Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines

Corrected entry: When Kate's dad is dying,he says they have to take a bearing of 0.5 degrees to get to crystal peak. When Kate and John are in the plane, she says they are on a heading of 015 degrees

Correction: Bearing and headings are two different things. A bearing is the "true" direction you would need to go to get to the location. A heading is the direction the plane flies, correcting for wind and magnetic variance, to get to the location. Most times the bearing and heading will not be the exact same number as the plane will be skewed into the wind so it doesn't get blown off course. If you are flying to .050 degrees, you are slightly east of north (000 degrees). With an east wind, you would have to face into the wind to continue flying in a straight line to 050, and a heading of 015 is plausible with a fairly moderate side wind.

Corrected entry: In the sceen where the T-101 pulls out his damaged hydrogen fuel cell, he throws it out the window, watch closely and put it on slow motion, when it almost hits the ground you can see a black shadow of a person in the backround. (00:40:10)

Correction: If you need to put the DVD on slow motion to see the mistake, it is not a movie mistake.

Corrected entry: When John and Kate find out that they have ended up in a nuclear shelter the timer of the C4 does not beep all the time, it starts beeping again when John has to notice them to not blow himself up accidentally.

Correction: This is a stylistic choice of the director, not a mistake. The beeping is unimportant in between, as he wants the viewer to focus on the sounds coming from the speaker. The beeping would be a distraction, so it drops out of our hearing just as it would drop out of John and Kate's concentration.


Corrected entry: When the Terminator is swinging about on the crane arm, he is sent crashing through steel, glass and concrete. He is wearing ordinary leather clothing which he took from the stripper. They would have been torn to shreds by those impacts.

Correction: The crane arm smashes through some tall, narrow concrete pillars as it slices through the face of the showroom. Arnold passes through an open door on his way into the building, and has assorted sales banners and ceiling decor raining on him from above, but except for exiting the building's end through glass (which he hits against it's flat plane which shatters and falls away - it isn't held with a sharp edge against him), he is hit by little else. He is moving forward the whole time, so what falls from two stories above hits the ground behind him.


Corrected entry: After the crane crashes, the T-X has a clear shot at John's truck. The roads are empty, he was a short distance away, and continued to travel in a straight line. The T-X could have easily fired her weapon at him. It's not really a character mistake, because the T-X's sole goal is to kill him, and she goes through a lot of trouble to try and do so throughout the film, so why let up here? It just seems too inconsistent and 'convenient' to the plot.

Correction: The TX's primary weapon is never seen firing at a range of more than maybe 100 feet (hitting the flammable gases truck while aiming for the Toyota). Allowing that the fleeing truck is travelling at about 40mph (disregarding a local 25mph out of fear for their lives), the solid 11 seconds between the crane's halt (sound stops) and the TX's emergence from the wreckage, the Toyota will have travelled about 600 feet. The view of the fleeing truck shows it to be at least two blocks away (see traffic lights and road markings). Terminators are infiltration/assasination designs. It makes sense their weapons would key around close-up fighting.


Corrected entry: In the Controlled vehicle Chase scene what happened to one of the police cars? I have watched the scene over and over again and I think they just forgot about it. The fire van got blown up. The ambulance got kicked over. And the other police car got rammed. The second police car though was driving around in formation at the beginning of the scene but when Connor pulls away into a suburban area it disappears completely. It in fact reappears for a couple of seconds in one shot just before Arnie hits the Fire engine. And then when it flicks to the TX's point of view there is no police car in sight. (00:31:15 - 00:36:55)

Correction: A valid question, but not a mistake unless the second car appeared again later as if it was never gone. As is, the car is simply lost in the plethora of destruction while we are looking at other action. The car you mention just before the fire engine is the one car that follows John through the suburbs (look hard and you'll see John's truck just ahead of it) and is then rammed by the crane- it isn't the missing car. In any case, a question, not a mistake.


Corrected entry: The hearse's landau bows in one shot are on upside down.

Correction: When? Too non-specific. Describe the scene involved.


Corrected entry: When John falls off his motorcycle; he pulls off his helmet without undoing the buckle, but if it had never been done-up in the first place it would have come off in the crash.

Correction: Nothing guarantees a helmet will come off in any collision, since a properly fitted helmet is rather snug. Sometimes they do come off, sometimes they don't. The strap is to make certain it doesn't- but leaving it undone doesn't guarantee it falls off.


Corrected entry: At the start of the film, the T-X kills Jose Barrera. Later, the T-850 knows his name and that the T-X killed him; he shouldn't do, because the whole point of the Terminators going back in time to kill people is that those people would never then be able to oppose Skynet in the future. So Jose, having been killed in the past, would never have fought against Skynet and the T-850 would never have heard of him. There is no consistent interpretation of time travel in which the T-850 can have heard of Jose, while not making it pointless for Skynet to kill people in the past.

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Correction: Time travel films tend to operate according to their own rules - as time travel is, at best, highly theoretical, there are no hard and fast rules about how things should operate. Both the T-850 and the T-X originate in a timeline where Barrera survived to fight against Skynet - his death at the hands of the T-X means that that precise timeline will no longer come about, but, by the rules followed in the film, that doesn't mean that the two Terminators will suddenly lose all knowledge of it, wink out of existence or anything like that.

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Corrected entry: When the T-X jumps into the crane, we get to see a shot through her POV, and operating instructions (or something similar) appear on the screen. This is an obvious reference to T1, when the Terminator climbs into the cab of the 18 wheeler as operating instructions appear when looking from the T-800's POV.

Correction: Why does every similarity have to be a reference? She sees operating instructions, that's because she's the same basic model of robot as Arnold was except with a few updates. They both get operating instructions because they need them to operate the vehicle. Similar shot, yes, but reference, probably not.

Corrected entry: When John says he lives "off the grid," he drops his Budweiser bottle off the bridge and it drops into the water sideways, but in the next shot it lands straight down. I have experimented with this myself and a falling bottle with liquid in it will not right itself as it falls.

Correction: The bottle is dropped upright, bounces off the vertical bridge support and continues to the water nearly on its side. True- in the air, it will not right itself. But on impact with the water, the heavier end of the bottle (the bottom) will sink first, and the underwater shot shows the bottle rightly sinking upright.


Corrected entry: Considering Arnold reset himself, how could he have then known where John and Katherine were?

Correction: The Terminators are highly advanced machines that have extremely good memory storage capabilities. Like in Terminator 2 (extended edition), we see the T-800 have his chip removed and the memory switch reset. Yet when he comes back online, the Terminator retained everything about his key mission.


Corrected entry: In the vet clinic, Katherine says the time is 5 a.m. In the chase scene that follows, the shadows of the cars and buildings are way too small to be dawn. The scene was filmed around noon.

Correction: If you say the scene was filmed around noon, can you explain the rising sun ?


Corrected entry: In the scene where the T-850 is driving the vet truck and is talking to John Connor about the other T-101, the gashes on his face reveal his metal skeleton but when he talks, you can see the painted/pasted metal moving with his cheeks.

Correction: The gashes don't move. They aren't painted on or makeup. They used green screen effects for this. When these effects are used the secondary image (endoskeleton) can (and in this case does) remain stagnant while the primary image moves across it.

Corrected entry: The events in this film seem to overlook James Cameron's final Terminator project. Universal Studio's short film "T2-3D" has the same cast and crew as T2: Judgement Day. In it, Cyberdyne Systems develops Skynet, John Connor (Furlong version), together with Arnie, travel to the future, identify the Skynet building", and ultimately destroy it.


Correction: This was an amusement park ride, and therefore has absolutely no influence on the continuity of the film series.

Corrected entry: At the beginning, the T-X is naked, and so she puts on real clothing. However, whenever she changes shape, the clothes also morph as though they were part of her, which they aren't.

Correction: The T-X doesn't put on real clothes, she simply mimics her look after the clothes of the rich woman that she kills. That's why the clothes morph too: They're not real.


Corrected entry: When John talks to Kates father after being shot, you see that Kate is mouthing John's lines.

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Correction: I watched this scene several times and it appears as if Claire Danes just opens and closes her mouth - a lot. Her mouth movements don't actually make words. She does the same thing whenever she is leaning over her father, regardless of who is talking.


Corrected entry: In the military base, the T-850 repeatedly hits the T-X with an Penn Arms L6 37mm grenade launcher. Yet the grenades never explode, they just force the T-X backwards.

Correction: Most grenade launchers require that the target be a certain distance from the launcher before the round will detonate, short of this, they are just fast moving lumps of metal.


Corrected entry: When the Terminator came up next to the crane truck driving the firefighter truck, the Terminatrix looked to the left window and had no reaction but then she double takes like a human would. Are her reactions really that slow?

Correction: These robots were built to resemble humans and would have the reaction of any normal human.

Corrected entry: When John and the Terminator are preparing to escape in the hearse, the Terminator is reaching under the dash to hotwire the car, after wasting valuable seconds connecting the wires he simply turns the key on.

Correction: I think that is just a throwback to T2, when John taught that Terminator to look for keys instead of wasting time hotwiring.

Character mistake: In the opening narration, John Connor says that he was attacked by the T-1000 when he was 13 years old. This is wrong. In Terminator 2, we see that John Connor is only 10 years old, as shown on the police computer when the T-1000 accesses it. (00:02:20)

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Question: In the second Terminator movie, the Terminator says that he can't self-terminate. When the Terminator is trying to defeat T-X, he manages to destroy himself and her in the process. If the Terminator couldn't self-terminate in the second movie, how come the new one could?

Answer: The difference there would be suicide vs sacrifice. In T2, basically what he meant is he could not commit suicide as it was against his programming. They had beat the T-1000 and had won, but it was too dangerous for Terminator to stick around and knew he had to be destroyed. But he could not purposely do it to himself as it was an act of suicide. However in T3, it was a sacrificial move. The goal of his actions was not to destroy himself, it was to take out the TX and prevent her from reaching John. He had to do this by any means necessary and made a sacrifice play by shoving his core into her mouth and blowing them both up. It wasn't suicide this way, it wasn't self termination. He was taking her out but caused himself to be collateral damage.

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Also, after watching that scene again, I'm adding this little tidbit. The Terminator didn't actually die from the thing he did to the TX in that move. If you notice towards the end after the nuclear bombs go off, the fall out ash is falling down around its head and its eyes are still on, slowly fading away. It was badly damaged by its move, but the bombs in the end finished him off.

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Answer: For me, T2 was a lot about machines being able to learn so in T3 when he managed to shut himself down it was because he had learned compassion and not to be just a machine following orders as well as understanding how vital it was that John survived.


Answer: If you listen in the second film, I don't remember if it was cut out of the theatrical film and put back in the extended version or not, John and Terminator are in the desert looking at the guns Terminator says "I have to stay functional until the missions is complete." Once the T1000 is dead Terminator had no other reason to function and thus sacrificed himself. In this film he knows the fuel cell would destroy the TX once that happened his mission was completed and no longer had any real reason to function anyone.

That can't be the case, because by the end of T2 his mission was complete, and he still couldn't self terminate.

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