyed in her real voice, at least not enough to be convincing to John. Of course, he tries anyway and almost succeeds until the real Sarah shows up.

Kyle G.

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