Joker

Joker (2019)

10 corrected entries

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Corrected entry: A human being cannot survive inside a closed refrigerator for even one hour, let alone overnight. They would suffer from a lack of oxygen and die. "Refrigerator death" is a rare occurrence but has happened on several occasions when children accidentally lock themselves in a fridge or if someone purposefully traps an individual in one.A human being cannot survive inside a closed refrigerator for even one hour, let alone overnight. They would suffer from a lack of oxygen and die. "Refrigerator death" is a rare occurrence but has happened on several occasions when children accidentally lock themselves in a fridge or if someone purposefully traps an individual in one.

Correction: Clearly it didn't work for him as he tried to commit suicide but was alive the next day. Maybe he got cold feet and exited quite quickly. Since the scene cuts after he closes the door you can't know what happened.

lionhead

Incorrect. We see the refrigerator fully closing. When he closes it, it's night and when it cuts to the next scene it's morning, therefore he was in overnight.

Sure it closed, but you can't see he was in it all night. You can force yourself out of such types of fridge, if you have to.

lionhead

So long as there is no scene specifically showing him crawl out of said refrigerator at dawn, there is no proof - implied or otherwise - he was in there overnight. As the previous entry corrected earlier, there is no way of knowing exactly how long he was inside for, and he obviously survived up until the end credits so the entire point or duration is moot.

Correction: It is possible the fridge just simply didn't seal fully. They are a poor family and likely have broken down old appliances. The airtight seals around the door could have been damaged thus letting air get inside, albeit even if just a little.

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The fridge did close. Watch the scene, we here and see the fridge closing fully, it was night when he entered and the scene cuts to morning of the next day where it's daytime, so he was in the fridge overnight.

I didn't say that it didn't close. I said it's possible it didn't seal fully.

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Corrected entry: Joker's left eye make up changes shape (blue messy cry smear) and size before going on the show, then is very neat on the show, and then jumps back to being smaller with the left eye crying look in the police car.

Correction: The changes are shown in between takes with a large time gap. Before going on the show he had redone his makeup and after the show he cried again smearing the makeup again when he is in the cop car.

lionhead

There is a scene he is lying at the car engine, next scene he stand up, between these two scene the blue paint is dry and different.

Well firstly, no, he bleeds so that's different but the blue paint stays the same. Can't blame him for sweating either. And secondly, the original mistake doesn't talk about the scene on top of the car but in it.

lionhead

Corrected entry: When Arthur is suffocating his mother, she is still connected to the tube of oxygen that runs directly to her lungs, so she wouldn't suffocate. (01:21:05)

Correction: Hypercapnic is when there's too much carbon dioxide in your blood, even if there's a normal amount of oxygen. Hypercapnic leads to acute respiratory failure where the lungs can't release oxygen into the blood. This can result in death fairly quickly.

Bishop73

Arthur's mother DID NOT die from suffocation, she died from a heart attack. I was very specific in explaining how, since this was an act of passion, how his character would not remove the nasal cannula set at 6liter flow before attempting to suffocate her. Pay attention to the heart rate and O2 SATs on her monitor and how her pulse (audibly) abruptly stops. Her death is 100% accurate! I know, as I was the Medical Tech Advisor. Michael-Scott Druckenmiller (IMDb me).

Normally we should have heard the asistoly (line) and some alarms as she was connected to the monitor.

Corrected entry: When the Joker is pulled from the police car there is a locking mechanism shown on the interior of the back door of the car. Police cars in the 80's and today have no unlocking mechanism on the interior of the car (otherwise people under arrest could just jump out).

Correction: Every car has what is called a "child safety lock" which can be engaged besides the regular lock since the early 80's. Which, if engaged will prevent anyone from opening the door from the inside (child or adult). Police activate this feature in their cars, so the regular lock wouldn't work.

lionhead

Corrected entry: In the subway Joker fires more than 6 bullets from his revolver.

oswal13

Correction: He fires the gun. It then cuts away to show the third Wayne employee running through the train before cutting back to Arthur. He could have at least partially reloaded during that time.

Really? He's breathing heavily, stumbling. I understand that it is technically possible, but they show him getting up, hyperventilating, pointing the gun at the corpses and then at himself, and then picking up in a rush his bag; at no point he is shown collected enough to lead you to believe that he could have looked for the bullets and put them in the revolver.

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Corrected entry: Dirt poor Arthur owns a VCR and answering machine, both of which were relatively new in the early 80s and too expensive for someone of his limited means.

Correction: This is assuming way too much. He could have gotten these in any number of ways from theft to gifts, to poor spending habits from him or his mother.

Quantom X Premium member

In the day the movie was made, VCRs, answering machines, two big television sets (his mom has a TV in her room too) are as little more than junk and don't disturb the narrative. But if the movie were set in 2020 and they'd watch Murray on their 82" screen in their living room and he'd doodle his thoughts on the latest iPhone, I kinda think that most people would raise an eyebrow about the tale of this family so down on their luck. Sure we don't have access to their bank statements and can't technically rule out that Arthur tripped over a big bag of cash some day on his way back from his beyond-minimal-wage job, but I think there's far more assumption in *denying* that this is strange, compared to just observing that it is entirely incoherent (given the time frame of the movie) with the premise of Arthur living a life without a single moment of happiness.

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Correction: His mother did work for the Wayne's, maybe she saved up and bought it.

Joey221995

She worked for him in the 1950s and had drug habits and abusive boyfriends - no way she'd have saved that much money. That stuff was expensive at the time; a VCR was well over $1000 which for inflation at the time was like 3000 bucks today, and an answering machine was around $250, so about $750 today. That is without counting blank tapes, the expensive movie tapes and this is a very conservative estimation anyway, the equipment alone could have cost 50% more.

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Even that guy who gave him a gun could have stolen a VCR and sold it cheap to Arthur.

Corrected entry: SPOILER ALERT: When the Joker kills his mom in the hospital, the heart monitor that she is connected to does not alarm as her heart rate skyrockets, then starts to fail. This would cause the nurses to come running into the room. Setting an alarm on the heart monitor is standard medical protocol in a hospital, especially in an ICU which is where she would have been with her serious condition.

odelphi

Correction: He could have switched it off. Not the monitor but the alarm. He had all afternoon in her room to figure out how.

lionhead

Correction: Arthur's mother DID NOT die from suffocation, she died from a heart attack. I was very specific in explaining how, since this was an act of passion, how his character would not remove the nasal cannula (set at 6liter flow) before attempting to suffocate her. Pay attention to the heart rate and O2 SATs on her monitor and how her pulse (audibly) abruptly stops. Her death is 100% accurate! All of the machines in the scene are functional, but archaic, unique and salvaged since the hospital has had major fiscal cuts. The respirator, for example, does not exist in our world, with the mask being held on by a metal arm. So the monitor in the room was a local monitor not hooked up to the nurses station. Additionally the scene was much later. I know, as I was the Medical Tech Advisor. Michael-Scott Druckenmiller (IMDb me).

Isn't it a bit silly to have her have a heart attack whilst he was trying to kill her? Seems a bit of a pointless scene then. An actual suffocation would have a lot more impact on the story.

lionhead

But not 'realistic'... a quick suffocation is what's 'normally' shown in TV but just another 'lie'... even Arthur frustrated it wasn't happening like he had always seen. Todd, like Scorsese when I was teching on Irishman, wanted realism not gore. I'm also a dual veteran in addition to working medicine so I understand the realities... Given her heart, the adrenaline spike and other factors the scenario in the film is 100% accurate.

You do realise though that the mistake isn't at all about the suffocation or oxygen tube but about the alarm that isn't going off right? I mean I can understand you being proud of being part of the project but nobody talked about suffocation or the oxygen tube and you decide to talk about it like its a correction to the mistake, whilst it isn't.

lionhead

They did up top... read both suggested mistakes when I stumbled on this site ... and it's all connected with the salvaged equipment... things not working... staffing issues with budget cutbacks... So I figured I would elaborate to show these were not errors or omissions on this scene. I am flattered that people are looking closely at every detail of this film!

Alright then, say, if you were the medical adviser of the movie could you give an idea about what kind of medication Arthur was taking?

lionhead

Corrected entry: When Joker is killing his mother in the hospital, the heart monitor doesn't seem to be from the time period.

Correction: The old monitor was from the 1980's.

Corrected entry: Towards the end when Fleck is in the police car, you can see where his white face paint has been applied for previous takes.

Max Thompson

Correction: Can you clarify this entry? He is wearing the face paint throughout the scene. When should he not have had it on?

Corrected entry: Every clock through the film is always showing 10:11.

oswal13

Correction: Most of the clocks in the movie actually show 11:11 not 10:11 with the exception being the clock on "Live With Murray Franklin" towards the end which shows another time altogether (10:40).

Or 3:30 at the beginning when he gets called to the boss' office, so yes, there is no particular significance or intent. The clock thing according to the director was not anything done on purpose, even.

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Factual error: Based on the films being shown at the theater, the movie appears to be set in 1981. One of the TV commercials shows the Energizer Bunny, which didn't make its first appearance until 1988.

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