No Country For Old Men

Corrected entry: The laws of physics dictate that for any action there is an equal opposite reaction. Anton Chigurh uses a high powered air gun that defies the laws of physics. It fires a powerful enough blast to blow out the cylinder of a lock. There should be a powerful kickback. The lack of a kickback is most obvious in the scene where he shoots the motorist in the head with it, and his hand moves forward with the blast. (00:05:10)

Correction: It does not *need* to defy the laws of physics, since the weight and resistance of the lock cylinder can be small relative to the inertia of the gun and man holding it. I don't know whether a human head provides more or less inertia than punching out a lock. However, the acts are certainly faked, so in that sense true physics are being defied. The same effect can be seen on a pool table - a hard hit cue ball can merely stop dead when hitting another ball of the same weight straight on. Full transfer of inertia with zero recoil. If the target ball were much lighter, the cue ball wouldn't even stop completely.

Corrected entry: Chigurh uses a captive bolt gun, which is supposed to explain why he feels no recoil. However. This only works if the gun is not pressed against something. If it's pressed against a target - like a lock in one case in the movie - he should feel an equal and opposite force to what is being experienced by his target: the mutual forces of action and reaction between two bodies are equal, opposite and collinear. The nature of the target is irrelevant: if it absorbs energy, as these examples do, there will be an equal and opposite reaction, which is recoil. The recoil of many of his uses should be significant enough to be very obviously visible.

Correction: The nature of the target is almost the only thing that matters. The physics of equal and opposite means his side of the encounter will feel only the inertia of the bolt movement and of the lock cylinder punching out, which are small if the lightweight cylinder punches out easily. Given that the gun body and adjacent pressurized hose are relatively heavy and he's steadying it, if the locks give way easily, there is not much felt recoil. Also, if the gun vents during firing, that too may play a role, which could increase or decrease felt recoil, depending on direction of venting.

Corrected entry: Late in the movie, when Chigurh is involved in a car accident, the car running the light hits the passenger side. In such an impact, the driver would be propelled toward the passenger side. However, he gets out of the car and is injured on his left arm and the left side of his head hits the driver's window as if the car had hit the driver's side.

Correction: The initial impact would "push" Chigurh to the passenger side, but once the car stops, he would then be slammed into the driver's side door, causing the injuries seen.

Corrected entry: Worst rubber 'dead dog' ever. Shot in mid air, it's stiff as a board as soon as it hits the ground. (00:20:10)

johnrosa

Correction: If you watch closely the dog moves its hind leg ever so slightly, so it had to be a real dog on the ground at some point.

Corrected entry: Chigurh's shotgun is a semi-automatic, yet in none of the scenes where he fires it do we see it ejecting an empty shell casing.

CodeCat

Correction: The gun that Chigurh is not a semi-automatic, but some sort of air compressed shot.

It's not a semi automatic but a pump action shotgun where a spent shell is not ejected from the weapon until the pump is moved forward, away from the shooter and then a new round is loaded as the pump moves backward, towards the user. The weapon is not an air compressed shot, it just has a large silencer on it.

Corrected entry: In the scene where Bardem's character is preparing to kill Harrelson's character, Harrelson makes the statement that he can get something on the order of tens of thousands of dollars out of an "ATM." Really? You can't get more than a couple hundred dollars out of an ATM.

Correction: If you or the bank which sponsors your ATM card has enacted a daily withdrawal limit you can't. Otherwise, you can withdraw as much money as your account holds or the ATM holds, whichever is less.

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Corrected entry: When Bell is in the Hotel room in El Paso where Chigurh is hiding he looks down and notices the vent screen screws lying on the floor, which means Chigurh un-screwed them to see if the money was in the vent shaft, but why did he do this when he knew there had been an incident there where Moss was shot and the money was taken by the Mexicans, why was Chigurh even in the room anyway.

Correction: The money was not taken by the Mexicans. Chigurh clearly has the money at the end of the movie when he purchases the boy's shirt to use as an arm sling. The Mexicans never found the money because they didn't know where it was. Chigurh previously knew that Moss hid the money in a ventilation duct and correctly guessed that Moss hid it in one again.

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Corrected entry: Chighur uses a cattle bolt gun to execute the first victim on the road by putting it against his forehead and firing it. Problem: since the bolt only extends an inch or two and them immediately retracts - we know it does that as it has virtually no recoil - it can't be used to kill. It isn't even a very effective stun weapon and it certainly can't penetrate a skull, much less destroy the brain tissue underneath. That guy would wake up a few hours later with a bad headache and that would be it. Nor would there be an entry wound, just a skin hematoma.

Correction: If it works on cows, it'd work on people. Why couldn't two inches of metal violently thrust forward from a starting position directly against a person's forehead not penetrate into their brain? This entry makes absolutely no sense at all.

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Corrected entry: As Moss runs away after jumping out of the hotel window Chigurh shoots at him. There is a quick flash of light that allows us to see the silhouette of Chigurh standing in the room as he fires the shotgun and we see the pattern of pellets strike the sidewalk. We are supposed to believe that the flash of light was from the muzzle flash of the shotgun, but that is impossible. The muzzle flash would be in front of Chigurh, but in order to show Chigurh in silhouette the light source would have to be behind him.

CodeCat

Correction: The silhouette is visible because of the lit hallway, NOT because of the flash. It's visible all the time while he's jumping, EXCEPT when there's a flash.

Corrected entry: In the first motel where Moss stashes the money in the vent, it is implied that the Mexicans also have a transponder just like Chigurh does (Chigurh mentions this when he shoots the man who hired him). So we are meant to believe that being in that room all night and into the next day, the Mexicans were unable to locate the money which is stashed in a vent just a few feet away from them. This seems unbelievable since Chigurh figured out where the money had been put practically right after he did away with the Mexicans.

logician

Correction: This is a theory - an assumption that the Mexicans are as smart or cunning as Chigurh is. In addition, it is entirely possible that the Mexicans do not understand just exactly what a transponder is and that the beeps on their "receiver" may simply be telling them that the money had been in the room (as if it had left a scent) and therefore the easiest thing is to just patiently wait for Moss to return to their trap and make him lead them to the money.

Corrected entry: I know Moss said it was dumb, but it was more than dumb - if there ever was a plot hole, it was when Moss decided to take water back to the wounded Mexican in the truck. This action makes no sense from any perspective. One, the obvious, is that he almost got killed doing it as he was caught at the site. Two, even if he had not have been caught at the site, if this was a true humanitarian gesture, it should have been obvious it was going to take more than a drink of water for this severely wounded man to survive, i.e. he would have to be taken to a hospital. This was simply out of the question for Moss, due to the inevitable questions, eventual police involvement, and much unwanted exposure to the criminal element out to get him. Also, if by some miracle the Mexican survived, he had seen Moss, and probably would have few qualms about identifying him to the people he worked with. Three, given Moss's later actions it seemed a little out of character, since he put the hotel clerk and the driver of a truck in harm's way without a second thought, and they both ended up dead. Moss's obvious course of action should instead have been to get himself and his wife out of the country ASAP, if he wanted to keep the money. Hanging around that area meant certain death.

logician

Correction: Point by point: One, he didn't know he was going to be attacked, so this is irrelevant. Two, he wasn't expecting to save the man's life, only to ease his suffering. The man was begging for water, and Moss' conscience got the better of him. Three, Moss was trying to survive. Once he understood the nature of his pursuer, desperate measures were required to keep himself alive. And Moss did try to get himself and his wife out of the area; that's what the entire movie is about.

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Corrected entry: As Sheriff Bell approaches the door of the motel room in El Paso, we see Chigurh hiding behind it with his shotgun. However when the door is opened, we see no evidence of Chigurh - the light streams across the floor where his feet should be, but we don't see any feet. Also, the door bangs against the back wall, which it could not do if Chigurh were there.

CodeCat

Correction: This scene is meant to be symbolic - Chigurh is not really there, it's Bell imagining him being there, and "not seeing" him whether he's there or not - that ties in with the dreams in the end, of Bell feeling guilty because he consciously let someone get away with murder.

Correction: Chigurh was in the adjoining room. In the shots before Bell enters the hotel room, you see the police tape covers both room 114 and 112. Moss had likely rented both rooms, as he'd done before. Chigurh has taken out the lock in the adjoining room door and was behind that ready to shoot should Bell open that door as well.

Corrected entry: When Chigurh shoots the wall in the motel room in Del Rio we see an example of the pellet pattern produced by his shotgun at a distance of about 10 feet. Later Chigurh shoots Stephen Root from a distance greater than 10 feet, so the pellet pattern should have been even larger. This implies that the window behind Root should have been broken by the pellets that did not hit him.

CodeCat

Correction: Although it is not mentioned in the movie, the book explains that Chigurh was using small (10) shot so that the window would not be broken.

CodeCat

Correction: In the hotel scene, Chigurh is not using the suppressed shotgun. He is using what appears to be an MP5 with a suppressor. If you look at the windshield of the truck, there are single bullet holes instead of a pattern. Then when Moss shoots at Chigurh in the street, and Chigurh flees, Moss picks up the MP5 that Chigurh dropped.

Corrected entry: Sheriff Bell carries a Colt semi-automatic single action pistol. As he prepares to enter the motel room in El Paso we see him draw his pistol and cock the hammer. This implies that he was carrying the pistol with the hammer down with a round in the chamber, which would be very unlikely since it is well known that that is the most dangerous way to carry such a gun. The standard way that most professionals carry this gun is in a "cocked-and-locked" condition where the hammer is cocked and the thumb safety engaged.

CodeCat

Correction: Not a plot hole if a character is behaving dangerously.

pross79

Corrected entry: When Carson Wells spots the money briefcase from the bridge, it is in the bright sunlight. In the next scene we see him returning to his hotel at night, so obviously at least five hours have passed. We know that Wells did not retrieve the money, since Moss retrieves it later. It seems very unlikely that Wells would have just left the money on the riverbank after discovering where it was.

CodeCat

Correction: Wells did not retrieve the money because he knew Chigurh was also looking for it and intended to use its location as a bargaining chip. Unfortunately for Wells, his plan did not work out.

S. Ha

Correction: Carson Wells did not retrieve the money because he planned to wait until very late in the night when there was no one around to get it.

Corrected entry: Chigurh calls Moss's mother-in-law from a pay phone. When he hangs up the phone we do not hear the coin mechanism cycle in the phone, even though the camera is very close to the phone.

CodeCat

Correction: If he used an operator, and a credit card, there would be no coins to drop.

rswarrior

Corrected entry: Early in the movie Moss asks his wife "When would you stop looking for your $2 million?" implying that he knows there are 2 million dollars in the case. That implies he must have counted the money. But if he counted the money surely he would have found the transponder. How could he miss all those $1 bills (that the transponder was encased in) when they should have been $100 bills?

CodeCat

Correction: Because the bands that hold the bills together have the numerical value "$10,000" printed on them. Moss counted the number of stacks and added four zeros to that number. There must have been 200 stacks in the case.

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Corrected entry: When Llewelyn is being chased by the Mexicans in the truck he is carrying his large pistol in a "Mexican carry" - meaning he just has it tucked in the waistband of his pants - at the small of his back. We can see the gun when he takes off his coat to dive into the river. Anyone who has ever tried to carry a heavy pistol in this manner knows it is very insecure. It is not believable to think that Llewelyn could tuck that large pistol in his waistband, run a few hundred yards, dive in a river and swim 50 yards without the gun falling out.

CodeCat

Correction: Depends entirely on how tight your belt is.

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Corrected entry: When Chigurh shoots the Mexican in the shower at close range with his shotgun if should have produced a much bigger mess than was depicted in the film.

CodeCat

Correction: Not necessarily. Depends on several factors like what kind of shot he's using, etc.

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Corrected entry: The motel rooms in both Del Rio and El Paso have large central air vents, convenient for hiding money. However the exterior shots of both motels show that the rooms are equipped with AC units mounted under the window (as evidenced by the large exterior vent under the window). It is very unlikely that both motels would use both a central air system and separate AC room units.

CodeCat

Correction: The motels do not have AC units large enough for central air, so the window units are installed in each room. However the ducts shown are not for AC, they provide heat from the furnace during the few colder months.

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