Spider-Man: No Way Home

Spider-Man: No Way Home (2021)

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Corrected entry: The point of the whole multiverse accident is that anyone who knows "Peter Parker is Spider-Man" gets pulled into this world. However, this does not apply to Tom Hardy's Venom at all (post-credit scene): not only does he not know who Peter Parker is, but he also doesn't even know who Spider-Man is. Him being one of those being transported into the same universe does not make any sense whatsoever.

Epigenis

Correction: The post-credits scene from Venom: Let There Be Carnage suggests that the Symbiotes are a hive mind across the multiverse. Since the version of Venom from Spider-Man 3 knows Spider-Man's secret identity, this would extend to all other Venoms across the multiverse, whether they are aware of it or not.

Phaneron

That actually makes sense.

Epigenis

Corrected entry: The whole "make everyone forget Peter is Spider-Man" spell is a massive plot hole: it is understood the spell works simply by making people forget Peter Parker. In no way is it implied it actually alters reality. Even if people forget Peter Parker, there still is a record of him being Spider-Man in TV shows, news broadcasts, papers, magazines, online videos, documents, police records, news records... There is no explanation given as to how exactly that spell eliminates those too.

Epigenis

Correction: The new extended edition reveals that Peter's face is obscured in photographs. It's obvious that any dead giveaways have been altered by the spell.

Correction: It's magic. If everyone is to forget who Spider-Man is, then yes, reality has to be altered to remove his identity from all those things you mention. It has to, or else it won't work. Because of this reality altering ability, tampering with it causes reality to come apart, hence the plot of the movie. Not a plot hole, but the plot.

lionhead

Plot hole: Otto Octavius in this movie instantly recognizes the Green Goblin as Norman Osborn, a fact that was never public at least as long as Ock lived. On the other hand, he does not react to Lizard being revealed as Curt Connors, who was a colleague of his in 'his' universe but never a freaky mutated dinosaur like in the 'other' universe.

Sammo

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Suggested correction: Green goblin died and his identity would've been public after his death.

Wrong. Peter placed Norman's corpse on his bed and was discovered by Harry. It's not like he left Norman's body in the building ruins to be discovered by the authorities. Harry himself didn't even know his father was the Green Goblin until the very end of Spider-Man 2. Even Norman's dying wish to Peter was to not tell Harry the truth about him.

Phaneron

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Matt Murdock: You may have dodged your legal troubles but things will get much worse. There's still the court of public opinion. [Catches a brick thrown through the window].
Peter Parker: How did you just do that?
Matt Murdock: I'm a really good lawyer.

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Trivia: Spider-Man asking Doctor Strange to cast a spell in order to make people forget that he is Peter Parker is similar to the comics storyline "One More Day." After the events of "Civil War" where Spider-Man revealed his secret identity to the world, he made a deal with Mephisto to save Aunt May's life in exchange for Mephisto nullifying Peter's marriage to Mary Jane Watson. As part of the deal, Mephisto erased everyone's memory of Spider-Man being Peter Parker.

Phaneron

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Answer: No, they are part of the multiverse. The MCU is just one of those universes within the multiverse.

lionhead

Answer: I almost think the best way to refer to them would be to call them "MCU-Adjacent." Both answers nail it - they're not part of the MCU universe itself, but are canonical to it and co-exist alongside it thanks to the establishment of the multiverse. And considering the "Doctor Strange and the Multiverse of Madness" trailer teases Patrick Stewart as (presumably) Professor X, I think we could probably also apply this to pretty much any other Marvel adaptation ever made that was not made by Marvel Studios itself. It all co-exists and is all canonical to each other through the use of multiverses/alternate timelines/alternate dimensions.

TedStixon

Answer: Their respective movies themselves are not retroactively part of the MCU franchise, but since characters and events from those films crossed over here, they can be considered canon to the MCU's overall narrative.

Phaneron

Answer: No. It's explained that they are from another universe, and were sent back to their universes at the end of the film.

gobylo

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