Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom

Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom (2018)

10 commented-on entries since 17 Aug '19, 00:00

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Corrected entry: Not one vehicle is secured on the ship when it is leaving the island, a long shot shows this, no chains or anything. Even when they arrive they just turn the key and drive out of the cargo area. Without it being secured, no way it would still be in place on arrival. (00:55:55)

Correction: Not sure where you get that logic from? I've been on plenty of ferries and not once has my car been tied down and it didn't move an inch.

Ferries normally operate for short crossings in relatively protected waters and have different design and load characteristics. This ship is leaving for a 2,800 NM (5,186 km) voyage in the open sea. Not securing these heavy trailers will likely mean they may topple or be shifted around, and that can even put the ship at risk of capsizing. I have sailed on similar ships, and trust me, all cargo must be lashed, and the crew verifies the lashing prior to leaving port.

Nauticalisimo

Plot hole: Being transported from the west of Costa Rica all the way to Northern California by ship would take about a week. Are we to assume that Owen, Claire and Franklin were staying put in the back of the truck the whole time undetected? They would have to eat and use the restroom, at least.

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Suggested correction: Maybe they did have to sneak around but the director thought making us watch Owen sneaking away at night to take a whiz wasn't really important to the plot.

It was established in the plot's timeline that the ship travelled overnight. A ship like this travels at about 12 knots and would take for them about 9 days to complete that voyage.

Nauticalisimo

Continuity mistake: When Claire and Franklin are in the rolling sphere, the door closes and locks. In the next shot, it closes and locks again. (00:43:10)

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Suggested correction: This is incorrect. It shows the door closing twice because it is showing both the third person (camera behind Owen) and the first person (Claire's POV) of the door closing. It was deliberately showing what was happening from different perspectives.

This correction is wrong because it doesn't show different perspectives (which films do at times). In the first shot, the door fully closes before Owen gets to the sphere and before he raises his arms. In the next shot, Owen raises his hands before the door closes and is touching the sphere right as the door closes.

Bishop73

Perhaps your version was out of sync when you watched it. It was definitely just two shots from different angles, if you're watching in UHD on a big enough screen you can even see the camera that catches Owen's reaction.

Corrected entry: The cage housing the Indoraptor during the initial reveal with Maisie was later used as the same hallway Maisie ran down when meeting Owen for the first time. Instead of a cage, it led to a dead end with a dumbwaiter. All bars and floor markings vanished.

Correction: The Lockwood estate is quite large and the basement level would have many similar-looking passages and hallways. Maisie was running down a different hall.

raywest

It wouldn't be a different hallway: @ 1:05:45, she descends spiral staircase into hallway with the indoraptor, @ 1:21:41, camera pans past the cages and the same staircase to show the same hallway with the dumb-waiter.

Question: At the end after the dinosaurs had escaped it was stated that it would become a 'Jurassic world'. There were no more dinosaurs than the US military could handle. So why so dramatic?

Answer: The dinosaurs were scattering all over the country and could nest a dozen eggs at a time. They're not dumb they know how to fight, hide and protect themselves. "Life finds a way."

The relatively small number of escaped dinosaurs could not scatter all over the country quickly, if at all. Dinosaurs have small brains and are incapable of understanding the modern world. Their size makes it impossible to hide while roaming. The military could easily find and destroy them. They are also females, and many are only one individual of their own species, and unable to breed. Although in 'Jurassic Park' it showed one species had supposedly changed sex and laid fertile eggs, that was an exception, was spurious science, would be rare, and it would take time to produce any significant numbers. There is also the lysine contingency plan. In Jurassic Park it was explained the dinos were genetically engineered to lack the enzyme lysine. If not added to their diet, they die. Actually, the dinos left on the other island should all be dead.

raywest

Answer: It's strictly to set up as excitement and anticipation for the movie's sequel. You're right that it's overly dramatic, deliberately so, and that there were not enough escaped dinos to pose a permanent threat. The military could indeed hunt them down and eradicate them.

raywest

Stupidity: During the auction, we see the dinosaurs are brought into the room and placed in the middle. Thus blocking half of the bidders from the auctioneer's view. (01:16:40)

Ssiscool

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Suggested correction: He couldn't hear someone calling out?

Maybe so, but an auction house requires you to have a number assigned so that auctioneer can write it on his log so the house knows who won and who has entered into a contract to buy. Thus they need to see the bidder.

Ssiscool

Corrected entry: So the Indoraptor is engineered in such a way that you take a laser pointer, aim it at the object you want to have destroyed and push a button. At the auction, people are willing to pay tens of millions for such a "killing machine." but in terms of practicability, if you need to point at your target and push a button, resorting to a rifle and a 50-cent-bullet seems more logical.

Correction: Additionally, there's more cost than just a bullet to kill a target. First, you have to find someone willing to kill for you, train them, and even then it's not a guarantee they could kill their target. Plus, you can use airplanes, helicopters, or drones to pinpoint targets and the Indoraptor can attack several targets, including fleeing targets that a sniper might not be able to target once the targets start to flee or hide.

Bishop73

Well put. The advantages of the indoraptor seriously outweigh that of an individual.

Ssiscool

That would make sense if the indoraptor wasn't portrayed as being hilariously inept at killing small, unarmed children.

BaconIsMyBFF

That's a completely different topic regarding plot convenience. We saw the I-Rex kill 8 people and even more dinosaurs.

Bishop73

Correction: It might be more practical, but people are bidding for the Indoraptor on the basis that people are going to be more afraid and terrified by this unique killing machine. If you've got a man with a rifle, several men could fire at him and kill him. If that man has got the Indoraptor with him, they will more likely run from the target. Making the attacker safer for lack of a better word.

Ssiscool

The movie demonstrates quite ironically that the indoraptor is practically useless in a combat situation. It can't seem to kill an unarmed 8 year old girl. The idea that a trained soldier would be so terrified of the dinosaur they wouldn't shoot at it seems ludicrous. People hunt deadly creatures that could easily kill a man all over the world for fun.

BaconIsMyBFF

Correction: Remember from Jurassic World, one of the points made about using raptors was drones can't clear caves, hard to safely do with a gun. Pitch dark, unknown layout, unknown enemy. But marking a bad guy who ran in there and sending in vicious monster that can see thermal and has a superb sense of smell (part T-rex), plus marking a specific target in a crowded area could lessen collateral damage. Theoretically if the indoraptor doesn't try to kill everyone in sight after killing the target. But we have to remember the auction wasn't exactly US Army R&D, it was warlords, weapons dealers, and terrorists. People who may just use it to intimidate others or use it as an execution device for propaganda (Like ISIS beheading people and filming it).

Corrected entry: Velociraptor "Blue" somehow smells an odorless H2 gas leak and also notices electrical arcing, then is smart enough to realise that an explosion is imminent and runs and jumps while being concussive blasted through a window in true Hollywood fashion.

Correction: The OP makes the mistake of imparting human reasoning and understanding to an animal. Blue hears the hissing of the escaping gas and also sees, hears and smells the electrical arcing. She finds both unfamiliar and is unsure if they might be a threat to her. It's coincidence she turns to run just before the explosion, not "leaking gas plus sparks equals explosion...better run!"

Correction: This entry is wrong, Blue heard the gas, and saw the explosive sign, and ran.

So, dinosaurs can read and recognize labels? Since when?

The raptors are the main antagonist in the books and are repeatedly shown to be insanely intelligent in the books and movies. Even Dr. Grant says that if it wasn't for the meteor that wiped them out they could have become the dominant species on the planet in JP3. One of Blue's pack was killed in a small explosion while fighting the indominus rex. Hence a learning experience. It's odorless to us humans. Our sense of smell is us picking up minute traces of molecules in the air, yes there are many molecules that we'd call oderless but in reality it's only because we can't detect them. It'd be like saying that light outside of the visible spectrum is invisible for all species (which isn't true) because our brains are wired to handle that info. Using that as an example because in Jurassic World it's revealed the Indominus can see infrared.

Corrected entry: All these dangerous dinosaurs held in cages and truck trailers and not one trailer or cage is locked, even at the auction later in the film.

Correction: They felt there was no need for locks. The cages were shut and secure enough that the dinosaurs weren't going to get out. And they planned on maintaining watch and control over them and had no fear of someone stealing their dinosaurs. It's like not locking your car when you park it in your garage, which is often also left secured but unlocked.

Bishop73

But surely, if they are prepared to lock the gates at the manor, why not have locks on the cages?

Ssiscool

Character choice isn't a mistake.

But at the manor, they weren't planning on maintaining strict watch over them and/or had more fear of someone could steal them with all the additional guests.

Bishop73

Stupidity: This film reveals that the theme park was built upon a dormant volcano. This means that John Hammond either neglected to do a geological survey when picking a location for his park, or simply ignored it and foolishly gambled that the volcano would never erupt.

Phaneron

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Suggested correction: Lots of people live right next to dormant volcanos. It can be thousands of years before a dormant volcano erupts. Might be a risk, but not as much as lets say living on a tectonic boundary or in tornado alley.

lionhead

There's a difference between assuming the risk of living in an area prone to a natural disaster versus building a theme park that's completely reliant on tourism revenue in an area prone to a natural disaster. If a person's home is destroyed by a volcano, they can eventually get a new home, even if it takes a year or two. If a multi-billion dollar theme park is destroyed by a volcano, it's not something that can be replaced so easily, especially since no insurance company in their right mind would cover any of it. Additionally, the island in this film is fictional, which means the writers deliberately chose for a volcanic eruption to be the reason for the evacuation, when they could have just as easily made it so that the military decides to carpet-bomb the island or send in ground troops to gun down all the dinosaurs.

Phaneron

A dormant volcano is a dormant volcano, no reason to think it will erupt only years after you build a theme park on it. The area is not "prone" to a natural disaster. The eruption is a total surprise. Vesuvius erupts once every 2 decades or something and a lot more than a simple theme park is inside its destruction zone (red zone), including 800,000 people. And that is an active volcano. Take a look at Carney Park, a military recreational facility on top of a dormant volcano. Stupid?

lionhead

Yes, it is stupid. If you put a multi-billion dollar investment into an area where it could be destroyed by a volcanic eruption, it is a stupid decision, regardless of whether it's real life or fiction.

Phaneron

Also, the examples you gave are areas with civilian populations that rely on those types of attractions to help stimulate the local economy. Isla Nublar is a privately owned island with no civilian population to speak of, other than park employees, meaning it is 100% reliant on tourism for its revenue.

Phaneron

How many theme parks are built in California, which is severely prone to earthquakes?

LorgSkyegon

That's not an apples to apples comparison. California has a heavy civilian population and theme parks help contribute to their economy. Jurassic World is located on an isolated island with no civilian population and has to rely completely on tourism to stay in business.

Phaneron

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Plot hole: There was only one T-Rex on the island. When Owen and the others are running down the side of the island escaping the volcanic ash, another dino tries to eat them but then the T-Rex shows up and kills it. This establishes the T-Rex was there in that spot. Owen and the others then wash up back on shore and find the soldiers loading the dinos on a boat and stow away. Then when Blue is bleeding out they have to get a blood transfusion and the only viable candidate is the T-Rex who is now captured and sedated on the ship. How did the soldiers capture, let alone bring the Rex to the ship from where it was seen by Owen back up over hills and rocky terrain? It would have been an all day process just to haul the T-Rex to the ship. It just magically appears on the ship after they stow away on it and can provide the blood Blue needs.

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Suggested correction: There was a shot showing the T-rex being carried to the boat via helicopter during the beach scene before the transfusion occurs.

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Owen Grady: Nervous flyer?
Franklin Webb: Would you ride a-a thousand pound horse that's been abused all its life?
Owen Grady: I rode my motorcycle through the jungle with a pack of raptors.
Franklin Webb: We're not compatible.
(00:21:50)

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Trivia: The way that the Indoraptor portrays itself behind the window and touches the floor with its claw in Maisie's room is a nod to the original Jurassic Park. (01:44:10)

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Question: Would any company in their right mind build a theme park (or any business for that matter) on a private island with a volcano? I know populated areas like Hawaii just assume the risk, but wouldn't a company that has the money to purchase their own island do their due diligence and make sure they won't be prone to a major catastrophe like that?

Phaneron

Answer: As it was stated in the film, the volcano had been dormant for many many years. Presumably even since well before the events of the first Jurassic Park movie in the early 90's. It was only recently, between the events of this film and the prior Jurassic World that the volcano had its surprise re-awakening.

Quantom X

For sure, but dormant simply means that the volcano could one day erupt again, so wouldn't it be pretty foolish to gamble on building a multi-billion dollar theme park with the hope that the volcano will never again erupt?

Phaneron

One would think. But just look at our world's history. Like Pompeii, an entire civilization wiped out cause they lived at the base of a dormant volcano. And then even in more recent history. Mount Saint Helens, which I've actually been to and seen the exhibits and footage of it's destruction. Foolish, yeah. But that doesn't stop us from still doing it repeatedly.

Quantom X

I think it's been made pretty clear over the course of all the films that the people building these parks did not exactly think everything through properly. They took a gamble on the volcano, and they lost.

wizard_of_gore

Answer: The volcano has nothing to do with reality. It is a plot device more than twenty years after the original movie. It is contrived for the purpose of telling a new story. Trying to give a logical or scientific explanation is pointless.

raywest

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