No Country For Old Men

No Country For Old Men (2007)

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Corrected entry: The laws of physics dictate that for any action there is an equal opposite reaction. Anton Chigurh uses a high powered air gun that defies the laws of physics. It fires a powerful enough blast to blow out the cylinder of a lock. There should be a powerful kickback. The lack of a kickback is most obvious in the scene where he shoots the motorist in the head with it, and his hand moves forward with the blast.

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Correction: It does not *need* to defy the laws of physics, since the weight and resistance of the lock cylinder can be small relative to the inertia of the gun and man holding it. I don't know whether a human head provides more or less inertia than punching out a lock. However, the acts are certainly faked, so in that sense true physics are being defied. The same effect can be seen on a pool table - a hard hit cue ball can merely stop dead when hitting another ball of the same weight straight on. Full transfer of inertia with zero recoil. If the target ball were much lighter, the cue ball wouldn't even stop completely.

Corrected entry: Chigurh uses a captive bolt gun, which is supposed to explain why he feels no recoil. However. This only works if the gun is not pressed against something. If it's pressed against a target - like a lock in one case in the movie - he should feel an equal and opposite force to what is being experienced by his target: the mutual forces of action and reaction between two bodies are equal, opposite and collinear. The nature of the target is irrelevant: if it absorbs energy, as these examples do, there will be an equal and opposite reaction, which is recoil. The recoil of many of his uses should be significant enough to be very obviously visible.

Correction: The nature of the target is almost the only thing that matters. The physics of equal and opposite means his side of the encounter will feel only the inertia of the bolt movement and of the lock cylinder punching out, which are small if the lightweight cylinder punches out easily. Given that the gun body and adjacent pressurized hose are relatively heavy and he's steadying it, if the locks give way easily, there is not much felt recoil. Also, if the gun vents during firing, that too may play a role, which could increase or decrease felt recoil, depending on direction of venting.

Corrected entry: In the scene where Bardem's character is preparing to kill Harrelson's character, Harrelson makes the statement that he can get something on the order of tens of thousands of dollars out of an "ATM." Really? You can't get more than a couple hundred dollars out of an ATM.

Correction: If you or the bank which sponsors your ATM card has enacted a daily withdrawal limit you can't. Otherwise, you can withdraw as much money as your account holds or the ATM holds, whichever is less.

Phixius Premium member

Corrected entry: When Bell is in the Hotel room in El Paso where Chigurh is hiding he looks down and notices the vent screen screws lying on the floor, which means Chigurh un-screwed them to see if the money was in the vent shaft, but why did he do this when he knew there had been an incident there where Moss was shot and the money was taken by the Mexicans, why was Chigurh even in the room anyway.

Correction: The money was not taken by the Mexicans. Chigurh clearly has the money at the end of the movie when he purchases the boy's shirt to use as an arm sling. The Mexicans never found the money because they didn't know where it was. Chigurh previously knew that Moss hid the money in a ventilation duct and correctly guessed that Moss hid it in one again.

Phaneron Premium member

Corrected entry: Chighur uses a cattle bolt gun to execute the first victim on the road by putting it against his forehead and firing it. Problem: since the bolt only extends an inch or two and them immediately retracts - we know it does that as it has virtually no recoil - it can't be used to kill. It isn't even a very effective stun weapon and it certainly can't penetrate a skull, much less destroy the brain tissue underneath. That guy would wake up a few hours later with a bad headache and that would be it. Nor would there be an entry wound, just a skin hematoma.

Correction: If it works on cows, it'd work on people. Why couldn't two inches of metal violently thrust forward from a starting position directly against a person's forehead not penetrate into their brain? This entry makes absolutely no sense at all.

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Corrected entry: As Moss runs away after jumping out of the hotel window Chigurh shoots at him. There is a quick flash of light that allows us to see the silhouette of Chigurh standing in the room as he fires the shotgun and we see the pattern of pellets strike the sidewalk. We are supposed to believe that the flash of light was from the muzzle flash of the shotgun, but that is impossible. The muzzle flash would be in front of Chigurh, but in order to show Chigurh in silhouette the light source would have to be behind him.

CodeCat

Correction: The silhouette is visible because of the lit hallway, NOT because of the flash. It's visible all the time while he's jumping, EXCEPT when there's a flash.

Corrected entry: In the first motel where Moss stashes the money in the vent, it is implied that the Mexicans also have a transponder just like Chigurh does (Chigurh mentions this when he shoots the man who hired him). So we are meant to believe that being in that room all night and into the next day, the Mexicans were unable to locate the money which is stashed in a vent just a few feet away from them. This seems unbelievable since Chigurh figured out where the money had been put practically right after he did away with the Mexicans.

logician

Correction: This is a theory - an assumption that the Mexicans are as smart or cunning as Chigurh is. In addition, it is entirely possible that the Mexicans do not understand just exactly what a transponder is and that the beeps on their "receiver" may simply be telling them that the money had been in the room (as if it had left a scent) and therefore the easiest thing is to just patiently wait for Moss to return to their trap and make him lead them to the money.

Corrected entry: I know Moss said it was dumb, but it was more than dumb - if there ever was a plot hole, it was when Moss decided to take water back to the wounded Mexican in the truck. This action makes no sense from any perspective. One, the obvious, is that he almost got killed doing it as he was caught at the site. Two, even if he had not have been caught at the site, if this was a true humanitarian gesture, it should have been obvious it was going to take more than a drink of water for this severely wounded man to survive, i.e. he would have to be taken to a hospital. This was simply out of the question for Moss, due to the inevitable questions, eventual police involvement, and much unwanted exposure to the criminal element out to get him. Also, if by some miracle the Mexican survived, he had seen Moss, and probably would have few qualms about identifying him to the people he worked with. Three, given Moss's later actions it seemed a little out of character, since he put the hotel clerk and the driver of a truck in harm's way without a second thought, and they both ended up dead. Moss's obvious course of action should instead have been to get himself and his wife out of the country ASAP, if he wanted to keep the money. Hanging around that area meant certain death.

logician

Correction: Point by point: One, he didn't know he was going to be attacked, so this is irrelevant. Two, he wasn't expecting to save the man's life, only to ease his suffering. The man was begging for water, and Moss' conscience got the better of him. Three, Moss was trying to survive. Once he understood the nature of his pursuer, desperate measures were required to keep himself alive. And Moss did try to get himself and his wife out of the area; that's what the entire movie is about.

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Corrected entry: As Sheriff Bell approaches the door of the motel room in El Paso, we see Chigurh hiding behind it with his shotgun. However when the door is opened, we see no evidence of Chigurh - the light streams across the floor where his feet should be, but we don't see any feet. Also, the door bangs against the back wall, which it could not do if Chigurh were there.

CodeCat

Correction: This scene is meant to be symbolic - Chigurh is not really there, it's Bell imagining him being there, and "not seeing" him whether he's there or not - that ties in with the dreams in the end, of Bell feeling guilty because he consciously let someone get away with murder.

Correction: Chigurh was in the adjoining room. In the shots before Bell enters the hotel room, you see the police tape covers both room 114 and 112. Moss had likely rented both rooms, as he'd done before. Chigurh has taken out the lock in the adjoining room door and was behind that ready to shoot should Bell open that door as well.

Corrected entry: When Chigurh shoots the wall in the motel room in Del Rio we see an example of the pellet pattern produced by his shotgun at a distance of about 10 feet. Later Chigurh shoots Stephen Root from a distance greater than 10 feet, so the pellet pattern should have been even larger. This implies that the window behind Root should have been broken by the pellets that did not hit him.

CodeCat

Correction: Although it is not mentioned in the movie, the book explains that Chigurh was using small (10) shot so that the window would not be broken.

CodeCat

Correction: In the hotel scene, Chigurh is not using the suppressed shotgun. He is using what appears to be an MP5 with a suppressor. If you look at the windshield of the truck, there are single bullet holes instead of a pattern. Then when Moss shoots at Chigurh in the street, and Chigurh flees, Moss picks up the MP5 that Chigurh dropped.

Corrected entry: Sheriff Bell carries a Colt semi-automatic single action pistol. As he prepares to enter the motel room in El Paso we see him draw his pistol and cock the hammer. This implies that he was carrying the pistol with the hammer down with a round in the chamber, which would be very unlikely since it is well known that that is the most dangerous way to carry such a gun. The standard way that most professionals carry this gun is in a "cocked-and-locked" condition where the hammer is cocked and the thumb safety engaged.

CodeCat

Correction: Not a plot hole if a character is behaving dangerously.

pross79

Corrected entry: When Carson Wells spots the money briefcase from the bridge, it is in the bright sunlight. In the next scene we see him returning to his hotel at night, so obviously at least five hours have passed. We know that Wells did not retrieve the money, since Moss retrieves it later. It seems very unlikely that Wells would have just left the money on the riverbank after discovering where it was.

CodeCat

Correction: Wells did not retrieve the money because he knew Chigurh was also looking for it and intended to use its location as a bargaining chip. Unfortunately for Wells, his plan did not work out.

S. Ha

Correction: Carson Wells did not retrieve the money because he planned to wait until very late in the night when there was no one around to get it.

Corrected entry: Chigurh calls Moss's mother-in-law from a pay phone. When he hangs up the phone we do not hear the coin mechanism cycle in the phone, even though the camera is very close to the phone.

CodeCat

Correction: If he used an operator, and a credit card, there would be no coins to drop.

rswarrior

Corrected entry: Early in the movie Moss asks his wife "When would you stop looking for your $2 million?" implying that he knows there are 2 million dollars in the case. That implies he must have counted the money. But if he counted the money surely he would have found the transponder. How could he miss all those $1 bills (that the transponder was encased in) when they should have been $100 bills?

CodeCat

Correction: Because the bands that hold the bills together have the numerical value "$10,000" printed on them. Moss counted the number of stacks and added four zeros to that number. There must have been 200 stacks in the case.

Phixius Premium member

Corrected entry: When Llewelyn is being chased by the Mexicans in the truck he is carrying his large pistol in a "Mexican carry" - meaning he just has it tucked in the waistband of his pants - at the small of his back. We can see the gun when he takes off his coat to dive into the river. Anyone who has ever tried to carry a heavy pistol in this manner knows it is very insecure. It is not believable to think that Llewelyn could tuck that large pistol in his waistband, run a few hundred yards, dive in a river and swim 50 yards without the gun falling out.

CodeCat

Correction: Depends entirely on how tight your belt is.

Phixius Premium member

Corrected entry: When Chigurh shoots the Mexican in the shower at close range with his shotgun if should have produced a much bigger mess than was depicted in the film.

CodeCat

Correction: Not necessarily. Depends on several factors like what kind of shot he's using, etc.

Phixius Premium member

Corrected entry: The motel rooms in both Del Rio and El Paso have large central air vents, convenient for hiding money. However the exterior shots of both motels show that the rooms are equipped with AC units mounted under the window (as evidenced by the large exterior vent under the window). It is very unlikely that both motels would use both a central air system and separate AC room units.

CodeCat

Correction: The motels do not have AC units large enough for central air, so the window units are installed in each room. However the ducts shown are not for AC, they provide heat from the furnace during the few colder months.

Phixius Premium member

Corrected entry: In the scene where Llewelyn goes back to the site of the drug deal to give the man the jug of water, it is pitch black out when the Mexican gangsters first begin chasing him in the truck. By the time he jumps into the river to get away from the dog, it is fully light out.

Correction: Yes, because Llewelyn went back in the early hours of the morning, like 4 AM or so, just before the sunrise. There's enough time for the man in the truck to die from his injuries while Llewelyn is searching through the site, and he is interrupted by the gangsters arriving back on scene. It is starting to get light out already when the gangsters arrive, and is entirely possible for it to be completely light out by the time he jumps in the river, since the sun rises above the horizon quickly in the desert.

Corrected entry: At the start of the movie, Sheriff Tom Bell talks about how when he became a sheriff his father was still a sheriff, and both were sheriffs at the same time. However, at the end Bell is describing a dream with his father in it, and states that his father was 20 years younger than he is now when the father died, so his father is the younger man in the dream. If the father died 20 years younger than Bell is now, he could not have still been alive and a sheriff when Bell became a sheriff.

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Correction: Bell's precise age is not given in the film, but, based on the age of Tommy Lee Jones at the time the film was made, it's reasonable to state that Bell is in his early-to-mid sixties. He states that he's lived twenty years longer than his father, putting his father in his early-to-mid forties when he died. If the two were sheriffs at the same time, and we assume that Bell was twenty-five when he became sheriff (which is not what he specifically says, only that he was a sheriff when he was that age), that would mean an age difference between father and son of around eighteen years. This is relatively early to become a father, but hardly implausibly so.

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Corrected entry: By the time the action reaches El Paso, Anton Chigurh has killed 11 people (deputy, 1st motorist, 2 drug dealers in desert, hotel desk clerk, 3 Mexicans in hotel, pickup truck driver, chicken truck driver, Carson Wells) including a sheriff's deputy. There were also several additional murders in the desert in the beginning. Yet there is no massive manhunt, just old Sheriff Tom Bell alone hunting for him. There should have been a major police presence hunting him.

Correction: This sort of thing comes under the category of we don't see everything going behind the scenes. First, we don't see enough outside of the Sheriff's world. We don't know what other authorities such as the FBI are up to so they might be on to him but might not. Secondly whether the authorities were linking up that all the murders were connected is left unknown. Maybe same gun but no specific M.O. Finally Anton was almost like a ghost leaving little to no trace behind of him. Even if they were on a manhunt, what would they look for? A man who has killed virtually everyone who has taken a good look at him, no real physical evidence and perhaps no background file on him.

Lummie Premium member

Corrected entry: In the scene where Moss is waiting to ambush Chigurh after crashing the truck, he shoots Chigurh in the leg and picks up his specially modified pump action shotgun with the silver silencer. Yet when Chigurh approaches Carson Wells in the hotel lobby, he has that gun back.

Correction: Watch the film again: Moss doesn't take the shotgun from Chigurh, but a small SMG. Chigurh might have used the shotgun at the Motel, but he definitely takes out this small SMG to look for Moss at the scene of the accident. Check out timecodes 1:01:17 and 1:02:02 on the DVD to verify this.

Corrected entry: In the scene where Lewelly gives his fiance a lift to the bus, the interior of the bus looks totally 1990s. Especially telling: the seat fabric and design wasn't used until the early 1990s.

Correction: This type of mistake is impossible to verify. It's one thing to make a claim that say a certain object, material might not be invented or available at the time a film is set. However to say a fabric and design wasn't used is far too broad and borders more on opinion than fact.

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Corrected entry: Colonel offers Chigur money from an ATM. Pretty sure that wasn't an option in 1980.

Correction: Why not? ATMs have been around in Texas since 1968, so it was definitely an option to use one in 1980.

Twotall

Corrected entry: If Anton Chigurgh is such an "ultimate bad ass," then why would he allow himself to be placed in handcuffs at the beginning of the film? I only saw one officer on scene with Anton. If there were several officers, then it would make better sense. But one officer in the middle of nowhere with the "ultimate bad ass," Anton, doesn't make sense.

Correction: Characters are free to make their own choices and unless he contradicted something it is a character choice. As for why he went peacefully, this was a much simpler plan than going on some high speed chase. At the end of the day there was little if anything to charge him with. If he had sped off it might have meant other officers joining to help pursue him and put him in danger of getting locked up for evading the authorities.

Lummie Premium member

Corrected entry: The first motel where Josh Brolin hides out advertises "Free HBO" on its sign (I believe it was best shown in the scene where Brolin is in the cab and chooses to drive by). While HBO may have existed as a company in 1980, it was not widely used or known at the time (let alone available and affordable to a cheap motel in rural Texas).

Correction: HBO began in 1972 and was widespread by 1975. Through the late 1970s, everybody I knew was watching HBO, and I recall many a motel advertising it on their signs near my home town, long before the events of this film.

johnrosa

Corrected entry: The wealthy businessman sets Woody Harrelson up with a bank account for his expenses accessible via ATM. ATMs did not come to big cities until the mid-80s, let alone the remote areas Woody's pursuit of Javier Bardem would undoubtedly be taking him.

Correction: Not true. There were over 2000 ATMs around the USA in 1974- six years before the events of this film. Big cities would be the first places to find them, and wherever Woody's character might have to drive or fly to track Javier, he'd likely pass near one sooner or later. If nothing else, it's one more option available to him.

johnrosa

Corrected entry: Chigurh sucks up a small amount of fluid in the syringe, but injects a full syringe when patching himself up in a hotel.

Correction: He injects himself twice, first with lidocaine (an anesthetic, to numb the area he's about to work on), then later with a full syringe of something unknown, but probably an IV antibiotic as that much of a pain killer, like morphine, would kill him. We never see him draw the second syringe, only the first one.

Corrected entry: After lewelen is in the hospital, he crosses the border and goes to buy some clothes. How does he pay for the clothes? He is wearing his hospital gown (not the pants he put some of the stolen money in the pockets of). He does not have the bag with him either, so he could not have had any money with him. It is highly unlikely that he got his pants from the hospital before he left, because he would have just gotten the clothes, too. Even if he wanted to buy some clothes that were not bloody, he would have worn the bloody clothes to the store. It is also unlikely that he pre-paid for another set of clothes when he went to the store the first time, as he had no way of knowing he would need another set of clothes.

Correction: The clothes he was wearing when he was brought to the hospital would have been cut off with scissors. This is standard procedure when a person is in critical condition. The cut up clothes would be kept as the patient's personal effects. They would be impossible to wear, but he could get the money from his pockets.

Corrected entry: Josh Brolin searches through the case of money and finds the homing device and sets it on the night stand. He then hears the approaching Chigurh. He gets his gun and sets himself on the bed facing the door. He is not shown closing the case nor does he have time to fold the tops together, thread the handle through, and snap the left and right locks. But, when he makes a quick escape out the back window, the money case is securely closed. Most of this scene the camera is on Brolin. Occasionally we see the door. We do not see Brolin close and lock the case nor do we hear the snaps of the case being locked.

Correction: Time compression has been used. They didn't show him reclosing the case, nor did they show him putting the money that was not cut out back in the case, and we don't see any of that cut money left out. From the time he took out the transmitter, got his gun ready, and sat on the bed, there are a lot of steps missing, so we have to accept that time compression was used.

Corrected entry: In the scene in El Paso at the Desert Sands motel, a Carl's Jr. is seen down the street behind Josh Brolin. It contains the star symbol on ths sign, which the restaurant didn't start using until the 90's after acquiring Hardee's. The movie is set in 1980.

Correction: The Happy Star symbol has been the logo for Carl's Jr. since the 1956.

Corrected entry: The playbill of the movie shows Josh Brolin escaping from the Mexican killers with his rifle and the case with the money. This never happens in the movie. When we see him both with money and rifle, he's simply returning to his car; when he's running from the killers he's got neither his rifle nor the case.

Correction: Differences between movie posters, DVD covers or any form of advertising are not considered a mistake in the movie.

Corrected entry: In the scene at the motel where Chigurh enters the motel room that Josh Brolin was originally renting, the door shows as room 130 but earlier in the office we see that the room was actually room 138.

Correction: Two different rooms. Chigurh determines that the money is in Room 138. But he rents Room 130, presumably to get a sense of the layout - as it's identical to 138. The Mexicans are actually waiting for Moss in Room 138.

JC Fernandez

Corrected entry: In the first motel room when Llewelyn pushes the case into the air vent, he forces it to the left at the junction so that the handle of the case is not visible. Later, when he retreives it from the room behind, it is on the right-hand side, from his perspective, with the handle visible. The way he originally positioned it in the vent, it should have been on the left side when viewed from the second room.

Correction: He retrieves the case from the room on the opposite side, so everything is reversed. That means from this room the case would be on the right side, not the left.

Jason Hoffman

Corrected entry: When Chigurh pulls the driver over at the beginning of the film and murders him with the cattlegun, a mist of blood emerges at the back of the man's head, presumably from the exit wound. However, Sheriff Bell later states that there was no exit wound.

Correction: The mist of blood comes from the front of the man's head. The man's head is knocked back and then comes forward, leaving a cloud of mist near the back of his head.

Corrected entry: Though the film is set in 1980, a number of the period vehicles are of a much later vintage.

Correction: This is too vague. Please specify when and where in the film these vehicles can be seen.

Jason Hoffman

Corrected entry: Moss loses his boots during his escape in the desert; he rips his shirt up and wraps them around his feet. But when he gets back home that night and his wife finds him under the trailer, he is wearing boots again.

Correction: At a first glance this may appear to be the case, but if you look a little closer you will see that he is simply wearing very dirty white socks as would be expected after diving into a river and walking a great distance through a desert in them.

Cnyvek

Corrected entry: In the scene in which the psychopath enters the residence, he bends down to pick up the mail on the floor (as if it had been dropped in through a mail slot in the door). But when he swings the door shut, there is no mail slot on the door so the mail would have no reason to be on the floor.

Correction: How is this a mistake? The mail had been slid under the crack in the door, something very common for residences with no mailbox or mailslot.

Corrected entry: In the scene where Josh Brolin has just landed on shore and pulls his pistol to shoot the pit bull, he racks the slide on his pistol and ejects an unfired round.

Correction: If you did that, and there was a round in the chamber, that is what would happen.

pross79

Corrected entry: Josh Brolin hides the bag of cash in the air vent in one hotel room, then later retrieves it from the air vent in the room next door. This was impossible. The air vents were in the center of each room. That would mean they were approximately 10 to 15 feet apart. Josh Brolin slides the money bag to the back of the air vent in the first room and then nudges it to the left down the perpendicular connecting air vent. Then when he returns he gets the room next door, takes down the grate of this air vent and looks in and sees the money bag at the back of the air shaft. If it is visible at the back of the first air shaft it could not be seen at the back of the air vent in the room next door.

Correction: He doesn't retrieve it from the room next door. He retrieves it from the room *behind* it (on the other side of the bathroom wall), making it quite possible to be retrieved.

JC Fernandez

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