Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire

Corrected entry: There's no way anyone could cut off their hand with a knife the way Wormtail did. The only way they could do it is if they slowly sawed it off. Even if he raised the knife and swung it hard, there's no way it would work, the bone is way too strong. But Wormtail didn't even do that, he just placed the knife on his hand and moved it down. You couldn't even cut hair like that.


Correction: Wormtail is not just "anyone" though. He understood the importance of each of the ritual's steps and getting the potion done just right. He is following Voldemort's orders and instructions. Wormtail's dagger may have been magical, or a charm could have been placed on its finely edged blade to be swift in its tasks. Also, Wormtail was in a highly charged state of mind, which only intensified the force he used to "willingly" sacrifice his hand.

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If I recall, it's described in the book as being a "quick flash of silver" indicating as you suggested the dagger has got some magical properties.

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Correction: He didn't cut through bone, he cut his wrist and the knife moved past the bones. If the force is strong enough and the knife sharp enough it's definitely possible to do this.


Corrected entry: When Harry's name comes out of the Goblet of Fire, it is written on lined paper and not parchment. Wizards only use parchment.

Correction: In the books wizards only use parchments, but it is not stated in the movies that they never use paper.

Yep I even think its done intentionally. Barty Crouch Junior intentionally used muggle paper for Harry's name to make it more believable that Harry did it himself.


I highly doubt that would be the case because he already managed to trick the cup why go the extra mile.

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Because he wants to be the only person Harry can go to for help.


Corrected entry: When Barty Crouch Jr., as Moody, near the end of the film says about him providing Neville Longbottom with the book for the Gillyweed, Harry is mouthing his lines (before his close-up). (02:08:45)

Correction: He just licked his lips and swallowed, that's all.


Correction: He was talking to himself because he was shocked by things that Crouch Jr was telling him.

Corrected entry: After the first task in the tournament, Harry's arm is in a sling. But in the second movie, Madam Pomfrey stated that she can "mend bones in a heartbeat."

Correction: Just because his arm is in a sling doesn't mean it's broken. He could have a tingling sensation that won't go away or his arm hurts when he moves it and they don't know why (magic). It's just a precaution.


Corrected entry: When Frank is hit by the killing curse, he screams. The killing curse will kill you instantly, so he shouldn't have screamed.


Correction: He screams out of fear, before getting hit by the curse.

Corrected entry: Harry finds out that the first task is to battle against a dragon, each champion having its own dragon to fight. Since Harry's name was mysteriously added to the Goblet of Fire at Hogwarts after the tournament was announced, only 3 dragons should have been transported not 4.


Correction: There is ample time between the announcement of the champions and the task. All the organizers had to do is find another dragon.


Corrected entry: In the scene when Cedric is going to put his name in the goblet you can see lots of tape markings on the floor right below the actual "ageline" that was drawn by Dumbledore and there's a lot of them. (00:28:55)


Correction: I'm afraid you're mistaken. When Cedric places his name into the goblet, the "markings" you see are the many magical symbols/characters on the stone floor that encircle the goblet's base, under the misty age line - it's about 4-5 feet from the goblet's base (on all sides) to the magical circle's perimeter. A few minutes later, after Fred and George drink the potion, in the overhead shot as they jump off the bench, we see an even better view of all those many markings.

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Corrected entry: In the scene where Harry goes up to the Owlery to retrieve the message sent by Sirius, we see a dark-colored owl fly inside from the opposite window that Harry is standing next to. The owl lands on a square basin but on the far side from Harry, who then turns around noticing that the owl has just flown in holding a note in it's beak. The owl is now on the near side of the basin closest to Harry. (00:41:50)


Correction: Yes, the biting owl lands on the ridge farthest from Harry, but then it cuts to a close-up of Harry, so we do not see the owl in those few moments (even on fullscreen DVD). All the black owl needs to do is move up (about a foot) to the ridge closer to Harry, while offscreen, which is not an unlikely presumption.

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Corrected entry: When the Goblet of Fire is about to reveal who the three champions are the clock strikes 9. But if you listen carefully while Dumbledore is talking it only rings 8 times.

Correction: There is alot of background noise making it hard to hear the chimes. Missing one is very easy.

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Corrected entry: After the Dragon Chase, Harry has the use of both arms in the scene where he opens his egg and makes up with Ron, yet his arm is in a sling in the following scenes - where Ron opens the box with his dress robes in, and for the dance lesson.

Correction: Harry is on a high from passing the task, so likely isn't going to feel the pain while is on an adrenalin rush. When the excitement wears off, the pain appears.

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Corrected entry: When Harry is at the bathroom he looks at the golden egg you can see a crew member reflected on the egg.


Correction: At no point is a crew member reflected in the egg. I have just studied this scene three times.

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Corrected entry: In the cemetery scene, at one point Cedric's head is facing down and to the left, and in another scene it's facing to the right. Changes periodically when you can see him in the background. Also his head changes after Voldemort uses his foot to move his head to the side.


Correction: The change in Cedric's body position, which obviously includes his head, has already been noted.

Corrected entry: When Dumbledore introduces the Durmstrang students, he says, "Please welcome our friends from the north", but Bulgaria is south from UK.


Correction: Dumbledore's statement is correct. Viktor Krum grew up in Bulgaria and was chosen to be the Seeker for the Bulgarian national Quidditch team, while attending Durmstrang Institute. The exact location of Durmstrang Institute is unknown. As written in the book it is "a castle in northern Europe, far enough north that days are very short in winter."

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Corrected entry: Just after Harry speaks to Sirius in the fireplace and Ron comes down, Ron leaves and Harry goes back to the fireplace. In the background you see Ron going up the stairs, he goes into the dormitory on the right, but this is the *Girls Dormitory*. When they all arrive in the Common Room in the first movie, Percy says, "Boys' dormitories is upstairs and down to your left. Girls' the same on your right. And also in the first film, we see Hermione go through the door on the right after they see Fluffy for the first time.

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Correction: This is four years later. It's entirely possible they switched the dormitories. Remember, it's a magical place so it wouldn't be difficult. Also, a number of things change physical locations between the films. For example, Hagrid's house and the Whomping Willow have been repositioned several times. There is no inconsistency within this film.

Jason Hoffman

Corrected entry: When Wormtail slices his own flesh in order to revive Voldemort, he cuts off his wrist before the shot switches to Harry. Later on, as Wormtail approaches harry to receive his blood, his arm is missing from the elbow.

Correction: The length of Wormtail's arm, after the hand has been severed, remains consistent during this scene. It is never "missing from the elbow".

Super Grover Premium member

Corrected entry: When Harry is underwater in the bathroom, Myrtle touches the open egg, disturbing its bubbles. How could she have touched them if she's a ghost?

Correction: We've already seen Myrtle have an effect on our corporeal realm in 'HP and The Chamber of Secrets', when she dives into the toilet bowl in the girls' bathroom and creates a great splash.

Super Grover Premium member

Corrected entry: When Harry is in the Owlery, an owl flies in through the window and lands on a post. When Harry takes the letter off it, it shows the window again, but the beams on it are arranged differently. (00:40:00)

Correction: They are two different windows opposite each other. The owl Sirius sent flies in through one window, as Harry stands by another window on the opposite side. When Harry takes the note from the owl and reads it the window he stood by is seen behind him. The windows are consistent.

Super Grover Premium member

Corrected entry: The "Expelliarmus" spell changes throughout the films. In some cases, it just pops the recipient's wand out of their hand (the way it is actually used in the books), it launches a sort of ball of blue energy at the victim sending them hurtling backwards and stunning them (as used against Snape in PoA and Krum in GoF and is not necessarily accurate), or in the case of Goblet of fire, a jet of red electricity from Harry when used against Voldemort. It works for the film and books conceptually, but isn't consistent.

Correction: The effect and appearance of the spell changes depending on the potency with which it was cast. The spell was devised to disarm an opponent by expelling their wand from their hand. But even in the books Harry used it to expel himself from the jaws of a creature. In the example here, with Snape, you could say he'd been "expelled" from the floor. In the case of Harry and Voldemort's duel, the wands were "related" and wouldn't duel each other so neither spell acted properly.

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Corrected entry: Crouch Jr. (as Moody) executes a huge, complicated plan in order to teleport Harry to the graveyard (tricking the goblet into accepting Harry's name, earning Harry's trust, making sure he wins the tournament, etc.) but this plan is extremely unnecessary. During the movie, there is a scene where Harry and Crouch/Moody were alone together in Crouch/Moody's office. Crouch/Moody could have done anything during that time (e.g. make a glass of juice a portkey and then offer it to Harry) that could have saved him going through his huge plan. Crouch/Moody is obviously not stupid, and he would have thought of that plan.


Correction: True, Crouch could just make a portkey and hand it to Harry when they're alone, but he can't predict when such an opportunity might arise. Voldemort and Wormtail have to be ready at the right moment for Harry to arrive, they can't just improvise on the spur of the moment when he appears. Plus, at Hogwarts, Harry has classes on a strict timetable and is around others the vast majority of the time - they can't risk taking him out during school time, in case his absence should be noted and a rescue attempted before the ritual can be completed. While waiting until the final task of the Tournament is time-consuming, it gives them two major advantages. Firstly, they can predict Harry's arrival time to within an hour or so, allowing them to be prepared well in advance. Secondly, it gives them a long period where Harry's unmonitored, away from his teachers and friends, allowing them plenty of time to finish the job before any possible rescue mission could be mounted. There may be quicker options, but the option that carries the least risk of failure is, sensibly, given the vital nature of what they're attempting, the one that they take.

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Corrected entry: During the film, Rita Skeeter's and Harry's glasses have no lenses in some scenes.

Correction: Too vague. Which scenes?

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