The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

Question: Just wondering what finally became of Alfrid, the Master's clerk and Bejorn, the skinchanger.

Answer: The Extended Edition of this film shows Alfrid being inadvertently catapulted into the mouth of a troll during the eponymous battle, and it is heavily implied that he dies from the ordeal, as he Is shown to be motionless when the troll collapses to the ground.

Phaneron Premium member

Chosen answer: In both the novel and the movie, Alfrid's (who is not named in the book) fate is unknown. Beorn, in the book, stopped his reclusiveness and became a leader of the local woodmen and protected the area from orcs and goblins. He died sometime before the War of the Ring and was succeeded by his son Grimbeorn.

Greg Dwyer

Answer: We don't know what happenned to Alfrid and the Master, but in the book we know that the Master took his bit of the gold and ran off somewhere, leaving Bard to bring Lake-Town into the re-established Kingdom of Dale. Beorn continued to guard the High Pass, eventually had children and grandchildren called the Beornings, who still charge tolls for Dwarves to cross the bridge across the river.

Question: I haven't read the books, but Aragorn was born 10 years before the events of "the Hobbit", and given the fact that he's therefore 70 in Lord of the Rings I'm assuming Middle Earth years are somewhat faster than years as we know them. So that means Aragorn is really about 5-6. And I know Legolas isn't meant to be there in the first place, but when Thranduil tells Legolas to seek out a ranger by the name of "Strider", surely that's a plot hole or something that has happened in the "future" in the books that they've added to the movie as an explanation as to how Legolas came to find Aragorn. Also the last we see of Saruman and Sauron is Saruman saying "leave Sauron to me " So... What happens? We're kinda left hanging, we don't know what happens between them or for that matter how Sauron ends up in Mordor. Loved the movie but unfortunately I have questions.

Chosen answer: Aragon is 87 in LOTR: Two Towers (as mentioned in the extended edition). The Hobbit takes place about 60 years before that so Aragon is 27 at the time. Sauron is banished to Mordor in Battle of the 5 Armies. You see his "spirit" flee and the White Council, mention he went back to the east. Between Sauron and Sarumon, it's mentioned more in other LOTR books, but Sarumon (while still technically good) has been looking for the One Ring. He does not join Sauron as much as uses the alliance for his benefit hoping to find the ring first.

Answer: The years are not significantly different, Aragorn is simply descended from a race of very long-lived men.

Phixius Premium member

Answer: When Aragorn was 25 he left Rivendell to travel the world, having had his proposal to marry Arwen rejected by Elrond. Hence he is absent during the time period of the Hobbit, having gone to Rohan and then Gondor in disguise. During his travels he becomes very well known among the Elves, owing to Elrond raising him and Galadriel welcoming him to Lothlorien after he comes back from his long travels. Even before, he had served in the Rangers of the North as he was growing up, where he gained the nickname Strider. Legolas already knows Aragorn before LoTR, as Aragorn had initially left Gollum in the care of the wood-Elves before someone helped Gollum escape.

Question: What does Fee-lie say to the elf lady when he's leaving her to go to the Lonely Mountain? He tells her he's something and she says she doesn't know what that means.

Answer: He speaks the Tolkien created language of Dwarvish and says amrâlimê, which I'm told translates to "My Love", or "I Love You" depending on interpretation. I personally don't speak Dwarvish though, so use at your own risk.

jimba

Question: How come it's called the battle of the five armies? 1. Humans 2. Orcs 3. Elves 4. Dwarfs 5....?

John Edther

Answer: In the book it was Goblins and Wild Wolves on one side and Elves, Men, and Dwarves on the other side. In the film the 5 armies would be Elves, Men, Dwarves, Orcs from Dol Guldur, and Orcs and Goblins from Gundabad.

Bishop73

Answer: As per the book, it is Men, Elves and Dwarves versus the Orcs and the Wargs + Bats who were numerous enough to be their own army. The Eagles and Beorn arrived but were not armies.

Answer: Eagles.

Question: In both this film and The Desolation of Smaug. Legolas defies gravity in unbelievable and even comical ways. Is this a character trait, or just some ridiculous touch by the filmmakers?

Gavin Jackson

Chosen answer: Elves are described in the books and shown in the LotR trilogy doing things that would not necessarily rule this behavior out, ridiculous as it looks. For instance, when the Fellowship is trudging through the snow on Caradhras, Legolas is briefly shown walking easily on top of the snow while every one else's feet are sinking into it.

Phixius Premium member

Question: So what happens to Dale and Laketown and the body of Smaug? It appears that Dale was renewed after the refugees of Laketown moved in?

Chosen answer: In the book, many of the refugees from Lake-town move into Dale, with Bard as their king. While Esgaroth/Lake-town has been destroyed and the lake putrefied by Smaug's body, they rebuild a new town with their share of the dwarves' treasure to the north of the original town (under the Master, who is not crushed by Smaug in the book, but does later die in the Wastes after fleeing with the town's gold).

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Question: What happened to the Arkenstone after the epic battle? Also I would like to know, how on earth did an army of Dwarves come to the aid of Thorin Oakenshields when the wood elves were about to attack the lonely mountain? (It's at least not shown in this movie that Thorin sent for any help... And prior to the movie it was always shown as if the entire mission of Thorin to retake the lonely mountain was a secret. This makes me think that it was strange for the dwarves to have known about the retaking.

dhavami

Chosen answer: After the battle the Arkenstone was placed with Thorin in his tomb. It is shown that during the siege, prior to the battle, Thorin sends out a raven which returns shortly before the Dwarves arrive. This raven carried the message to ask for help. The mission to retake the mountain was not a secret among the Dwarves, Thorin had sought an army to help them from the beginning but only the few who went on the journey were willing.

Not quite, the mission to retake the mountain was organized by Gandalf and Thorin, who lived in exile with his family and small group of followers. Dain and other Dwarves did not know, as Gandalf never shared this information with anyone, not even Elrond. It was only after Thorin and Co. Actually arrived in Erebor that Thorin asked the ravens to travel to any Dwarf settlement nearby and gather the armies as the Elves and Men would no doubt come back to the Mountain. The raven was actually an old raven, so he only flew to the Iron Hills to get Dain.

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