Full Metal Jacket

Question: When Hartman is giving the recruits the speech about Charles Whitman and Lee Harvey Oswald, why would he be praising those men when one was a mass murderer and the other is the man who (allegedly) assassinated President Kennedy, regardless of the level of skill of shooting involved? Wouldn't people like that be the types the Marines would want to disown?

Answer: Hartman is a bit nuts, but he isn't praising what those assassins did. He is pointing out what they were capable of doing, as horrible as it was, with relatively primitive rifles from a far distance. He is training the recruits to be emotionless lethal killers able to hit their targets under sub-optimal conditions.

raywest

Question: When Gunnery Sergeant Hartman first addresses the recruits, why does Joker start making jokes? Does he think Hartman is trying to be funny? Doesn't Joker realise that Hartman is serious?

Answer: Joker, a fresh recruit, is being a somewhat rebellious smart-ass and not taking things very seriously. He certainly does not think Hartman is trying to be funny but is mocking him for acting like an over-the-top John Wayne movie character.

raywest

Answer: It was Gustav Hasford's idea. It happened in the original book that the story is based on, "The Short Timers."

Captain Defenestrator

Answer: It was to show what someone might do (someone with a loaded gun and confronted by their abuser) whilst in the process of having a mental breakdown.

Question: Private Joker asks the gunner on the chopper about how he is able to shoot women and children, and the gunner replies by saying 'it's easy, you just don't lead them so much'. Does anyone know what that means?

Answer: To lead means to aim ahead of a moving target. His statement means that women and children don't run as fast as men, so you don't need to aim as far in front of them to hit them.

jle

Chosen answer: A Drill Instructor is always mad at the recruits in order to forge discipline. Private Pyle was the biggest screwup in the unit, thus creating more work for him.

Captain Defenestrator

Answer: It also promotes unity and brotherhood against a common enemy, the drill instructor.

Question: When Joker says, "Is it you, John Wayne?" I don't really understand this joke. Unless he's just trying to be random, but then isn't he worried he might be in trouble?

Answer: The quote was "Is that you John Wayne? Is this me?" Its a quote directly from the book the movie was based on. In the book Cowboy says it rather than Joker, mocking Hartman for barking out orders like John Wayne in many of his movies. After saying "Is this me?" Cowboy takes off his Stetson and fans his face, play acting a less masculine character that might also be found in a John Wayne movie. In the FMJ scene they of course weren't wearing Stetsons (full brimmed ranger hats) so it's a little off.

Answer: I always thought from the way Joker says it in the movie, that he is making a joke about the Gunny sounding like John Wayne ("Is that you John Wayne?"). But he says this joke mimicking the voice of John Wayne, which leads him to comically add "Is this me?" He is basically making a joke and then laughing at his joke by adding on to it.

Question: In the scene where Joker is talking with Cowboy, what does he mean by "I think that Leonard is a section-A" and pretty much the rest of the conversation about Cowboy's sister?

Answer: What he says is "Section 8," the category for a psychological discharge from the US military. Since they don't care one way or another, the conversation shifts to how much Joker wants to do Cowboy's sister.

Captain Defenestrator

Question: After Pyle's "blanket party", Joker notices that he's slowly losing his sanity by talking to his rifle constantly. Why didn't Joker report this to Hartman?

Answer: Nobody liked him before and he's no longer causing problems for everyone else, so they simply don't care.

Captain Defenestrator

But Joker was very concerned as he was actually friendly with Pyle and was hesitant to participate in the blanket party.

I don't think Joker actually wanted to hurt Pyle - as you said he tried to help him but to not participate as a squad leader would reflect cowardliness, and therefore it seems his hand was sort of forced.

He was friendly with him because Hartmann ordered him to be. He had a moment of guilt before participating, but he still did it.

Answer: When Joker first notices Pyle talking to his rifle, he says, "I don't think Leonard can hack it. He's a section 8," so he probably figured Pyle would get kicked out of the Marines. Besides, Hartman wasn't exactly Mr. Approachable. Regardless, in the scenes right after that, Pyle shows he's an expert marksman and perfect Marine (the sixth general order questioning scene where Joker is the one who admits he forgot some information).

Question: Joker says he drew fire watch. What is fire watch? I assume it's that someone has to be on guard in case they come under fire, but I don't think that would happen at boot camp (which I get is an ironic thing to say given what happens a few minutes later in that scene!).

The_Iceman

Answer: Fire watch is just an informal term for sentry duty (to stand watch). I think it is derived from the fact that he will be the only one awake, so he is the only one to warn if there is indeed a fire, even though that's not the main duty. But that's just a guess.

lionhead

Answer: Would add that the term "fire watch" has a long-time origin and several meanings. A fire watch is someone responsible for observing hot work activity to spot any fires during work operations. It applied to watching for and reporting forest fires during the summer. Also, "signal" fires were once a communication or warning system over long distances that assigned watchers continuously monitored. In the Army, a "fire watch" refers to a security duty assigned to soldiers, particularly during basic training, to monitor the barracks, especially at night. The colloquial phrase, "putting out fires," has come to mean dealing with problems as they occur.

raywest

Chosen answer: It's a shortened version of the Latin phrase 'Semper Fidelis', which means 'always faithful'.

Tailkinker

Question: When Joker informs Hartman that Pyle loaded his rifle with live ammo, Hartman finally realises that Pyle has gone crazy and then tries to talk him down gently. When that failed, why did he start shouting at Pyle again? Couldn't he see that yelling at Pyle constantly is what pushed him over the edge?

Answer: I'm pretty sure Hartman realised he was a dead man, no matter what. Only thing left to do is be the drill instructor until the very end.

Answer: He spoke to Pyle in a (relatively) calm tone. Yes, he believed Pyle to be mentally challenged, but when the Private failed to respond to the nicer tone he went full-on Marine at him. He didn't necessarily believe he was God to the recruits, but to effectively train and adapt their motivation he must ingrain in them that he alone is in charge of them.

kayelbe

Answer: He didn't start talking to him calmly, he started talking to him slowly, emphasizing his commands to him, hoping he would understand, because he thinks Pyle is mentally deficient. Hartman is not a sensitive or patient man, not really in touch with reality either, thinking he is God within that compound. His mistake of course, was not realising where the danger was, for himself mostly.

lionhead

Question: What's the reason why Rafterman doesn't chase after the guy who steals his camera and Joker replies with his own set of "karate moves"?

Answer: Because he knows he cannot possibly catch him. The "karate moves" just shows his frustration.

raywest

Answer: Because it's basically a government camera. It's not his personal camera. He'll just go back and report that someone stole his camera and they'll issue him a new one. Not a big deal for that type of equipment, considering they're in a war zone. If they stole his rifle, it probably would have been a bigger deal, but it's just a camera.

Question: In one scene in the second half, Cowboy and Joker are walking into what might be be an intense fire fight. Do soldiers close the dust covers after charging their M-16s? Cowboy's is open, Joker's is closed. Mistake, or normal?

Answer: It's part of your drill to close it after you "ready" or fire the weapon. Soldiers often forget and it's not uncommon to see them open.

Question: Would the fact that Leonard was overweight have even allowed him to join or be drafted into the military?

Answer: Plenty of people who are overweight, or are otherwise out of shape, join the military...part of the point of boot camp is to get them into shape. Leonard is hardly obese, so he'd be able to join, especially when there was a war on and the military took who they could get.

Question: Joker says he "drew" fire watch. Do they draw for it, and he was the unlucky one, or is it on a rota and "drew it" is just his way of wording that it was his turn?

The_Iceman

Answer: He's saying it was his turn, and it happened to fall on the last night of boot camp.

Question: During the shaving the heads scene at the start of the film, I've spotted Pyle, Joker, and Cowboy with their heads getting shaved, but not Snowball. Which one is Snowball in the scene?

Answer: Snowball doesn't appear in the sequence.

Question: Hartman compliments Pyle after his round of shooting at the range. How could Hartman possibly know how accurate Pyle was from that distance? There's no way he could see if Pyle had hit the target.

Brittle Fingers

Answer: Hartman compliments Pyle based on what he *thinks* happened based on what he saw; this is the same with almost all shooting ranges. When drill sergeants are watching you at the range, they aren't just looking to see if they can see you hit a target; they are looking at your movements. How was your stance? How was your trigger control? How were you holding the weapon? How steady was your aim? Usually, if you're good at things like the aforementioned, they just assume it all worked together in harmony and you hit the target.

Answer: He wouldn't be able to, no. I think this comes under the class of "deliberate mistake", i.e. an inaccuracy that was a choice by Kubrick to advance the plot quickly (establishing Pyle's marksmanship/rifle skills) without an extended sequence showing all of the steps taken to verify how well he'd done.

Question: What is the reference from Joker regarding John Wayne at the start of the movie? Was it related to what Gny Hartman was saying?

The_Iceman

Answer: It was directly related to Gny. Sgt. Hartman. Joker was imitating John Wayne to mock Hartman for his over-the-top behaviour when addressing the recruits. He's implying that Hartman was acting like he was Wayne, a famous movie star known for playing tough, "gung ho" military heroes.

raywest

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Continuity mistake: Pvt. Pyle is on the rifle range with Gunnery Sergeant Hartman right behind him. When filmed from Pyle's right side, he is wearing a white wrist wrap/brace but the shot moves behind him and it is gone. Back to the right side and it reappears. (00:35:50)

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Trivia: While R. Lee Ermey has received high praise for his role as Gunnery Sergeant Hartman, Ermey himself stated that Hartman is an inept drill instructor because Hartman not only physically abuses the recruits, which is never allowed, but also because any drill instructor would have noticed that Pyle was having a mental breakdown.

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Suggested correction: They sure did punch you. Back in '69, I got punched just like that, and I wasn't the only one to get hit.

That does not address the point - Lee Ermey himself regards Hartman as an inept drill instructor. If he did assault cadets, it was strictly against the rules, and how could he not see that Pyle was having a breakdown?

To add, R. Lee Ermey himself was a DI, so he would know a Marine's code of conduct.

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