Saw

Question: How exactly was Adam supposed to win the game? We know the Doctor had to kill Adam before 6 to live, but how was Adam meant to get out? Was he there solely for the Doctor to kill or was there a way out for him that I've missed?

Chosen answer: Amanda was supposed to put the key around Adam's neck rather than just on his chest. If she had done so as instructed by Jigsaw, he would've been able to unlock his shackle and leave the bathroom. Adam was a voyeur, the irony being that if his key had been placed correctly around his neck, all he would've had to do would be to look around to find it. Adam's tape states, "what do voyeurs see when they look into the mirror, " so, again, it's a hint that all Adam would've had to do was look at himself. I noticed as well, Jigsaw says, "the key to that chain is in the bathtub." /IS/ in the bathtub. Not /was/. So Jigsaw probably thought Adam could still get out. He says, "so many people are ungrateful to be alive. But not you. Not anymore." So it's like, 'I have taught you this lesson, now you can go free because now you'll appreciate your life unlike you did before'.

Answer: Adam was never supposed to win, I don't recall which movie, I believe it be the 5th where John is talking to Amanda and says how her games were rigged and impossible to win, and Adam and Lawrence were part of Amanda's game.

Question: This is a question regarding the scene where Ali tells Dr. Gordon over the phone to not believe Adam's lies. How does Ali know about Adam in the first place? From what you gather, it is only Detective Tapp that knows Adam since he was the one who paid Adam in secret to follow and take pictures of Dr. Gordon. So, was it Zep that told Ali about Adam? If so, how did Zep know about Adam? From Jigsaw? Any further details would be appreciated. Thanks.

mrbench71

Chosen answer: Yes. You pretty much guessed correctly. We can assume that Jigsaw told Zep to tell Ali to tell Dr Gordon, "do not believe Adam's lies..." Don't forget that Jigsaw spends hours planning his tests so it would be safe to say that he had planned it all in the beginning.

Question: This question applies to the whole series. Why do some of the people who actually manage to survive Jigsaw's traps end up working with him instead of either helping capture him or killing him and insuring that no more innocent people get killed?

Chosen answer: Jigsaw's traps would more than likely leave a person mentally unstable, which could result in Stockholm Syndrome, a condition which involves a victim sympathising with their captor. In fact, after Lawrence Gordon escapes the bathroom after severing his own foot, Jigsaw nursed him back to full health, thus gaining his trust (this is shown in Saw VII). He also plays mind games on people, which is shown in a flashback in Saw III in which he convinced Amanda to side with him. In her unstable state of mind, she realised that he was the first person in her life she could actually relate to, and thus became an accomplice.

EK8829

Question: Why does Dr. Gordan cut his leg while he didn't know that door was unlocked or not? This question is also for Eric in Saw -2.

Chosen answer: Well, there's only one way to find out whether or not it's locked...

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Question: How is it known that Amanda was supposed to put the key around Adam's neck?

Answer: Since she was helping Jigsaw with his "game", chances are he told her to do it.

Answer: Everything is meticulously planned out by jigssw. He is extremely methodical and would have told Amanda exactly what needs to be done.

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Question: My gripe is why did the doctor cut off his foot to get to the phone/gun? He was of mind enough to use his shirt to tie around his leg - why not use his shirt to retrieve the phone/gun. Also can't mobile phones set to receive only still make calls to directory enquiries and emergency services?

Chosen answer: It is doubtful there can be a precise correct answer to this, unless you happen to be the screenwriter. However, it can be presumed that the doctor resorted to the skills he had down cold, almost automatic, as opposed to attempting any further creative problem-solving because he was at his wits' end, in a very traumatic situation. He knows how to tourniquet and amputate.

Rooster of Doom

Answer: Dr Gordon had been mentally abused for close to 8 hours by this point. As the situation got more grave he resorts to more drastic (and quicker) methods to try and win his game to save his family. We are shown throughout later films that FBI agent Hoffman (who doesn't appear on screen until Saw 3) is working with Jigsaw at this point already, so has access to high end tech. Enough to manipulate a phone's abilities.

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Answer: So he could escape.

Question: What is the point of John/Jigsaw being in the room with Adam and Dr. Gordon? If some one can fill me in that would be great.

Chosen answer: He was able to observe the 2 and make sure that the followed the rules. Example would be when Dr. Gordon pretended to kill Adam. Zep couldn't tell if it was real or not, but Jigsaw was right there and knew. Plus, there's a clue in the movie, when the dective says "Looks like out killer likes to book himself front row seats." Jigsaw wanted to see how people reacted when their lives were on the line.

Nick Bylsma

Question: When loading the bullet into the gun, why didn't they realise that the chambers of the revolver were empty of any spent cartridges? They could have easily concluded that the "corpse" wasn't dead and the film would have ended quite differently.

Freefall1984

Chosen answer: First, odds are neither of them had much experience with guns. They wouldn't necessarily think about it. Second, who's to say that the person who put them there wouldn't have removed it anyway.

Greg Dwyer

Question: When Lawrence is going crazy, he tries to reach the ringing phone using the box he found it in. When this fails, it motivates him to saw through his foot. Since the box was just out of reach, why didn't he pull the phone towards him using the saw (just like Adam tried at the beginning of the movie, with the cassette player)? This couldn't possibly have failed, though. If he had, he could have answered the phone and probably gotten help that way. It would have saved him a lot of trouble and pain. Someone please enlighten me.

Eyexpress333

Chosen answer: First, it's because he was very distraught. Simply reaching the phone wasn't going to help him help his wife. Second, because it was the major plot point the entire movie has been building up to.

LorgSkyegon

Question: Why is Amanda the only Jigsaw victim who never has to harm herself to win the game, but kill another, making her game easier to win than the others?

Answer: She's technically not. A number of others have been put in traps/games where they don't necessarily have to meet physical harm throughout the series, including this film. Amanda's game is based more around emotional turmoil and a time-limit, which are tactics Jigsaw often uses either instead of or in conjunction with physical torment.

Answer: She's actually not. Dr. Gordon could have won his game without mutilating himself by killing Adam. And as for why she doesn't have to harm herself, since she has a large device rigged around her head with the lock attached at the back, Jigsaw may have decided it would be more fair to her to not have to mutilate herself to get the key.

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Question: How was the guy in Amanda Young's original game supposed to survive? He was sedated and couldn't really move enough, so how was he supposed to get out of being stabbed?

Answer: Yes, he was meant to die. It was Amanda's test not his. Just like in alll the other movies those who are being tested are often responsible for the death of others who don't have a choice in the matter (Saw VI for example when the guy has to choose which coworker is hung and which isn't).

Question: Why didn't Zep (a hospital orderly) go to a poison control centre for help instead of playing Jigsaw's game?

EK8829

Chosen answer: Zepp is given a set time frame before the poison will kill him. If he went to poison control, in the time it would take for them to find the right antidote he would likely be dead. Being an orderly he would have known this.

A Demon Premium member

Question: I've watched all 7 Saw movies recently and there is something that I still don't understand. Dr. Gordon was supposed to kill Adam within 6 hours in order to win the game and therefore, maintain his life. However, he never did that. He shot Adam in his shoulder and, even though it didn't kill Adam, the 6 hours had already passed anyway. I know that Zepp was the one who had to kill Dr. Gordon, but the truth is that Dr. Gordon never really did what he was supposed to do in the game. So why does Jigsaw still save him and make him his new successor (as seen in Saw 3D)? If we are objective, he didn't follow the rules of the game, so he should have died like all the other ones who didn't pass their traps.

Chosen answer: Jigsaw wants his victims to appreciate their lives. So while Dr. Gordon may not have completed his intended objective, by sawing off his own foot in order to escape, he won his game and earned Jigsaw's respect. The saws being provided to Adam and Dr. Gordon also demonstrated that they could escape if they were willing to saw off their own feet.

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Question: What exactly happened to Dr. Lawrence in the end? He's crawled out of the room, sans foot and increasing amounts of blood, and Jigsaw makes his way out the same door less than a minute afterward.

redbaron2000

Chosen answer: Saw 3D/Saw VII shows what happens to Dr Lawrence in the end. He burned his foot on the pipes to stop the bleeding and got out, but 3 days later Amanda came to the bathroom and killed Adam by putting plastic over his face.

Question: What went down the drain in the bathtub?

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Chosen answer: The key to Adam's chains. Jigsaw tells him this before locking him in the room at the end. Amanda was supposed to put it around his neck, rather than just throwing it on his chest.

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Question: Who was the Pighead who captured Dr. Gordon?

Chosen answer: It was John and Hoffman that captured Gordon. (I believe it's revealed in Saw V when we learn more of Hoffman's recruitment).

Question: Why did the killer place the key into the bathtub together with Adam? If it hadn't been sucked down the drain the game would have been over pretty quickly.

Chosen answer: The key wasn't supposed to be visible at first, that's why Jigsaw asked "what do voyeurs see when they look in the mirror?"

Question: *SPOILER* This question has been confusing me for ages and goes to the Saw series in general. First of all, If Jigsaw doesn't kill people himself, why does he slash Tapp's throat, and why does he also have an innocent victim in a drill chair? Second of all, he claims he despises murderers in Saw III, yet in Saw IV, he gives a man no chance of survival in the spike trap (could be explained that this was Hoffman's creation), and has his victims killing each other throughout the series, especially in Saw 6 where Jigsaw himself is personally present in a video to the main character, meaning that these traps were his idea, especially where the main character has to kill 4 out of 6 people to continue on with the game. Is this because Jigsaw is caught in some false belief that he is a something like a god or similar? After all, he believes the traps will change people, which has been done with varying results.

Chosen answer: In the third movie he states that he hates murderers. The traps which had no chance of the victim surviving were created by his apprentice Amanda, not Jigsaw himself, which leads him to test Amanda to see if she's worthy of carrying on his work in HIS WAY (giving the victim the chance of salvation) which she wasn't, which resulted in her being killed by the doctor's husband.

Question: What would happened if Gordon failed to reach the gun and shoot Adam and Zep killed Gordon's wife and daughter? Would they be both set free, just Gordon, or just Adam? And what would Zep do if he found Gordon and Adam both alive in the bathroom (they were, but he thought that Adam was dead). Would he kill just Gordon because he failed to kill his wife and daughter, or he would kill both of them?

Chosen answer: Gordon's game was to kill Adam. Adam's game was to survive. There was never an option, in Jigsaw's mind, for both Gordon and Adam to win. If Gordon hadn't shot Adam, Zep would have killed Gordon and his family and received the antidote from Jigsaw. Adam would have been set free.

virtual-toast

Question: Did Adam survive?

Answer: No.

Answer: No, his decomposed corpse is shown in the second film.

Answer: No he didn't survive however he was mercy killed by Amanda Young.

A Demon Premium member

Question: I understand why Jigsaw targeted Adam and Lawrence, it's stated in the film. But why Zep? He was shown earlier to actually care for his patient.

Chosen answer: Jigsaw described Zep as having "issues of his own". Zep was guilty in Jigsaw's vision. Zep talked about all the doctors, behind their back and claiming they all had affairs and especially calling Dr Gordon a cold hearted bastard. Jigsaw noticed also that Zep wasted his life with hopeless dreams of becoming a doctor, a dream that would never become true because Zep himself never really attempted to fulfill his goals. And as you know, one of the most important principles that Jigsaw wants to teach people, is how they should appreciate their lives and not waste them. That's why he had "Zep" tested, because he felt Zep wasted his life on useless dreams.

Question: When Tapp and Sing arrive at Jigsaw's warehouse in their car, Sing can be heard loading his shotgun. It sounds a lot like the "reloading shotgun" sound effect from Half-Life 2. Is it?

EK8829

Answer: It is unlikely as Saw had its first release on January 14th 2004 at the Sundance film festival. Half Life 2 had its first commercial release on November 19th 2004.

A Demon Premium member

Question: At the end Jigsaw says Adam isn't ungrateful to be alive anymore, but why does he lock Adam in the bathroom and say "game over" instead of helping him?

Chosen answer: He does help him technically. He tells him the key to the lock is in the bathtub (we saw it disappear down the plughole when Adam woke up at the beginning). In Jigsaw's sick, twisted mind he feels he is giving Adam a chance to prove he wants to live by getting the key. To prove he is grateful, he needs to find out how to get the key back. Which is technically impossible for Adam to do, leaving only one fate for him to remain.

The_Iceman Premium member

Question: At the end when Dr. Gordon cuts his foot off, he tells Adam he'll go and get help when he escapes. So wouldn't Adam be able to escape as well once Dr. Gordon gets help? Or would Jigsaw catch up with Dr. Gordon and kill him?

Chosen answer: Dr. Gordon is in Saw 7. Adam is killed by Amanda Young.

I also want to know why Dr Gordon never sent help back for Adam. They were fellow sufferers and even though Dr Gordon joined with jigsaw, he could have called 911 and sent help back for Adam.

I assume that Amanda came along and killed Adam before Dr. Gordon could do anything.

Answer: I assume that Amanda came along and killed Adam before Dr. Gordon could do anything.

Question: Has the director ever commented on how Mark was supposed to find the combination to the safe with so many numbers on the walls? Are there any theories in general on how to solve it?

Answer: I believe the light from the candle would illuminated the hidden numbers needed on the walls The fact that there was broken glass on the floor and flammible substances on his body didn't help much though.

Chosen answer: It was pure trial and error - he had to try.

A Demon Premium member

Answer: He simply has to try and find the right numbers amongst the plethora of false numbers on the walls in a short period of time. Trial and error. Try to find the right combo of numbers from his options. Not sure where the other answer got the "hidden numbers" idea from, as absolutely nothing in the film suggests there are hidden numbers.

Question: Would Zep have faced charges for his role in the game? If so, what charges would he be facing exactly?

EK8829

Answer: It's possible he could get off due to the extraordinary circumstances of what transpired. But given his sadistic pleasure in the game, I would assume he might face some charges. Among possible charges: kidnapping, assault, battery, weapons possession, criminal conspiracy, child endangerment, attempted murder, among many others.

As a lawyer, I believe the law is clear that you will not be charged for crimes you were forced to commit under immediate distress - that your life or a loved one's is in imminent danger.

To be clear the danger must be imminent - if John had told Zap to do it or he'd be poisoned next week wouldn't count, for example. But since the poison was already in his bloodstream his threat of death was indeed imminent, thus preventing any charges should he have lived.

Question: I've watched all seven films, but I've always come back to the same question: How did Jigsaw, Amanda, or Hoffman get some of the keys into their victims' stomachs via swallowing? I mean Nina has a fishhook in her stomach with the key attached! And Donnie Greco had a key stuck in his stomach before Amanda decided to gut him like a fish. Since they were sedated, swallowing keys sounds very unlikely, since it is a conscious effort, right?

Answer: It's shown in Saw 3D (saw 7) that this is all made possible because of Dr. Gordon.

Question: When Tapp drops Dr. Gordon off at home, he says "We arrested a dentist last week who liked to play with kids a bit too much. He lived two blocks from here. The sewer lines also run under this neighborhood, too, doctor." I'm assuming this was a subtle insinuation that he was still suspicious of Dr. Gordon. But what did he exactly mean by saying that?

Chosen answer: Hes letting Dr Gordon know that even though he is "well to do" that people of the upper class also have dark secrets and are not always innocent or better than anyone else.

Question: If the police had tech teams (as shown in Saw II), then why didn't the tech teams locate the nerve gas house/bathroom via the security cameras that Zep was using to observe Adam and Lawrence in the latter's house? The brief shootout between Zep and Tapp didn't destroy the computers and monitors, and Zep didn't disable or shut them down before leaving, either.

Chosen answer: They weren't in the nerve gas house. They were in Dr Gordon's house.

A Demon Premium member

Answer: I assume that Jigsaw would have disabled the camera in the bathroom so no signal would have been emitted for them to locate the bathroom/nerve gas house.

Question: At the very beginning of the film, Adam was seen waking up in a bath full of water. How did he breathe when he was unconscious? If Adam hadn't woken up he would have drowned, but there would have been no way for Jigsaw to know exactly when Adam was going to wake up so that he could put him in the bath at the right time. Dr. Gordon's lack of hysteria suggests that he has been awake for some time, so wouldn't he have heard Jigsaw putting Adam in the bath and guessed where he was?

Chosen answer: Jigsaw put Adam in there when everything else was set up, to revive him and get the game started. It is logical to assume that Jigsaw knew approximately how long Adam would be unconscious, and that the shock of cold water and drowning revived him quickly. True, Lawrence was probably awake at the time, but he would not hear much,other than the sounds of a body moving around, which he would later conclude had been Adam waking up and trying to move about.

Twotall

Answer: What I don't understand is that Adam was already submerged when Amanda closed the door, hence he would have awoken probably only seconds later. but Dr Gordon tells Adam that he'd already been screaming for help and what not, so you'd assume he would have been awake at least a couple minutes before Adam, which would mean he would have been screaming for help whilst Amanda was still present which we know wasn't the case. Just makes no sense to me.

He wasn't submerged when Amanda closed the door. Go back and watch the flashback in "Saw III." He's still above water. He slowly slipped under over time.

Question: What exactly was the purpose of the cigarettes? It seems like in order to kill Adam, Lawrence would have to give Adam a "blood soaked" cigarette. If this was how Lawrence was going to kill Adam, then what was the point of the saws and bullets? Also, wouldn't Lawrence be skeptical as a Doctor that something like a blood soaked cigarette would kill Adam while a normal unsoaked one wouldn't kill him? The whole part with the cigarette's leaves many unanswered questions.

Kelsey H.

Chosen answer: The killer knows that, in this early stage, Lawrence is unlikely to really try to kill Adam, and also that he is likely to try and pretend to do so to get out (hence the electrical shock administered to Adam). Thus, the saws and gun are for use later in the game, when things really heat up; the cigarette is there specifically for the ruse Lawrence attempts. Also, the deadly effect of the cigarette is not just the blood, but the fact that the blood is poisoned (or so they are led to believe); hence, if Adam put the poisoned blood in his system, it could very well have killed him if it really were poisoned. Smoking an unsoaked one might kill him with cancer, but that would have taken far too long to do Lawrence any good.

Question: After Zep is killed and before Lawrence leaves the room to get help, why doesn't he take Zep's gun to shoot Adam's chains? They probably didn't know how many bullets were left on the gun, so it's possible that there would have been at least one bullet left?

Chosen answer: Shooting at anything solid like chains or a wall with a gun is never a very good idea. First, it is very unlikely to work, and secondly, the bullet is bound to ricochet seriously injuring one or both of them while leaving the chains untouched.

Myridon

Question: What could possibly be the purpose of the photograph that was placed on the box in the wall? If it was there, then Lawrence was supposed to take it with the box together - but he fails to notice it. Was that their only chance to get out of there alive or what?

Chosen answer: There was no photograph on or in the box on the wall. The contents were: A cell phone, 2 cigarettes, a lighter and a note. The picture was in Lawrence's wallet which told them to look for the X on the wall.

moviemogul

Question: When Danny Glover was taking pictures of Cary Elwes home, didn't he wonder who the stranger was peering out from the window? And since he didn't know who the man was, why didn't he follow up or call the police? Also, how could photos from Glover's camera be so quickly developed, and then somehow put into the toilet in the sewer room?

Chosen answer: The pictures found in the toilet were taken by Adam. They were probably taken from his dark room (where he developed pictures) when he was kidnapped. Glover doesn't know Zep, but Glover says something along the lines of, "Does he know someone's at home with his wife?" Meaning he may have thought that she was having an affair.

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Jigsaw: Congratulations. You are still alive. Most people are so ungrateful to be alive. But not you. Not anymore.

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On the DVD these interesting facts were told by the directors and writers: the character Adam is actually the co-writer of Saw. The Saw was only shot in 18 days and under 1,000,000 dollars, and it all took place in 2 warehouses and the writers/directors came up with the idea by wanting to make a movie that revolves around a single room and the people trapped inside.

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