Saw V

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"Saw V" is certainly a step-up from the rather disappointing fourth installment. It wisely takes its time and attempts to develop its characters in a much more deliberate manner. Unfortunately, the film does fall a little flat during some key scenes, and the finale is a tad-bit too predictable, which drags it down a few points. But as a fan... I still had a pretty good time with it. 3 out of 5.

TedStixon

Finally a saw film that is as good as Saw or Saw 2. Brings in a new element to the traps and trials not seen before.

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Continuity mistake: When Seth has been sliced by the blade, he spits blood that goes all over his face. It then cuts to Hoffman looking at him, then back to Seth, and now the blood on his face has gone. This happens three or four times. (00:05:10)

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Jigsaw: Hello Seth, I want to play a game. Right now, you are feeling helpless. This is the same helplessness you bestowed onto others. But now, it's unto you. Some would call this karma, I call it justice. Now you served five years of what should have been a life sentence, for murder. A technicality gave you freedom, but it inhibited you from understanding the impact of taking a life. Today, I offer you true freedom. In thirty seconds, the pendulum will drop far enough to touch your body. Within sixty seconds, it will cut you in half. To avoid the pendulum, all you have to do is destroy the things that have killed... Your hands. You must insert your hands and push the buttons to start the devices before you. Your bones will be crushed to dust. Will you destroy the things that have taken life in order to save one, Seth? Make your choice.

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Trivia: When Agent Strahm is in his head box trap screaming, there is a lot of flash-cutting, including a shot of an outtake of the actor smiling with a towel in the cube and staff around him. Happens exactly at 9:52:370 into the movie, or frame 14203. VERY fast and easy to miss.

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Question: It's explained that Hoffman wanted to be the hero and that he expected that no one would make it out alive in the building after Rigg's game. How in the world could he have expected or even decided this? He had no control over others who won their game in the building, so therefore how on earth could he predict that Strahm would kill Jeff in the previous film? And was the water cube intended to kill Strahm as he was warned not to proceed?

Answer: The games of Jigsaw and his followers were always intended to be extremely difficult, but with a small chance for survival based on the actions of the player. Hoffman probably wouldn't have cared either day if anyone else survived, but likely anticipated that most of the others would die. (Strahm's line about everyone being supposed to die with Hoffman being the soul survivor was more conjecture than anything.) In terms of killing Jeff- both Jeff and Strahm were emotional hot-heads, so in all likelihood one or both was going to die if they encountered each other. Strahm's water cube was intended to be an execution tool for breaking the rules. That's why Hoffman seemed so shocked that he miraculously survived.

Answer: Best guess is the person in the mask at the end of the tunnel would've killed Jeff and kept Strahm for the water trap? We could also assume that Hoffman has the same characteristics as Amanda and made the water trap "unwinnable" and just forgot to take Strahm's pen out of his pocket. And if Strahm never proceeded in the operating room, he would've died of suffocation?

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