Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines

Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines (2003)

2 commented-on entries since 23 Mar '24, 01:48

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Corrected entry: When Catherine's father walks through the corridor of the military base, on his way to the first test of the flying Hunter Killers, he is accompanied by a female civilian employee who is wearing a yellow blouse and you can see a fair bit of cleavage. Civilian employees on US military bases are required to dress modestly, and she is showing too much cleavage. The US military is utterly rigid in imposing their dress codes on civilians and she'd be ordered to button up.

Correction: While she might be asked to button herself up, there is no way they would go to such a huge fuss for two buttons. Perhaps if she was wearing no clothes or hardly any they might be more concerned but this sort of mistake is only probable, not certain.

Lummie

It is not the number of buttons that counts, it is the amount of cleavage on display. If she showed up in a low-cut one-piece blouse with no buttons but the same amount of cleavage showing, she'd be sent home to change. I know from experience that the US military is merciless in rigidly imposing dress codes on all civilian employees.

The correction is utterly wrong. The US military is ultra strict regarding the dress standards of civilian employees. Exposed cleavage? High heels? Above the knee skirts? No, absolutely not. It is beyond question that the woman in the yellow blouse would be ordered to button up before she was allowed on site. There are strict dress standards for males, too, but obviously they have different criteria.

Plot hole: It makes absolutely no sense why the Terminator, who is a programmed killer, chooses not to kill anyone in this film. In Terminator 2, he didn't kill because John, who was his master, ordered him not to. In this film, we learn that John is not his master. Kate Brewster is. And she spends most of her time complaining and trying to escape from John and the Terminator. She certainly wasn't gonna bother giving the Terminator a pep talk on no killing. So it just remains a plot hole.

Gavin Jackson

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Suggested correction: Kate Brewster told the Terminator not to kill when she reprogrammed him in the future. It's a logical order to give since its mission is to protect. It's likely John gave her that idea in the future when telling her about the terminator from T-2 (before he died of course) who he gave the same order to.

lionhead

I agree, but it is also possible that Kate programmed him not to kill anyone.

That's what I said.

lionhead

Character mistake: In the opening narration, John Connor says that he was attacked by the T-1000 when he was 13 years old. This is wrong. In Terminator 2, we see that John Connor is only 10 years old, as shown on the police computer when the T-1000 accesses it. (00:02:20)

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Trivia: When John turns on the magnetic field, the equipment he uses to turn up the power is the throttle of the Saitek X45 with a Cyberdyne plate over the base. (01:22:55)

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Question: In the second Terminator movie, the Terminator says that he can't self-terminate. When the Terminator is trying to defeat T-X, he manages to destroy himself and her in the process. If the Terminator couldn't self-terminate in the second movie, how come the new one could?

Answer: The difference there would be suicide vs sacrifice. In T2, basically what he meant is he could not commit suicide as it was against his programming. They had beat the T-1000 and had won, but it was too dangerous for Terminator to stick around and knew he had to be destroyed. But he could not purposely do it to himself as it was an act of suicide. However in T3, it was a sacrificial move. The goal of his actions was not to destroy himself, it was to take out the TX and prevent her from reaching John. He had to do this by any means necessary and made a sacrifice play by shoving his core into her mouth and blowing them both up. It wasn't suicide this way, it wasn't self termination. He was taking her out but caused himself to be collateral damage.

Quantom X

Also, after watching that scene again, I'm adding this little tidbit. The Terminator didn't actually die from the thing he did to the TX in that move. If you notice towards the end after the nuclear bombs go off, the fall out ash is falling down around its head and its eyes are still on, slowly fading away. It was badly damaged by its move, but the bombs in the end finished him off.

Quantom X

Answer: For me, T2 was a lot about machines being able to learn so in T3 when he managed to shut himself down it was because he had learned compassion and not to be just a machine following orders as well as understanding how vital it was that John survived.

The_Iceman

Answer: If you listen in the second film, I don't remember if it was cut out of the theatrical film and put back in the extended version or not, John and Terminator are in the desert looking at the guns Terminator says "I have to stay functional until the missions is complete." Once the T1000 is dead Terminator had no other reason to function and thus sacrificed himself. In this film he knows the fuel cell would destroy the TX once that happened his mission was completed and no longer had any real reason to function anyone.

That can't be the case, because by the end of T2 his mission was complete, and he still couldn't self terminate.

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