Star Wars: Episode V - The Empire Strikes Back

Audio problem: In the carbon freezing chamber, Han says to Chewbacca, "The Princess - you have to take care of her". When he says, "You have to take care of her", his head is shown from behind, but the motion of his jaw doesn't match the words. (01:35:35)

Continuity mistake: When Han is put on the platform during the carbon freeze sequence, Darth Vader and Boba Fett are standing behind him and there is no one else in view, but when we see a close up of Han, an Imperial stormtrooper has suddenly appeared. (01:35:55)

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Continuity mistake: After Han is frozen in carbonite, the outline of his shirt indicates that he is wearing a different shirt from when he was frozen. It isn't the shirt he's wearing after being unfrozen in "Return of the Jedi", it looks more like the shirt he was wearing in "Star Wars". (01:36:00 - 01:37:10)

Continuity mistake: Before Han is frozen in carbonite, you can see there is nothing by Leia. When the platform Han is standing on begins to drop, we return to Leia and she now has an Imperial stormtrooper standing by her. (01:36:10)

Continuity mistake: When Luke first meets Vader in Cloud City, in the shot from behind him after he walks up the stairs, his arms are positioned differently from the previous shot. (01:36:55)

Other mistake: After Vader cuts through a pillar with his lightsaber in the beginning of the duel, the hole in the pillar is much bigger than it should be. (01:37:35)

Continuity mistake: When Lando releases Leia and Chewbacca, as Leia says, "What do you think you're doing?" her body is turned in a different direction from the previous shot, and she's holding the blasters differently. (01:37:55)

Continuity mistake: When Chewbacca is choking Lando, as Leia says, "We don't need any of your help.", Lando is standing on his knees. In the next shot, only his head can be seen, but the position of his head and Chewie's arms shows that he is now standing straight up. In the next shot, he is on his knees again. (01:38:15)

Continuity mistake: After Boba Fett's ship, Slave 1, takes off, there's a close-up of Leia's face. In the background, Lando can be seen standing erect, putting his hands on his waist. In the next shot, he's crouching, with his hands in front of him. (01:39:25)

Continuity mistake: When Luke and Vader are fighting in the carbon-freezing-chamber, Vader says, " You have learned much, young one." Their light sabres are held in different angles between this shot and the previous and following shot. (01:39:40)

Continuity mistake: When Luke summons his lightsaber back to his hand during the duel, he's holding onto a hose with his other hand. He is holding it differently from the previous shot. (01:40:25)

Continuity mistake: Widescreen version: When Luke and Vader are fighting in the carbon-freezing chamber, as Vader says, "Only your hatred can destroy me.", the hose hanging from the ceiling behind Luke is pointed straight down, but in the previous shot, it was bent. This has nothing to do with camera angles - watch the smoke coming from it, it changes direction as well. (01:40:40)

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Visible crew/equipment: When Luke and Vader are fighting in the carbon-freezing room, in the wideshot after Luke does a somersault, a crew member is visible in the steam on the right side of Vader, moving out of the way. (01:40:50)

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Suggested correction: It's Luke, not a crew member.

Continuity mistake: During the first scene in the lightsaber duel, Luke is holding his in different angles between shots, depending on the camera angle. (01:41:05)

Audio problem: When Chewie is choking Lando, Leia says "We understand, don't we, Chewie?" A shot later, her mouth moves but no sound is heard, and when she says "We don't need any of your help", her voice is heard a little bit after she starts moving her mouth. (01:42:20)

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Continuity mistake: When Luke is sucked out the window, there are no wounds in his face, nor when he hoists himself up on the platform. But when he runs into Vader again, there are. (01:42:35 - 01:45:10)

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Revealing mistake: In Cloud City, Lando, Leia and Chewbacca are running to the Millennium Falcon, and when then they run into a door after Leia shoots a stormtrooper, a white rubber sole can be seen under one of Chewie's feet. (01:42:40)

Revealing mistake: Before Lando warns the people of Cloud City that the Empire has taken control of the city, Leia shoots a stormtrooper. The burn mark can be seen on the troopers armour before the laser beam hits him. (01:42:40)

Revealing mistake: After Chewbacca pulls R2-D2 away from the power socket, he runs away, and you can see white rubber soles under his feet. (01:43:15)

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Trivia: When Billy Dee Williams (Lando) picked up his daughter from elementary school after the film's release, kids would run up to Williams and say "You betrayed Han Solo!"

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Answer: The short, short answer to this is "Yes... from a certain point of view." The long answer is complicated and depends completely on what timeframe you mean by "always." If you're going back all the way to the early rough drafts of the early-mid 70s (which actually resemble Episode I more than they do the Star Wars of 1977), you'll find there's a cyborg father figure protagonist that makes a heroic sacrifice, and then another character that is a "black knight" villain that eventually turns to the side of good near the end. Just to make things more complicated, there is yet another character, a villain by the name of "Darth Vader" that is a human Imperial officer like Grand Moff Tarkin. It may be a stretch to count all that as "Darth Vader was always the father" but the pieces were all there, at least.

TonyPH

(1) Now the earliest explicit mention on any documented material that Darth Vader is Luke's father comes from notes Lucas made outlining the general story of the trilogy and its place in the larger Star Wars saga. These were found in the archives for The Empire Strikes Back, but they are undated and we don't know if they were written before Star Wars (1977) and carried forward, or if they were written afterward. These were found fairly recently (made public in 2010) and as far as I know Lucas has never commented publicly about them.

TonyPH

(3) One thing we know, at least, is that Lucas had come up with the idea of Darth Vader the father before starting work on The Empire Strikes Back. Something incredibly odd, though, is that the first draft written by Leigh Brackett does not feature the twist (and in fact introduces Anakin himself as a ghost); for a long time many fans took this as proof that Lucas hadn't thought of the idea at all by then, but after the series outline was discovered it was made apparent that Lucas simply hadn't told Brackett for some reason. Perhaps he wasn't sure yet that he wanted to go through with it, or maybe at that point he was thinking of revealing it in the third film. Either way, Lucas would write the second draft himself, and that's where the twist first appears in script form.

TonyPH

(2) Something that must be understood about Star Wars (1977) is that it was an ALTERNATIVE to his original plans of a saga. By then he didn't think it was realistic that he would be able to make a long series of many movies, so he came up with a "Plan B": he crammed the general story of the trilogy into one movie. So we know that when Star Wars (1977) was filming, Darth Vader was NOT Luke's father, because this one movie was IT, that was the whole story. But what we DON'T know, is whether that means Lucas had abandoned the idea of Vader being the father in order to simplify the story, or if Lucas simply hadn't thought of that at all just yet.

TonyPH

(2, cont.) On a side note, you can tell by watching Star Wars (1977) how it has condensed the story of the trilogy. The middle portion has the characters trying to escape capture from the Empire while one of them loses a duel with Darth Vader (like The Empire Strikes Back) and the third act is a final battle against the Death Star above a forest moon (like Return of the Jedi). The first act features a member of royalty on the run while a couple of protagonists find the main hero on a desert planet, resembling the original drafts and by extension Star Wars: Episode I. Because of this we've arguably never actually had a "pure" first chapter to the original trilogy, even though Lucas eventually had the film serve this purpose anyway.

TonyPH

Answer: Yes, however, he didn't want anyone to KNOW about it. In fact, the original script said "'Obi Wan never told you what happened to your father.' 'He told me enough... he told me YOU killed him!' 'No, Obi-Wan killed your father'" Even Hamill was only told the real line just before shooting, so his reaction is somewhat natural.

SexyIrishLeprechaun

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