lionhead

18th May 2023

The Avengers (2012)

Answer: In addition to lionhead's answer, there are also rumors that Norton wanted more creative control over the character and franchise, as evidenced by the fact he did frequent uncredited rewrites on the set of "The Incredible Hulk" and also even ghost-directed a few scenes while director Louis Letterier was tied up with other obligations. Given the complexity of the MCU, the producers and studio didn't necessarily want cast-members to exercise more creative control over the films early on because it could undermine their long-term plans.

TedStixon

Answer: There were disagreements between him and Marvel about the contract. It's said Norton didn't want to be clung to a single character.

lionhead

24th Feb 2021

The Avengers (2012)

Question: I've noticed a few times in the film they mention "Phase 2." For example, when Fury is talking to the council they bring it up and Fury says "Phase 2 isn't ready." Given that the MCU was broken up into phases, with this being the last film in Phase One (with Iron Man 3 released a year later as the first film in Phase Two), was this an inside joke or nod about the MCU phases, or just coincidence and I'm reading too much into it?

Bishop73

Answer: Phase 2 in the movie refers to the plan executed in Captain America: Winter Soldier, Project Insight which is their next phase for total security of Earth (along with Stark's Ultron program). It is coincidental that it is the same term used for the MCU itself.

lionhead

9th Jan 2019

The Avengers (2012)

Answer: He doesn't mean her, he means them, the Avengers, they have brought the Hulk on board.

lionhead

When Natasha calls Loki a monster, he responds, "No, love, you brought the monster."

And with the "you" he refers to the Avengers, not her specifically.

lionhead

Actually, it was Natasha who brought Bruce. She had been informed by Coulson that she was specifically requested to bring Bruce with her so Loki's comment "You brought the monster" was accurate.

She was tasked with recruiting Banner in person, and even then, numerous S.H.I.E.L.D. agents were there to back her up. Lionhead's comment about "you" being used collectively is correct.

Phaneron

25th Jun 2018

The Avengers (2012)

Question: In the helicarrier, Loki tricks Thor into the plastic cell; Loki then ejects the pod. If Thor is pretty much a god, meaning immortal, how could the fall kill him?

Answer: So it should first be stated that in the film, Thor's strength and power are considerable reduced compared to the comics (along with others like the Hulk and Loki). Presumably so there can be some suspense. In the comics Thor survived a blast from a nuke designed to destroy an entire planet and he fought a guy on the Sun. In the movies, neither Thor or Loki should be considered immortal, or even invulnerable (Loki even tells Thor "The humans think us immortal"). Asgardians were shown to die in battle, giving the viewer the thought that Thor could also die. However, even in the film, it's unlikely that the fall would have killed him but that he would have been crushed by the concrete and steel of the cage crashing down on him when it landed. Of course, Thor didn't really want to find out if that would happen. And Loki basically implied he didn't really know what would happen to Thor after the fall.

Bishop73

Yep, in the movies the asgardians are simply a very powerful alien species, like Kryptonians. They are tough and hardly age but they are not immortal.

lionhead

Answer: In the comics, Asgard is a different dimension. Asgardians are immortal on Earth, however, they CAN be killed on Asgard. Since the Cinematic continuity is different from the comics, this probably hasn't been put to the test yet, and one can see why Thor wouldn't want to be the first to do so.

Captain Defenestrator

Answer: Loki's plan was to drive the avengers apart and keep them from being a threat. He never says he wants to kill Thor. He even jokes about "testing" the fact that the humans believe Asgardians to be immortal. Ultimately, Loki just wants Thor out of the way.

8th Jun 2018

The Avengers (2012)

Question: On the helicarrier, when everyone is having an argument Steve says to Stark, "I have seen the footage." What footage is he referring to?

Answer: Probably referring to moments caught on camera where Iron Man was in action, like at the F1 race track when he was attacked by Vanko.

lionhead

Answer: It could be carefully selected bits of Tony at his worst moments, like when he was a hard drinking irresponsible party animal.

LadyNightthorn

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