Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan

Corrected entry: When they discover that the Genesis device has been activated, Kirk volunteers to beam over to stop it. Even though he is told it can't be stopped, that would indicate the transporters are still working. Why does nobody suggest beaming the device itself off of the Reliant and out into space with the widest possible dispersion, like they did in "Wolf in the Fold" to Redjac?

Garlonuss Premium member

Correction: The Genesis wave forming was interfering with transporter lock, making this solution impossible.

Grumpy Scot

Correction: If they can't even get a lousy phaser lock or a clear picture on the view screen inside the nebula I have an extremely hard time buying that the transporter would've worked out for them in any capacity. Seems likely to me that in his haste and desperation Kirk simply blurted out the first thing that came to mind. For all we know David's "You can't" was actually him reminding Kirk that they can't just beam aboard the Reliant in their situation.

TonyPH

Correction: The source would be "Star Trek." Anytime the crew needs something to get out of danger, it's inexplicably unavailable. ST: TNG Season 5 Episode 18, Cause and Effect, the Enterprise tries to back from the anomaly, the maneuvering thrusters are suddenly non responsive, with no explanation.

David George

Correction: Chekov never met Khan onscreen. They could have met when Khan was exploring the ship. Also, Kirk gave Khan access to the ships computer, he might have read the officer's personnel files looking for people he could suborn to help his attempted takeover of the Enterprise. This would allow him to know Chekov's name and appearance even if they hadn't met face to face.

Grumpy Scot

Corrected entry: David tells Kirk that "we encoded four minutes" for the Genesis device. However, when the countdown is at 3 minutes and 30 seconds, the Reliant doesn't blow up until one minute later.

Correction: It is not shot in real time; events being shown on the Enterprise overlap. The scenes in the engine room are taking place at the same time as those on the bridge.

BocaDavie Premium member

Corrected entry: Maybe not a mistake per se, but certainly odd: A sign posted at the rear of the bridge says "No Smoking On The Bridge At Any Time." A good idea to be sure, but at no time in any incarnation of "Star Trek", whether the TV versions or the theatrical releases has any character ever been shown to smoke anything. Gene Roddenberry' Utopian vision of the future didn't include any of our contemporary vices, so it is odd that a sign like this would ever be posted. However, it's possible that this was simply a warning to the cast and crew on set, and had no impact on the fictional characters and their universe. [This was actually a deliberate act on the part of the director, Nick Meyers. He likes putting elements that give a common, real-world sense to them. He's also the one that gave the crew bunk beds in Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country.]

Correction: There are vices shown in "Roddenberry's Utopian vision of the future". Alcohol and synthehol is consumed on several occasions, and people still get drunk and rowdy. And people can be seen smoking on holodecks (Data when portraying Sherlock Holmes, in Picards Dixon Hill programs, Riker's jazz club, etc.)

Twotall

Corrected entry: When Spock dies, the left side of his body and the left side of his head rest against the transparent shield. In the next scene, the back of his body and the back of his head rest on the shield. The position of Captain Kirk relative to the position of Spock also changes between these scenes.

Tony DiClemente

Correction: Look more closely, before the scene changes to outside the enclosure, Spock's body shifts and it is his shoulderblade and not his back that rests against the transparency. It is the same position of both his head and his back that we see outside of the transparency.

Corrected entry: When Chekov calls Dr Carol Marcus about coming to take the Genesis device (after being subdued by Kahn) there is a science tech in the background, he is African American. Watch him, and his reaction to Chekov's statement about coming over to Regula One. At that point Chekov has mentioned just coming over. The techs reaction is one of questioning annoyance, he then darts his eyes realizing that he's reacting to the right thing at the wrong time.

Correction: His eyes don't quite 'dart' - he simply looks at Dr. Marcus after making that 'annoyed' face in reaction to Chekov's line 'We will be there in 3 days'. There's any number of perfectly normal reasons why this visit alone would annoy him. This would only be a 'mistake' if he'd also shouted 'You can't take Genesis.' (Though even that could just be the reaction of a paranoid conspiracy theorist. proving him correct in the process.)

johnrosa

Corrected entry: Khan claims to have remembered Chekov from "Space Seed", which ran during the series first season, but the character of Chekov wasn't created until the second season of the series.

Correction: Chekov only appeared in the show starting with the second season, true, but that doesn't mean that the character wasn't already working on the ship during season one. His sudden appearance was merely the result of him getting a promotion to the primary bridge crew - Khan simply met Chekov elsewhere on the ship at some unseen point during his time on the Enterprise.

Tailkinker Premium member

Corrected entry: The scene where Checkov first goes to Khan's cabin on the planet, he notices a belt with "Botany Bay" and realizes it is Khan's cabin. This film is based on TOS-"Space Seed," however Checkov was not in "Star Trek" when this episode was made. How would Checkov know about the ship "Botany Bay"?

Correction: Maybe Checkov was assigned to another section of the ship at the time of Space Seed, then later he was promoted to bridge officer.

Corrected entry: After the Enterprise first attacks Reliant and they have moved away, Kirk says "Let's see how bad we were hurt". Then Scottie is seen coming out of the lift with a wounded crewman. Wouldn't it be better to take him to sick bay? Sickbay is in the upper (circular) hull, but is on a lower deck than the bridge. There's no sane reason why Scotty would bypass the deck where Sickbay is to go all the way up to the bridge in order to get help in carrying the wounded crewman back down again.

Correction: "no sane reason"-exactly. Scotty thinks the crewman, who happens to be his nephew as I recall, is dead. He's overwhelmed with grief and so is not thinking rationally.

Corrected entry: In the end, Kirk's log entry starts as "Captain's Log" when he is still an Admiral. He doesn't get demoted to Captain until Star Trek 4 for so many violations.

Correction: "Captain's Log" refers to his position, not his rank. Notice that in some episodes, Spock records in "First Officer's Log", not "Commander's Log". You are called Captain when you are in command, whether your rank is Lieutenant j.g. through Commodore.

Grumpy Scot

Corrected entry: Khan wears a damaged 'Starfleet' emblem on a chain around his neck during this movie, obviously a souvenir from the last contact he had with any Starfleet personnel, which was Kirk and company back during the original TV episode 'Space Seed'. However, the emblem that Khan wears was not in use by Starfleet (either on the Enterprise or fleet-wide) at the time of his 'release' on Ceti Alpha V, as it came into use much later, during the 'Star Trek-The Movie' era. (Reportedly about 11 years after the ending of Kirk's original '5 year mission'). So where did Khan get the emblem?

Correction: The emblem was originally Enterprises sign (throughout the original series each ship had its own sign). In the episode "Space seed" one of Kirks crew left with Khan to be his girlfriend. She died on the planet (killed by one of the Ceti eels), so the emblem is for her. Now if Khan is genetically engineered & can conquer part of Earth, making the symbol shouldn't be much work for him.

Corrected entry: After beaming down to Ceti Alpha V (thinking it is C.A VI) and entering the cargo hold, Chekov notices the words "Bottany Bay" on one of the straps. This means that they are actually in part of the ship that Kahn and his followers were found in. How? That ship was ditched in the episode Space Seed well before they decided to drop Kahn and his followers off at the planet.

Garlonuss Premium member

Correction: Khan and his followers would need resources to build their new life on Ceti Alpha V - what remained of the Botany Bay would be an obvious candidate, with the added advantage of not providing Khan with any up-to-date technology. Kirk could have taken the Enterprise back to retrieve the ship for this reason.

Tailkinker Premium member

Corrected entry: In every battle that results in major ship damage getting warp drive back on-line is always a priority. If it was so easy for Spock (in the sense that he did not need any tools and not easy in the sense that he died) to get warp drive back on-line why didn't somebody else (with full protective gear) do exactly what he did a lot earlier? Also, what did he do?

Correction: Spock is faster and more intelligent that anyone else on the ship - what he does to the warp drive is a very quick and dirty fix to get them moving. Had anyone else tried it, they would undoubtedly have got it wrong, resulting in the destruction of the ship - remember that the Enterprise is largely crewed by trainees at this point. The only other person who might have pulled it off, namely Scotty, is out of commission, leaving Spock as the only one left to do the job.

Tailkinker Premium member

Corrected entry: In the original pre-screening of the film, the audience was furious over the death of Spock. This left the creators with the thought of "what have we done?" Their solution: shoot an extra scene in which Spock hits McCoy with a nerve pinch, transfers his 'living spirit' into the comatose doctor, and then insert it into the movie prior to the point in which he puts on Scotty's gloves and steps into the reactor room.

Correction: On the DVD Leonard Nimoy states that this change actually arose from a conversation between himself and a producer where they realised during filming that there might be a possibility for another sequel so they inserted the mind-meld as a vague hint that Spock could return.

Corrected entry: At the very end of the movie, as the Enterprise finally jumps into warp, and away from the Genesis explosion, we see a huge explosion, and then we see the Enterprise, racing at warp speed. If the Enterprise were traveling at warp speed, which remember is Faster-Than-Light, then we would have seen the Enterprise first, THEN the explosion.

Correction: Warp Drive isn't a faster than Light Propulsion - it warp the space around it and enters sub-space which allows you to get to places quicker - if flying faster than light you would age slower than the rest of the galaxy around you.

Corrected entry: Khan is able to capture the starship Reliant because Chekov and Terrell beam down to Ceti Alpha V, mistakenly thinking it's Ceti Alpha VI, where Khan takes them prisoner. Khan explains that Ceti Alpha VI exploded. Ceti Alpha is obviously a known solar system. Nobody aboard Reliant, not the helmsman, navigator, nor science officer, noticed that there was a whole planet missing from the system?

Correction: This is easily explained by considering the slow rotation of planets; it is likely that the ship approached the system from a particular direction and assumed that the other planet was hiding behind the star. It is further suggested that the explosion of Ceti Alpha VI threw Ceti Alpha V out of orbit, apparently into the previous orbit of Ceti Alpha VI.

Corrected entry: After beaming down to Ceti Alpha 5, Chekov discovers the SS Botany Bay name tag and says, "We've got to get out of here". They put on their helmets and go outside. Judging by past Star Trek movies/episodes, why wouldn't they have used the "Beam me up quick" method instead? The Botany Bay's cargo containers were sitting on the surface, not underground, so there shouldn't have been a problem.

Correction: I'm sure the very strong sand storm was causing interference with the ship's transporter (this has been shown in other Star Trek episodes). Also, the metal in the container probably has some degree of interference. Combine the two factors (storm and metal container), it would be enough of a problem, causing them to want to go outside to beam.

Bruce Minnick

Corrected entry: When Spock administers the Vulcan Neck-Pinch to McCoy in Engineering (just before he enters the radiation-contaminated area), McCoy grimaces, then sinks to the floor. When Spock is delivering his lines of, "I'm sorry doctor, I have no time to discuss this logically" McCoy's eyes flicker open, and he actually looks toward Spock's approaching hand when he is about to mind-meld with him.

Correction: McCoy could be partially conscious, but unable to move his body from the effects of the nerve-pinch.

Grumpy Scot

Corrected entry: Chekov was not part of the original crew during the TV episode of "Space Seed", but in the movie Khan acts like he knows him and Chekov not only knows the name of Khan's ship but he also knows what happened.

Correction: While the Chekov character wasn't created at this point in the series, the "official" fix states that Chekov WAS a member of the Enterprise crew, but was not seen during the episode. Therefore, Khan would have had the chance to meet him during "Space Seed", and Chekov would be aware of the events that occurred. All these events are generally accepted to have happened "off-screen".

Corrected entry: When the Enterprise first encounters the Reliant, we see several screen shots of the Reliant on the Enterprise viewscreen, and several shots of the Enterprise on Reliant's viewscreen. The puzzling thing is, if you watch very closely to the shots of the Enterprise on the Reliant's viewscreen, you will notice that the stars are actually moving BACKWARD, as if the Reliant were in a slow reverse. Obviously this is an editing blooper since Khan just ordered that the ship slow to one half impulse power, which still moves the ship forward.

Correction: Trek canon has shown the viewscreens are not the same as windows, and that the screens can show us views from vantage points where no camera exists. These vantage points also do not need to be stationary. As such, the views of Enterprise on Reliant's screen are taking Enterprise's speed into account, and the 'vantage point' is backing up to keep her 'in the shot' while Reliant is still moving forward.

johnrosa

This would work except the stars continue moving when the film cuts to exterior shots where the Enterprise and Reliant are both in view, even when they are nearly parallel with each other.

TonyPH Premium member

Plot hole: Why doesn't Reliant know that Khan is exiled here? The Federation is so terrified and opposed to genetic engineering that it's still illegal 300 years after Khan. So why is there no warning along with the data on the Ceti Alpha system? Kirk logged what happened with Khan and his solution of marooning him. Starships use nav data to navigate star systems. Ceti Alpha 6 exploded, yet the helmsman or computer never noticed that there is one less planet than there was when Kirk was there? There is no debris from the explosion? Ceti Alpha 5 is the exact same size and was conveniently blown into the exact same orbit as Ceti Alpha 6 used to have? So there is nothing whatsoever to make the crew even suspect that it's not 6? Enterprise would have to have scanned the planets in the system to know that one was habitable for Khan. Did Ceti Alpha 6's destruction somehow magically turn Ceti Alpha 5 into its exact duplicate? If Starfleet ships have been there to map after Ceti Alpha 6 exploded, none of them bothered to check on the exiles? Pretty callous for Starfleet, don't you think? With the technology and amounts of information available to Starfleet vessels, there is NO logical reason for the Reliant to think that this planet is Ceti Alpha 6. Finally, would the Federation be willing to test a device whose exact effects will be unknown on a planet so close to another inhabited one? (00:21:00)

Grumpy Scot

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Suggested correction: The answer is yes: against all known laws of science, the inexplicable explosion of Ceti Alpha VI led to Ceti Alpha V conveniently taking its orbit and making it easy to mistake for its former sister planet. A mistake would've been to give an explanation that can be debunked. By leaving it to "somehow" the movie leaves it open to a million possible rationalizations. You can even make a whole other story about the crazy circumstances that led to this incredible result.

TonyPH

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Saavik: You lied!
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Trivia: As the shuttle with Kirk and company approaches the Enterprise in Space dock, Sulu says "I'm delighted. Any chance to go aboard the Enterprise..." According to IMSDb.com, there was a full dialog between Kirk and Sulu in the original script. The rest of Sulu's line was "however briefly, is always a chance for nostalgia." Kirk also told Sulu the he had cut the orders for Sulu to Captain the Excelsior.

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Question: This isn't technically a mistake per se, but it involves Spock's funeral. Several Enterprise crewmembers are killed during the battle with Khan, and yet only Spock gets a funeral. Perhaps there was a smaller memorial for the others, and Spock got a full funeral due to his status as captain, but why is Kirk only sending Spock's body to the Genesis planet? I imagine he sent only Spocks's body there since in ST3 there aren't dozens of little regenerated human babies crawling around down there.

Vader47000

Chosen answer: I imagine there was a memorial service for everyone killed. Starfleet's policy on corpses is probably to return them to Starfleet HQ where their families can collect them for whatever services or ceremonies they want unless the crewman had left instructions specifying otherwise. There's no telling why Kirk sent Spock's body to Genesis. Based on Sarek's reactions in ST3 he almost certainly went against Spock's wishes, unless of course, Spock left no recorded instructions and Kirk did what he thought would please Spock based on his being highest ranking officer and Spock's closest friend. It also seems very out of character for Spock to just assume that whoever he transferred his katra to would be able to handle it and carry out his wishes (McCoy certainly couldn't!). Ultimately it seems we have to chalk it up to a plot device to base the sequel on.

Grumpy Scot

According to the novelization, Kirk's intentions were to send Spock's remains into the Genesis sun. Lieutenant Saavik altered the trajectory of the torpedo beforehand, due to Spock's desire to see the Genesis effect for himself. The torpedo casing was expected to incinerate when entering the atmosphere. As pointed out by David Marcus in STIII when the pod was detected on the scanners, the gravitational fields were in flux at the time, and the pod had obviously soft-landed on the surface.

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