Badbird

7th Nov 2003

U-571 (2000)

Corrected entry: In the film U-751 the torpedoes were shown leaving a trail of bubbles behind them. The type of torpedo which did that was the G7a 'T1' torpedo - which was pre-war issue. At the time of the film the standard torpedo of the Ubootwaffe was the improved G7e 'T2' torpedo which did not leave a trail of bubbles due to a different motor design.

Badbird

Correction: The T1 torpedo was used alongside the T2 for a long time, because it was more reliable, had better range and speed than the T2. In fact, several U-Boot captains preferred the T1 for those reasons. In 1942 the improved T3 debuted, but availability kept the T1 in use for some time.

6th Nov 2003

U-571 (2000)

Corrected entry: German torpedoes had two types of detonators. The primary was a magnetic pistol which was triggered by the presence of a large metallic object like a ship or submarine. The second was through mechanical 'feelers' in the event that the pistol failed and the torpedo contacted the target ship. Thus, the grazing 'miss' where the German torpedo scrapes along the hull of the U-571 could not have happened. The torpedo would have detonated.

Badbird

Correction: Torpedo detonators at the time could be quite unreliable, and duds, where torpedo failed to explode were common. In addition, magnetic detonators worked well only on ships weighing 2000 tonnes or more - almost three times more than a type VII submarine.

6th Nov 2003

U-571 (2000)

Corrected entry: The scene where the German commander orders the survivors in the lifeboat to be shot is based on an allied myth. It is well documented that U-boat crews treated survivors gallantly - even giving them medical help, provisions, cigarettes and bearings to land. LATE (after the time this film supposedly takes place) in the war, Grossadmiral Karl Donitz even placed his own life on the line when he refused an order directly from Hitler that U-boat crews should execute survivors. He won on that issue and the order was rescinded, with only the comment that he should at least order his crews to STOP rendering assistance to the survivors.

Badbird

Correction: This 'mistake' is debatable at best. UBoat commander Heinz Wilhelm Eck and two of the crew of the U852 were executed in 1947 for killing survivors of a ship they had sunk, in precisely the manner represented in this film. Reports of much the same thing happening were pretty common and there is good evidence that the US and Britain were similarly cavalier about survivors - look up the service records of the USS Wahoo and HMS Torbay for confirmation. In this case, the film deserves the benefit of dramatic licence.

6th Nov 2003

U-571 (2000)

Corrected entry: In the scene where the torpedo is running in the tube of the U-571 and could not be launched, reference was made to getting the fish launched before it detonated. That could not have happened. While it is true that the torpedoes did have a 'counter' of sorts to ensure a certain number or prop revolutions (distance) before the warhead would arm, that system was subordinate to another safety in the form of a 'tube feeler' which would not allow the counter to begin until the torpedo had actually cleared the tube. There was never any danger that the torpedo would detonate in the tube. The worst thing that could have happened was the fish would exhaust its fuel and be rendered useless.

Badbird

Correction: These are Americans on a German boat. Do the Americans KNOW that the Germans use the same safety systems on their torpedoes as the Americans do? This may not be a mistake.

6th Nov 2003

U-571 (2000)

Correction: It did sink immediately.

6th Nov 2003

U-571 (2000)

Corrected entry: The old U.S. 'S'-type submarine could never have been converted to resemble a German type VII or IX (Atlantic fleet boats) without drydocking and major work - which certainly could not have caught the crew by surprise.

Badbird

Correction: It wouldn't have been difficult to make the S boat look like the U boat from the waterline up. The above-water profiles are very similar and would only require a few modifications. Throw enough metal workers at the task and it could be done in a night, easily. The S boat captain makes a point of running the disguised S boat low in the water to hide more of it's profile.

6th Nov 2003

U-571 (2000)

Corrected entry: The depth the U-571 is depicted as achieving was beyond 'crush depth' even considering the 2.5 safety factor all u-boats were designed to. There is no way the boat would have survived that depth.

Badbird

Correction: The max depth depicted on the gauge is just beyond 200 meters. The maximum depth of the VIIC U-boat (which U-571 was) is 220 meters.

7th Nov 2003

U-571 (2000)

Corrected entry: An additional torpedo-related mistake: U-boat torpedoes were launched with a ram, which pushed the fish out of the tube. The motor of an armed torpedo did not start until after the fish had left the tube. They were not propelled out of the tube by their own motors as shown in the film.

Badbird

Correction: Where does the film show the torpedo leaving the tube under its own power? I can't find a single example of this.

7th Nov 2003

Soylent Green (1973)

Corrected entry: When Thorn first enters Simonson's apartment to investigate the murder, Simonson's body is laying undisturbed just as it was left when he was killed. Despite having his skull hacked open twice by a metal hook, there is no pool of blood around the body - or anywhere else for that matter. There should have been blood all over the place. (00:12:30 - 00:14:05)

Badbird

Correction: The murder victim's head was never hacked open, it was simply hit twice. A person doesn't have to bleed from a blow to the head for it to be deadly.

7th Nov 2003

Titanic (1997)

Corrected entry: In the film the Titanic is seen with the stern high in the air, then splitting and crashing down into the sea, then rising almost vertical and finally sinking. This is not the way it actually happened. As the stern was rising the ship was also plunging forward towards the bottom. With the ship driving forward and down, and the stern trying to come up out of the water the combination of bending stress and water pressure serve to cause the hull to buckle upwards from the keel - not a top-down break as depicted in the film. The wreckage itself bears this out. The keel and shell plate remained attached to the stern long enough to pull it nearly vertical before shearing away. The nearly upright stern continued to settle into the sea since all of its compartments were now open to the water. The breakup and destruction of the midship section aft of the third funnel all happened underwater - out of view of the survivors. No one could have witnessed the actual breakup and survived. The stern never came crashing down as depicted in the film. (02:35:15)

Badbird

Correction: New research of the wreck has proved that the ship broke apart on the surface and the stern, did in fact, came crashing down. It then lifted back up like a top and sank to the bottom straight up and down. That is why when they discovered the wreckage it looked like it was run over by a steamroller.

7th Nov 2003

Titanic (1997)

Corrected entry: Officer Murdoch may have actually doomed the ship. By ordering the engines reversed he interrupted the flow of water over the rudder, making the huge ship even slower to respond and harder to steer.

Badbird

Correction: With hindsight, no amount of steering or speed reduction was going to save the Titanic. Murdoch's best action would have been to Ram the iceberg head on,it would have caused many deaths but the ship would have stayed afloat. Murdoch's action's were not a contributory factor to the tragedy.

6th Nov 2003

Soylent Green (1973)

Corrected entry: There are two well known but uncredited actors in this film. Dame Judith Anderson (remember her as 'T'Pau' in the original Star Trek) plays the old woman at the Supreme Exchange, and Dick Van Patten plays the orderly at the suicide center.

Badbird

Correction: The woman who played the Exchange Leader (and vulcan leader in the Star Trek episode Amok Time) is Celia Lovsky. She died in 1979 after appearing in over 40 films and many television shows. Trivia: She was once married to Peter Lorre.

8th Nov 2003

Aliens (1986)

Corrected entry: The counter on a fully-loaded pulse rifle reads 300 rounds. However, a magazine of the size shown could never contain 300 rounds of 10mm ammunition.

Badbird

Correction: I don't know where anyone in the movie said that the counter reads 300 bullets, because it certainly wasn't ever said in this film. The counter on the Pulse Rifle only goes up to 99. This is shown when Ripley loads it at 2 different parts in the movie: when Hicks is showing her how to fire it, and when she is getting ready to go find Newt in the hive. There was never any indication that the Pulse Rifle clips hold 300 rounds.

furious1116

Correction: You sure? Cause, to me, they seemed more like a power source for the smart guns and not the ammo.

Sam Montgomery

The video here shows her loading a full magazine: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LY2wGD6-j0Y At the 59 second point, she loads the magazine and the round indicator shows 95, not 99 and definitely not 300. The round indicator only goes to 2 digits.

7th Nov 2003

Soylent Green (1973)

Corrected entry: After the assassin drives the metal hook into Simonson's skull he draws back the hook for another blow - and we can see that there is no blood, hair or anything else soiling the end of the hook, despite the fact that it was just driven into a man's skull and yanked out.

Badbird

Correction: It was a crowbar, and he didn't drive it into his skull. He just hit him over the head with it.

Piemanmoo

6th Nov 2003

U-571 (2000)

Corrected entry: The German commander is depicted eating a piece of fruit just prior to the depth charge attack against the U-571. No German commander would have done this. Food was strictly rationed and accounted for on the boat for various reasons - not the least of which was making sure there was enough to last for the duration of the patrol. If men were allowed to grab food and eat it as it suited them there would be no way to control its consumption. No commander would have set such a dangerous precedent by such wanton consumption.

Badbird

Correction: He could have saved it from his last meal. I know when I was in boot camp, I would often save an apple or orange to eat a little later.

Grumpy Scot

6th Nov 2003

U-571 (2000)

Corrected entry: A grenade exploding in the control room of a U-boat would have destroyed and damaged many important controls and indicators - yet no damage appears to any of the controls in later shots.

Badbird

Correction: It was a tear gas grenade. They are designed more like a can of hair spray, they have no explosive, just compressed propellants to discharge the gas.

Grumpy Scot

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