Batman Forever
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Suggested correction: I really think this trivia jumped the gun a bit, especially considering it was posted before "The Flash" even came out. "The Flash" was based all around multiverses, and there are also other diverging timelines based on the 1989-1997 Batman movie franchise, like the "Batman '89" comic books, which contradict not only this movie but also "The Flash." (Not to mention the George Clooney cameo in "The Flash," which is just an extra layer of confusion.) You can't necessarily just say in a vacuum that these movies are "no longer considered canon," especially because they were quite literally made to be canon. It's just going to come down to whatever specific film/TV/project you're watching and whatever it chooses to acknowledge. Unfortunately, multiverse stories have opened a weird Pandora's box where now continuity is almost meaningless.

TedStixon

I don't recall the source of where I got this info, but it makes me wonder if they were misled about the Schumacher films being removed from canon, if for no other reason than to keep George Clooney's cameo a surprise. If nothing else, I suppose this trivia entry can be amended to say that the Schumacher films can be considered to no longer be in the exact same continuity as the Burton films since Keaton and Clooney both appear in The Flash.

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Character mistake: When Bruce is looking at Chase's various clippings of Batman on her desk while she's tending to the tea kettle, there is a paper that says "Diagnosis Form #39," and just above it, the word "schizophrenic" is incorrectly spelled as either "schizofrenic" or "schizoprenic" (a metal clip is partially covering the last six letters of the word, so it's hard to determine whether it's an "f" or a lone "p" where the "ph" should be). (01:03:11 - 01:03:32)

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Quotes

Edward Nygma: And you are?
Chase Meridian: Chase.
Edward Nygma: And what a grand pursuit you must be.

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Trivia

Trivia: In the brief time that Tim Burton was still considering doing a third Batman film, Riddler was the only villain that he planned on using. The idea of using Two-Face did not come up until Joel Schumacher joined the project.

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Question: If Bruce had backed Edward's invention, would Edward have still done what he did in the movie (using the device to grow smarter, try to outdo Bruce etc)? Or did Bruce spurning him cause him to do that?

Answer: It's hard to say for certain. If Bruce had approved of the project, there would have been a lot more volunteers and oversight of its production, which would have alerted Bruce of the device's side effects, at which point he or one of his underlings would order its production to cease. Edward would still feel spurned and motivated to continue his work, but without the resources of Wayne Industries at his disposal, he may have a more difficult time seeing his plan through.

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Answer: And more precisely, narcissists like Edward Nygma/The Riddler can barely tolerate when someone else refuses to have their ideas, viewpoints, or feelings prioritised or contrasted against others, even if it is for a legitimate cause or logical reasoning. The fact that Nygma already had a sense of envy towards Bruce's fame that he idealised would all but guarantee that he would seek some kind of revenge or humiliation on Bruce, no matter what the circumstances would be if Bruce had in fact done so later.

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