Jon Sandys

27th Aug 2001

Liar Liar (1997)

Corrected entry: After Fletcher writes BLUE all over his face, he wraps his head in a towel and magically his face is clean again, but just moments before, when he was talking to his secretary, we saw him scrubbing his face with water and he could not get the ink off. That must have been some towel.

Correction: The ink is still on his face, but it's a quick shot. Pause it when he brings the towel down and you'll see it there.

Mistakes aren't valid if they can only be seen by pausing. Perfectly OK to pause to verify something isn't a mistake.

Jon Sandys Premium member

27th Oct 2021

Summer of '42 (1971)

Corrected entry: At the movie theatre there is a poster for the film Now, Voyager starring Bette Davis and Paul Heinreid, which was released in October 1942, months after this film is set. (00:31:20)

Correction: So they were advertising the movie before its release? Hardly unusual, even then.

Jon Sandys Premium member

25th Oct 2021

Squid Game (2021)

Red Light, Green Light - S1-E1

Corrected entry: In the first game, the players must run after 'Green light' is said and stop moving when they hear 'Red light'. At the start, most players slow down considerably and then stop just before 'Red light' starts to be said. This is especially obvious in the English dub, where the song has been removed and players would not be able to predict when 'Red light' would be said.

Correction: They can't predict it, but they're all being understandably very cautious. The gap between green and red is never too long, so they're just trying to make sure they're not still moving when "red light" is said.

Jon Sandys Premium member

24th Oct 2021

No Time to Die (2021)

Corrected entry: Bond was exposed to the nanites at the SPECTRE party that would kill all the bad guys to include the one in prison and their families. So why all the focus on Bond touching the hand of his former flame that was sprayed with nanites? We learn later in the film that nanites stay with you forever.

Correction: Because as is the entire plot of the film, the nanites are targeted against specific individuals. Bond being tainted with the "anti-SPECTRE" nanites was irrelevant. But at the end, Safin deliberately infects him with nanites which will only kill Madeleine and Mathilde.

Jon Sandys Premium member

You miss the point I was making, that Bond was already tainted (with SPECTRE killing nanites) at the party before he went to the prison. What's irrelevant is the focus in the movie on Bond touching his ex-flame then touching Blofeld in prison.

The nanites are targeted per person. The movie shows Bond's DNA profile being switched with that of all the SPECTRE agents who were in attendance at the event. Blofeld's DNA profile wasn't among them, because Safin knew he wasn't at that event. That's why Safin instead used Madeleine as a delivery method, being the only way to get to Blofeld. Bond didn't have anti-Blofeld nanites on him until he touched Madeleine. The nanites he already had on him were only effective against the now-dead SPECTRE agents, not Blofeld.

Jon Sandys Premium member

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Suggested correction: Not true.

This isn't a valid correction. Anyone can say "Not true" to any submission if they want to. You need to have actual data to back up your claim.

Phaneron Premium member

Agreed, but by the same token, anyone can post anything as trivia. How do we know the original post is true? The OP offers no source.

wizard_of_gore Premium member

You're not wrong, but Jon is the gatekeeper on what gets approved as trivia, so that much is out of our hands.

Phaneron Premium member

This entry doesn't look nor sound credible.

That may be so, but since the webmaster approved it, anyone who wishes to correct it needs to have information proving it to be wrong.

Phaneron Premium member

It's always a bit case by case - the member who submitted it is generally reliable, not prone to making stuff up, etc. But I'm open to corrections!

Jon Sandys Premium member

Corrected entry: When Indie rescues his father and shoots the Germans, the one that he pushed over stayed on the floor. Surely being pushed over couldn't have caused him that much damage.

Life700

Correction: He probably stayed down to avoid getting shot, since that's what happened to the others.

Phixius Premium member

I checked the scene just now - the guard who has some lines is taken out without any sort proper fight. I ask you, Mitchell and Webb excepted, when do Nazi henchmen EVER decide to take it easy and live to tell the tale instead? At any rate, he's taking a huge risk that the Joneses won't sway the gun on him for good measure.

Spiny Norman

I get that it's a grey area, but as mentioned elsewhere it's about plausibility, and whether things get/stay corrected or not is largely governed by up/downvotes in terms of whether people reading the mistakes or "mistakes" think that a correction is plausible or not. Someone's jacket disappearing between shots might be them choosing to rapidly remove it, but that's unlikely. A guard staying down during a fight might be knocked out or woozy or cowardly, or yes, simply a plot convenience, but depending on the context it's hard to state which with certainty. But also as mentioned elsewhere, discussions like this are best reserved for the Discord server rather than the comments, because this area wasn't really built for a back and forth, or question and answer session, not least as it clutters the site a bit - more just meant for corrections/rebuttals for specific entries! So I'll delete this thread in due course, but please do head over there and there'll no doubt be some more input.

Jon Sandys Premium member

@Jon I promise that this is the last comment in this space then - but - what I've seen a few times now, is someone correcting a mistake with great confidence. Only, I had just seen the movie, so I knew it was wrong (right arm IS visible, Brody is NOT in Egypt, etc). But other people might vote it up nevertheless, because it has a nice definite ring to it. In other words, people can really muddy the waters by entering an inaccurate correction. Or if not, then it becomes a back and forth. : (.

Spiny Norman

21st Dec 2008

Spartacus (1960)

Corrected entry: Crassus, when talking to the man he makes the head of the Roman Garrison, says that the reason he is doing this is to 'checkmate' his senate opponent. 'Checkmate' is a chess term and as such would not have been used by a Roman in the 1st Century BC as the game wasn't invented until at least the 6th Century AD in India.

Correction: As is standard with historically-set films, the language and terminology used has been updated to be understandable to a present-day audience. This is a standard movie convention and is not considered a mistake.

Tailkinker Premium member

I've never heard it said that anachronistic language is not a mistake, and should not be counted as a mistake here. The fact that they speak English, not Latin, is the cinematic convention. Not that they use figurative language that only makes sense in a future context.

DavidK93

It's a grey area, but there's a case to be made that like the language being updated to be understood by audiences rather than subtitled Latin, the same is true of analogies, etc. They could have made reference to a game of the era, but then nobody watching would know what they were talking about and it would need a clunky explanation. As I say though, a grey area, because a clearly modern reference would be a mistake.

Jon Sandys Premium member

Corrected entry: At the book signing in Berlin, the camera pans from right to left and the guard at the very end of the line of soldiers (to the left) has his left hand raised in military salute to Hitler. All the other soldiers have their right hands extended.

Correction: The person in question could have an injured right arm that he simply can't lift.

lionhead

Exactly. "If physical disability prevented raising the right arm, it was acceptable to raise the left." Kershaw, Ian (2001). The "Hitler Myth": Image and Reality in the Third Reich. Oxford University Press. ISBN 978-0192802064.

ctown28 Premium member

There's nothing about it in the script though. So between the two options, on the one hand (no pun intended!) that the creators were aware of that fact, and on the other hand, that it was a movie mistake that wasn't noticed, well... There's no possible reason why they'd put that in deliberately. Still, Jon decides, and the rules seem to be that behavioural oddities are not generally considered mistakes.

Spiny Norman

But not every single bit of background extra behaviour gets detailed in the script. The point is simply that based on what we see there's no way to decree something like this as a "mistake", because it has a perfectly reasonable in-universe explanation, and there's no point having an endless chain of bickering about it.

Jon Sandys Premium member

So just to summarise: the "perfectly reasonable explanation" is, then, that some random bystander has an extremely convincing prosthetic arm (which serves no purpose at all for he story); and NOT that one of the many "extras" simply made a mistake.

Spiny Norman

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Suggested correction: This isn't trivia, especially since it stars the main cast of characters and is based on the sequel to the book.

Bishop73

Arguably, EVERYTHING is trivia.

KeyZOid

No, anything obvious, common knowledge, or easily seen by viewers is NOT trivia. Also, things unrelated to the film or those involved is not trivia.

Bishop73

The "easily seen by viewers" is a bit of a grey area, because people (well, I) do read trivia listings before seeing a movie just for background info. But I agree that not everything can be trivia - it needs to be broadly of note, although granted that's highly subjective!

Jon Sandys Premium member

27th Aug 2001

The Matrix (1999)

The Matrix mistake picture

Continuity mistake: When Trinity confronts the agent on the rooftop and says, "Dodge this", she points her gun to temple of the agent while his head is turned to her. He glances back, but never fully turns his head. The instant next shot shows him being shot facing Trinity with the gun in the middle of his forehead. (01:42:20)

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Suggested correction: Actually, I think that's correct and reflects how the agent 'took control' of his body. When he took on the pilot's form the pilot turns to the side in agony but the agents face actually appears from the side of his skull. So being shot in the temple then, would be consistent with a shot either to the front or the back of the head. In considering that the victim turn his head to the right when he was 'transformed' and given that agent was shot in the left temple, it would imply that the victim was actually shot in the back of the head? The would we saw should've been an exit wound, but it appeared to be an entry wound.

Not at all, all this occurs after the takeover has happened. The screenshot is pretty clear. He's facing forwards, gun at his temple, shot cuts and he's instantly facing Trinity, gun to his forehead.

Jon Sandys Premium member

Not at all, all this occurs after the takeover has happened. The screenshot is pretty clear. He's facing forwards, gun at his temple, shot cuts and he's instantly facing Trinity, gun to his forehead.

5th Jan 2021

Veronica Mars (2014)

Other mistake: Spoiler... When Stu Cobbler (Martin Starr) is revealed as the murderer, he goes to Gia's apartment to kill Veronica. Upon entering, Cobb has to disable an alarm with a digital touch pad, requiring the use of his fingers. However, he uses the metal barrel of the gun.

John Rivera

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Suggested correction: Touchscreens don't need human skin to work. Capacitive touch screens just need something conductive (that's how touchscreen styluses work), and metal is conductive (albeit likely scratching the screen). But you also get resistive touchscreens, which simply detect pressure, and anything works on them.

Jon Sandys Premium member

28th Dec 2020

Wonder Woman 1984 (2020)

Other mistake: Steve Trevor is amazed at the existence of escalators and the DC Metro, despite subways and escalators being commonplace by 1917 (the time he's originally from).

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Suggested correction: Hardly commonplace - a couple of cities had small subways in the USA in the very early 20th century, and some early escalators, but neither would have resembled what Steve was seeing in 1984. Not to mention that given their limited use there's no guarantee he would have even had the chance to see or use any in his own time.

Jon Sandys Premium member

He also spent time in London during the First World War, where escalators were in common use for both Underground stations and department stores like Selfridges, which he visited.

18th Dec 2020

The Mandalorian (2019)

Chapter 16: The Rescue - S2-E8

Other mistake: The highly advanced and powerful Dark Troopers, when faced with a closed blast door, punch it repeatedly with their fists rather than simply prying the two doors apart. Even having dented it slightly, they don't wedge their hands into the cracks to open it, they just keep slowly denting it...more.

Jon Sandys Premium member

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Suggested correction: The reason why the Dark Troopers didn't wedge their hands through the door was because during that time the door was already closed shut when they arrived at the bay door. If you watch at the beginning where Mando was trying to close the door before the Dark Troopers and exit their station but as Mando was closing the door the door wasn't fully closed but it was closing, so a Dark Trooper used its hand to open the door while the door was closing. If the door was closed then they would have punched their way through. And as you can see if you watch one dark trooper escaped but the others had to punch their way though.

Not my point. They manage to dent the door easily enough. So when faced with a closed door they could have made a dent, then put their hands into that crack to pull the sides apart. But they don't, they just keep slowly hammering it. They weren't punching through, just denting it, pointlessly.

Jon Sandys Premium member

The first Dark Trooper also punches the Mandalorian's helmet repeatedly instead of any other fighting move, and the Dark Troopers try to punch their way through the blast doors on the cruiser's bridge instead of cutting, tearing or shooting their way in. It seems their programming is limited in this way. This is still a mistake but it becomes a deliberate mistake or a character mistake.

16th Dec 2020

Countdown (2019)

Stupidity: Dr. Sullivan not only put unwelcome moves on Quinn, he mentioned the good or lush letter of recommendation he wrote for her - implying he deserved or was entitled to a sexual favor in return. For "Doctor" Sullivan to do and say what he did in this day and age isn't merely a "character mistake", it is outright stupidity. (00:25:50)

KeyZOid

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Suggested correction: Stupidity entries are not for when characters do something stupid, otherwise everything in "Dumb and Dumber" would be mistakes. Stupidities are minor plot holes that extend beyond character mistakes. The fact that in real life people in power behave this way means it's something the character of Dr. Sullivan could do.

Bishop73

You missed the point entirely. It's not a stupidity that a man in power thinks he can get away with sexual harassment, despite being a doctor.

Bishop73

I didn't assert that he thought he could get away with it - he was being stupid for even saying such a thing.

KeyZOid

Regardless of if you asserted it or not, unless someone thinks it's not wrong, people do questionable or illegal things because they think they can get away with it. But characters are allowed to do stupid things without it always being a minor plot hole (i.e. a stupidity). A quick news search of doctors accused of sexual harassment will show half a dozen stories this year alone, showing that doctors in real life act this way, therefore, it's not a mistake for a character to do it.

Bishop73

It is still stupidity... and the doctors in your search were also stupid.

KeyZOid

I'm not sure how you're not getting this, or if you're being pedantic on purpose. There was no plot hole for his actions. Therefore, no mistake exist and the correction is valid. Being stupid isn't a valid stupidity entry. Being stupid to serve the plot is though (e.g. writing a drug name on the arm instead of telling someone your plan). People submit mistakes incorrectly and as long as it's not wildly inappropriate or nonsensical, it will be posted. Which is why there is the option to submit a correction. To clarify, being stupid, not a mistake. A character doing something they wouldn't (possibly because of the writer's lack of knowledge), character mistake. A character doing something that doesn't make sense that mildly serves the plot, stupidity. Something done that contradicts the plot or what's been established in-film, plot hole.

Bishop73

I'm willing to modify "stupidity" to "utter stupidity." [I'm too ignorant to be insulted.].

KeyZOid

Then you're on the wrong site and you should create your own site.

Bishop73

I'd like a second opinion.

KeyZOid

I'll give my opinion and I agree with Bishop73. This sounds more like a character exerting hubris than stupidity. If he sexually harassed an underling in front an attorney or a judge, or even other employees, then I think it would rise to the level of being a stupidity. The current President of the United States has openly admitted to sexually assaulting women, and he did so out of hubris because as he claims, his celebrity status gives him carte blanche to do so.

Phaneron Premium member

Sorry to say I concur with Bishop73, in that people do stupid things all the time in films, and we can't list them all! The stupidity section is just for plot-related issues - sort of "movie logic" things, like running upstairs in a horror film when they should run out the door. Yes people might do that in reality, which would be stupid, but they do it in a movie solely because it helps the plot / narrative. It's not strictly a plot hole, and it's arguably even a "mistake", which is why they're listed separately. In this case yes what he does is stupid, but it's a stupid thing which people in authority in reality do often, it's not solely an unreasonable or unlikely stupid action for the sake of the plot, if that makes sense. I've also realised that's not made clear when submitting a "stupidity", which is an oversight on my part - I'll amend that.

Jon Sandys Premium member

10th Sep 2018

Serenity (2005)

Trivia: You may have noticed that the man who tries to pull a gun during the opening bank robbery and is later killed out of mercy by Mal looks familiar. It is none other than Glenn Howerton, best known for playing Dennis on the dark comedy series "It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia." This movie was released just a few weeks after "Always Sunny" first premiered.

TedStixon

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Suggested correction: I honestly have no clue why I thought this counted as trivia when I submitted it, but looking back, I think it's a bit of a stretch and probably shouldn't be listed. Maybe if it was his first role it would be trivia, but it wasn't.

TedStixon

I'm OK with it, to be honest - might not be his first role, but I didn't know he was in Serenity, and reading this made me go back and rewatch the scene. It's a grey area, granted, but to my mind trivia encompasses anything that makes you go "huh, didn't know that"!

Jon Sandys Premium member

Definitely trivia! Super cool fact I didn't know. He is very famous Now and the proximity of the episodes in similes are definitely relevant.

Correction: The metric system was first adopted by the French in 1795. Poirot is Belgian, and Belgium adopted it in 1816.

Jon Sandys Premium member

1st Nov 2007

Mr. Brooks (2007)

Factual error: Towards the end, the Oregon license plate on a Ford is shown. The plate reads "WIE 1Z0". Oregon does not use the letters "I" or "O" on its license plates as they may be mistaken for "1" or "0". (01:28:00)

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Suggested correction: Filmmakers usually substitute fictional information for addresses, phone and drivers licenses for privacy and liability reasons. For instance the '555' exchange is often used for phone numbers since that exchange does not exist in the USA. By using the 1 and the 0 on the license, there is no possibility that a real license number could be identified.

The "555" analogy is wrong since the mistake is saying Oregon wouldn't use the numbers, so it would be like having a phone number with letters or the wrong amount of numbers (both of which would also prevent a real number being used).

Bishop73

Just FYI changing types is an option - some entries get the type "locked" to stop repeated back and forth attempts to change them, but many don't. That said I've just amended the setup so all members can now submit proposed type changes even for "locked" entries.

Jon Sandys Premium member

Revealing mistake: When the Charger hits the red truck, the truck turns over with the assistance of a 'pipe cannon' (note the sudden eruption of white smoke from under the truck). This device is like a large gun, pointed down that fires a cylindrical wooden 'bullet' at the ground, and the pressure behind it forces one side of the truck upward, causing the flip. Evidence of its use is seen when the passing cop drives away and in the street is a perfectly circular 'dent' in the asphalt with a burn mark surrounding it. (01:12:50 - 01:16:20)

johnrosa

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Suggested correction: A cannon roll uses a large device, usually a metal pipe that is pointed down, but it does not fire a "bullet" wooden or otherwise. It is just the force of the explosive charge focused downwards that causes the cars to roll over.

A cannon roll shoots out a wooden log to flip a vehicle, it's not just shooting out air.

Bishop73

This is just nonsense, a wooden log would be too dangerous to use, would be highly conspicuous on screen, and would take up room inside a vehicle.

Jukka Nurmi

Then you don't know how they use to do car stunts. It does take up room, but even modern methods do. Cars have to be modified heavily and of course it's dangerous, they're flipping a car with a driver inside. Film makers do everything they can to avoid the stunt car from being detected (just the same way they do everything that can to avoid a dummy being detected). Here's a article that talks about car stunts before the pneumatic flipper. Https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a15364815/the-inside-story-of-the-academy-award-winning-car-inversion-device-or-how-to-flip-cars-real-good/.

Bishop73

17th Jul 2020

Rizzoli and Isles (2010)

My Own Worst Enemy - S2-E8

Corrected entry: A junkie was found dead in the park. Rizzoli looks at the file and said the syringe had no fingerprints on it, followed by Isles saying "he died before he had a chance to wipe them off" if it had no fingerprints on it as Rizzoli says then how could he die before wiping them off when there wasn't any to begin with. Rizzoli then States somebody else had to wipe them off for him.

Imemine

Correction: That's her point. The syringe has no fingerprints, but it should have some on it, having been used. The junkie died so quickly he couldn't have wiped them off. Which as Rizzoli then explains, means someone else must have wiped them off - either the killer or someone else who was with him and they'll need to talk to.

Jon Sandys Premium member

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Suggested correction: Which episode is this for?

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