Twotall

21st Jul 2007

The Shining (1980)

Corrected entry: Jack runs away from the woman in room 237 and if you look out the front door the hallway is lit up. When he finally runs out of the room the hallway is now dark. (01:15:55)

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Correction: This may be because Jack is inside a ghostly illusion in room 237 - seeing a lit hallway from inside the haunted room is part of the way that particular ghost manifests itself. When Jack stumbles out, he sees the hallway the way it really is, dark.

Twotall

21st Jul 2007

The Shining (1980)

Corrected entry: In room 237 the chairs and table on the right side of the bedroom are dark. When the old woman follows Jack out of the bathroom he walks through the bedroom again and all of these items are now lit up. (01:15:25)

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Correction: That may be because the entire room is part of the ghostly illusion - the first time Jack sees the bedroom the way it really is, but after the ghost appears, he sees the room the way it was when she died.

Twotall

10th Jul 2007

The Shining (1980)

Corrected entry: Wendy's reaction to the old bloodied gentleman in the back of the lobby is great but if you look closely there's no reason for it as he doesn't move or make a sound while she's obviously facing the other way. (02:12:40)

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Correction: Look again. He raises his glass in a toast and asks her "Great party, isn't it". So he both moves and speaks.

Twotall

10th Jul 2007

The Shining (1980)

Corrected entry: Wendy is in the apartment talking to herself trying to decide what she should do with Danny and we see the right side of the apartment as she walks around. Lots of stuff has disappeared since Mr. Ullman's tour, most notable is the lamp on top of the bookcase. (01:31:50)

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Correction: As explained several times already, time has passed between Ullmann's tour and later scenes. It is quite possible for the Torrance's to have moved things around in the days or weeks they have been there. Especially in their own apartment, where they want to be as comfortable as possible.

Twotall

10th Jul 2007

The Shining (1980)

Corrected entry: As Jack talks to Delbert Grady in the bathroom he says, "You chopped your wife and daughter into little bits," yet we have been told that he had two daughters by himself and Mr. Ullman, and we see two in all of Danny's visions. (01:27:25)

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Correction: Character mistake - Jack misremembers and thinks Grady only had one daughter.

Twotall

4th Jul 2007

The Shining (1980)

Corrected entry: In the Colorado Lounge a sofa appears facing, and in front of Jack's desk as he throws the tennis ball. During Mr. Ullman's tour it wasn't there. (00:37:45)

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Correction: As explained several times before, between Mr. Ullman's tour and following scenes from the Overlook several days, if not weeks, have passed. There has been plenty of time for the Torrances to move furniture around to places they prefer. After all, they are going to be stuck inside the hotel for several months, might as well make themselves as comfortable as possible.

Twotall

7th Jun 2007

The Shining (1980)

Corrected entry: In the long shot of Jack typing just before the shot of Wendy trying to phone the forest rangers we see that there's no rug in front of his desk. It was there during Mr. Ulman's tour. (00:20:45 - 00:47:05)

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Correction: Several weeks pass between those two scenes. Plenty of time for the Torrances to move the rug.

Twotall

9th Mar 2007

The Shining (1980)

Corrected entry: As Jack screams from his nightmare, Wendy runs through the kitchen and we see the large fireplace before she enters The Colorado Lounge. We saw this spot before as Mr. Ullman took them on the tour of the hotel in the beginning of the movie and the floor lamp across from the fireplace next to the desk has disappeared. (00:21:10 - 00:59:30)

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Correction: Between the interview and Jack's nightmare, several days, or even weeks have passed. There's plenty of time for the Torrances to have moved the lamp.

Twotall

9th Mar 2007

The Shining (1980)

Corrected entry: After the green tennis ball startles Danny he looks straight down the hall and we see one cylindrical ash tray on the right. Four shots later as he walks down the hall towards room 237 another large cylindrical ashtray appears on the left of the hall. (00:58:55)

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Correction: Many hotels has (or had, while smoking indoors were permitted) ashtrays standing evenly-spaced throughout the hallways. I have seen this many times, in several hotels in different countries. And for economical and aesthetical reasons, these trays are bought in bulk and therefore looks similar.

Twotall

7th Mar 2007

The Shining (1980)

Corrected entry: The production team obviously tries to age The Gold Room back to the 20s in the party scene. But they make a mistake inside the bathroom, which has several late twentieth century air ducts, and mid twentieth century acoustic tiling on the ceiling. There's absolutely no indication that these ghostly apparitions, or Jack's delusions, oscillate in time between different decades and that they are not mistakes . (01:26:30)

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Correction: Except that, as you yourself pointed out in another entry, details from the bar changes between Jack's first visit (1970's setting) and the second (1920's setting). There are also nothing to indicate that the images can NOT alternate between time periods as they see fit. There are no set rules as to how supernatural forces can and can not act.

Twotall

7th Mar 2007

The Shining (1980)

Corrected entry: When Jack walks into The Gold Room the second time there's a party going on which is obviously set around the 1920s. As he sits down at the bar even the cash register has been changed from the modern style we saw when he first met Lloyd to a vintage early 20th century model. What should have been changed also but wasn't are the liquor bottles behind the bar which are the same ones as before, only shuffled around slightly. (01:04:35 - 01:23:00)

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Correction: Both of these could be caused by the gradually stronger supernatural qualities of the hotel. The first time in the bar, the hotel is not strong enough to project images of earlier days, so what Jack then sees is what's really there (except for Lloyd and the bottles). Later, as the hotel awakens more and more, the images and ghosts become bigger, stronger and more focused, thus being able to project an entire party with 1920's settings. There are numerous other instances where this is shown. As for the bottles, they might be a part of Lloyd's ghost, thus looking the same, but as a good bartender he occasionally uses or replaces them.

Twotall

24th Nov 2002

The Shining (1980)

Corrected entry: When Jack is sitting at the bar and orders a drink, he takes his wallet out of his back right pocket. Just before that scene when he is walking into the Gold Room, you can very see (thanks to a short jacket and snug jeans) that there is no wallet in his back pocket. After that scene when he goes into Room 273 you can again see that he has no wallet in his pocket though there would have been no time or reason for him to leave it anywhere.

Correction: This is because he does not really have his wallet when he talks with Lloyd (the bartender) in the Gold Room. Two possible explanations to this: He imagines the scene in his cabin fever and alcoholism, or the Overlook is sending him these images to be able to tell him that his credit with the House is fine, i.e. that the spirits of the hotel trust him and value his service. The wallet is in his room the whole time, and actually contains money (as seen in the scene where Grady spills Advocaat on him, when he has retrieved it and gone back to the bar), but he does not carry it around since there is nothing to buy up there.

Twotall

17th Feb 2004

The Shining (1980)

Corrected entry: When Jack is at the ball and the waiter spills on him, he has a stain on his right pant leg, mid thigh. When the waiter attempts to clean him up, the spot disappears without the waiter touching the area.

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Correction: It is very questionable how "real" the scene is. Jack is delirious with cabin fever and alcoholism, so he might be imagining many of these scenes, and the other people at the party are all ghosts. Either way, the stain is not really there, but the spilling of Advocaat was necessary to make Grady and Jack connect and have a conversation. Once the hotel has achieved this purpose, the stain is no longer needed and can disappear.

Twotall

27th Aug 2003

The Shining (1980)

Corrected entry: In the scene when Jack Nicholson goes into the Gold Room bar and orders a drink, he pulls out his wallet to pay. He then shows the bartender that he doesn't have any money. He leaves to go check on room 237 to find the crazy woman who tried to strangle Danny. He then goes back to the bar and orders another drink and now has money in his wallet.

Correction: He imagined his wallet the first time, and therefore imagined that is was empty (or the Overlook sent him that image, to show that his credit was fine and he was on good terms with "the House"). The second bar scene happens much later, after he has picked up his wallet from their room.

Twotall

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