The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King

Corrected entry: After the Orc army have broken into Minas Tirith, one of the Orcs strikes a soldier with a weapon. You can see the weapon misses the soldier, but he still reacts as if he has been hit. (01:56:40)

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Correction: The weapon does not miss the soldier. The orc hits him.

Corrected entry: At Minas Tirith, Grond destroys the door and the Trolls attack. Gandalf charges at one Troll in particular and proceeds to slash the Troll in the belly, and the Troll drops down, yet Gandalf's sword never even touches the Troll at all. (01:48:30)

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Correction: Gandalf does not miss this troll. His sword touches its belly.

Replayed this, and Gandalf's sword does not touch that Troll.

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Corrected entry: When Sam is fighting Shelob, at the start of the fight Sam appears to be using his own sword. Later in the fight, when Sam's sword is grabbed by the mouth of Shelob, when the sword comes back out it appears as if he is using Frodo's Sting sword. (02:20:00)

Correction: Sam is using Sting through the entire battle with Shelob. He is holding Sting from the very beginning, and his own sword remains in its scabbard the whole time.


Corrected entry: In the scene of Sam and Frodo on the slopes of Mount Doom, the entire scene has been flipped. Peter Jackson wanted the Hobbits to travel from left to right across the screen for all three movies, so the editors had to flip this scene to achieve that. This is also why any cuts/dirt smudges on their faces seem to change sides. Only when Frodo and Sam return to the Shire and go to the Grey Havens, do we see them traveling right to left.

Correction: This is incorrect. While in Emyn Muil Sam and Frodo travel from the right to the left, when they are encased in fog.

Corrected entry: When Theoden forbids Merry to go to war with the Rohirrim, Merry is with his white pony. In the wider shot of Merry watching Theoden ride off, his pony suddenly disappears. (01:50:10)

Correction: When Theoden rides away from Merry, in the next shot as Merry turns to look at Theoden, note that the pony is several feet behind the Hobbit, as it turns away to its right. It then cuts to a shot of Theoden, Eomer and others riding off. It isn't until the third shot that we see Merry standing towards the right of the screen without the pony. There is enough time between the first and third shots for the pony to simply walk away from the commotion of all the riders.

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Corrected entry: When Sam is fighting Shelob and stabs her in the eyes, there's gunk on Sting when he pulls it out - you can see it. But then, a shot later when Shelob throws Sting in the air, there's nothing on it.

Correction: This is already online, as mistake ID 62796.

Corrected entry: In the finale battle at the Black Gates, the good army is in a tight group surrounded by 10,000 orcs. If just 1/3 of those orcs had bows (which we never see in the final battle), and they volleyed into the group, 3000 men would have died right there (if not everyone, including Aragorn, Gandalf, the hobbits, etc). In all three films, the evil side has some sort of bowmen, but for some magical reason the army protecting the great eye and the orcs' leader, seems to have conveniently forgotten their bows. (Regardless of anyone's feelings, its a logical winning move for the orc, one that someone (PJ) left out, and no trees in Mordor to make bows is not a correction.)

Correction: Sauron is arrogant. He assumes there is no need for bows. He takes pleasure in causing suffering and so do the orcs. The orcs would have preferred to kill the intruders in combat rather than at range, Sauron would rather watch them be killed by ravaging orcs instead of an arrow, and "10,000" orcs should be more than enough to easily kill each and every one of these intruders. And, indeed, they would have been if the Ring had not been destroyed in time.

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Corrected entry: Along with Titanic, this is the only movie to gross $1 billion worldwide and, according to Guinness World Records 2005 edition, it took nine weeks to achieve this as opposed to Titanic's 11 weeks. Therefore, it's the fastest to gross $1 billion ever.

Sam Johnson

Correction: Since Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest now reached $1 billion worldwide at a faster time, this is no longer valid.

Corrected entry: Sean Bean's contract was for all three films. That is why we see flashbacks of Boromir in this movie (Pippin remembering Boromir's death in Denethor's hall) and 'The Two Towers' (Boromir restraining Frodo at the Bridge of Khazad-Dum). In the Extended Editions, new footage of Boromir is seen in both films (Denethor hallucinating a vision of Boromir in this film and Boromir commanding his troops at Osgiliath in 'The Two Towers').


Correction: The scenes had nothing to do with Sean Bean's contract. An actor's contract specifies that he will be paid for the work he does, not that the footage will be used in the final film. An example is Christopher Lee, whose contract was for all three films, but who was cut out of the third film entirely.

Jason Hoffman

Corrected entry: When Eowyn faces the Nazgul in combat, he once swings his morning-star horizontally. In the instant where the scene is shown from behind the Witch King, Eowyn dodges the weapon's had by leaning backwards; but then, as the same scene is shown from behind Eowyn, she suddenly ducks low to avoid it.

Correction: I just watched this several times, and what she does is take a tiny step backwards and then ducks straight down, in both shots.


Corrected entry: In ROTK (and in the first two) Orlando Bloom is usually wearing blue colored contacts. Yet sometimes the brown eyes are seen, regardless of the reason why he isn't wearing them.

Correction: It is explained in commentary that Bloom wore the contacts during all filming and simply the lighting made them appear darker. Not a mistake.


Corrected entry: When the three hunters leave the mountains where the dead lived and see the corsair ships Legolas eyes are brown and not blue. It is not that they appear brown because they are dark blue, you can see the color of them. Extended DVD.

Correction: According to the commentary Bloom wore his contact during all filming and lighting caused them to appear darker. Not a mistake.


Corrected entry: As Pippin is searching for Merry on the field of Pellenor, he spots something, looking down within a few feet of him. The scene cuts to a longer shot, and Pippen must run fifteen or twenty feet to get to Merry.


Correction: He does not look directly down on the ground. He seems to be looking in the right direction/height to me.

Corrected entry: The captain of Sauron's army, the deformed orc Gothmog, bears more than a passing similarity to the aliens in Peter Jackson's earlier film "Bad Taste" (1987).

Correction: This is not correct, nose, ears, basic jaw and cheek structure are all different.

Corrected entry: In the scene where the army is lining up in front of the Black Gate in preparation for the final battle, Aragorn, Legolas and Gimli are seen riding on Arod and Brego. This is very convenient considering these horses fled in terror from their masters at the Door of the Dead.

Correction: Arod and Brego fled back to the Rohirrim encampment, then were taken to Minas Tirith - on a long high-speed journey, a number of spare horses would have been taken along to act as replacements in the highly likely situation that some horses could become injured en route. Once the siege was lifted and the Mordor army defeated, they were reunited with their normal riders.

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Corrected entry: Before the charge of the Rohirrim, we see that Merry and Eowyn are near the middle of the group, but when we see Merry during the charge look behind him. There are about five horsemen but behind them there are just empty fields.

Correction: During a charge people might be moving sideways if there's an opening for them to advance. They won't stay in perfect formation.

Corrected entry: One look at the palantír is enough to make Pippin irresistibly drawn to it. When he steals it from Gandalf Merry takes quite a good look at it to and even looks into it while Pippin does. Merry should have been drawn to it just the same as Pippin, it's not something they could control.

Correction: Actually, it is something that can be controlled - it's down to strength of will and personality. Pippin is younger and less experienced than Merry, plus, as Merry comments on at least one occasion, his curiosity is near legendary. All of which combines to make him considerably more susceptible to the palantír than Merry is.

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Corrected entry: The parting of Merry and Pippin takes place within two or three days after the Isengard battle. In the aftermath of Isengard they find one barrel each filled with pipeweed, yet when Merry says goodbye to Pippin all that is left is a small pouch. There is no way they could have smoked all that pipe weed in just a few days; it was month's worth.

Correction: Pipe weed from the Shire was lauded to be the best, and most coveted, so quite realistically Merry and Pip shared their good fortune with Gandalf (even Saruman confirms Gandalf's desire in FOTR), Gimli, Aragorn and the rest. Aside from that, those two Halflings could indeed have smoked non-stop after having gone without for a long time; Hobbits are known for their predilection for the pipe weed.

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Corrected entry: At the very end, Aragorn is crowned king while still in Minas Tirith. He goes on to tell the people that 'we will re-build our land.' But why would he have to stay in Minas Tirith if he is actually heir to be king in Gondor? There would be no immediate need for him to do so.

Correction: Minas Tirith had become the capial city of Gondor when Osgiliath failed in the Third Age. Minas Tirith was the site of Aragorn Elessar's throne. He need not have left but he did travel throughout the ancient kingdoms.


Corrected entry: When the title shows, we see a shot moving to a flooded Isengard. If you look closely, you can see Merry and Pippin sitting on the wall; Pippin on the left and Merry on the right. But when in the close-up of the two of them, Merry is now on the left and Pippin is on the right. (00:10:00)

Correction: The sequence is not in real time. They had enough time to switch places with each other.

Corrected entry: In the final battle scene, when Aragorn and crew are creating a "diversion" outside the gates of Mordor, everyone is on horseback. Later in the scene, when Aragorn and the other warriors charge the enemy, they are on foot. Even if they did dismount, where are the horses? (02:32:00)

Correction: In close combat with no room to manoeuvre, being on horseback can be a serious liability - the possibility of being pulled off and then killed before getting up is too high, so it makes sense to dismount. The Host would not want riderless horses around - the likelihood is that they'd spook and prove a danger to the soldiers around them - so they simply designated a couple of riders to lead the horses out of the combat zone. It would have taken some considerable time for the Mordor forces to surround them, so there was plenty of time for this to happen.

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Corrected entry: In Mount Doom, Gollum bites off Frodo's finger to get the ring. In the next shot, you see Frodo holding his hand, underneath the blood, you can still see the ring on his finger.

Correction: What you can see is a reflection of light of the "blood" on the tip of the severed finger (and other points of the hands). But certainly not the ring. Even though it might look like it that would be a far too stupid mistake for a movie of that quality.


Corrected entry: In the Tower of Cirith Ungol, Gorbag is shoved down the entrance hole by Shagrat, causing the orc fights below, yet later we see that Gorbag, not Shagrat, is again in the room with Frodo, to be stabbed by Sam.

Correction: Yes, Gorbag is pushed down below and Shagrat bellows, "The scum tried to knife me, kill him," causing the melee which results in the other Orcs dying, except for the intended Gorbag; and in a lovely twist of irony it is Gorbag that returns up to the tower threatening Frodo, who Sam then kills.

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Corrected entry: In the extended version, when Pippin is searching for Merry after the battle of the Pelennor fields, he finds Merry's elven cloak. However, Merry is wearing the cloak when Pippin finds him.

Correction: Merry wears a long grey Rohan garment under his chest armor, but this is not his distinctive Elvin cloak. When Pippin asks, "Are you going to leave me?" it is very clear that Merry is not wearing the Elvin cloak, then in the last shot Pippin lays the cloak on Merry.

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Corrected entry: During the movie, Pippin is wearing his Elven cloak with the brooch. This doesn't make any sense, because in The Two Towers, he left his brooch as a clue for Aragorn when Pippin and Merry had been taken captive by the Uruks.

Correction: In The Two Towers Aragorn finds Pippin's Elvin brooch, just as the Hobbit intended. At the start of Return of the King Aragorn sees Pippin and Merry again at Isengard and gives Pip back his brooch.

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Corrected entry: When Aragorn, Legolas, Gimli, Pippin, Merry, Eomer, and Gandalf (pardon me if I have missed anyone) ride up to the Black Gate they are on horses, when they come back they are on horses, but when they charge to meet the orcs, trolls and Southerners the horses have vanished.

Correction: There's a long time between these events - more than enough time for them to have dismounted, as horses are a liability in close combat, then the horses were led away from the battlefield before they were surrounded.

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Corrected entry: In every shot of Minas Tirith, a city which faces east, with mountains behind it to the west, the sun is shining onto the City from the north. Now this is possible, in very early morning and evening, from May to early August in the Northern Hemisphere...but not at noon-time, and NOT in March (the Ring is destroyed just after equinox, March 25th). We know Middle-earth is Northern Hemisphere since the warmer lands are further south (and Tolkien states in the book that it lay approximately where Northwest Europe is now). In winter, the sun moves southerly and low in the sky. But this was filmed in New Zealand, where winter sunlight comes from the north, not the south, hence so does the sunlight at Minas Tirith in the movie. There's the reason, but still a mistake.

Correction: The Earth has not always been tilted on its axis roughly 23 degrees. The angle of tilt does change approximately every 20,000 years. In the time of the Pharaohs, Sirius was the north star and now it is Polaris. The Earth's rotation has also slowed down thoughout history as did the orbit around the sun. This error is correct if this movie took place in our lifetimes or even in the last 2000 years. But the problem is, it is a mythlogical world on a mythological timeline. We cannot determine what century it took place. Pre-dinosaur, post-dinsaur, pre-Egyptian, pre-Sumarian? Not knowing at what point in Earth's history the movie is set makes it impossible to guess exactly how the sun would shine down on any given spot.


Corrected entry: When Frodo is in the Tower of Cirith Ungol, his shirt is off and you can see a round, burn-like mark; presumably where he was stung by Shelob. The mark is, however, in the area that would have been covered by his mithril shirt. Even if Shelob did pierce the shirt (which would be odd, since it survived that troll-thrust in "Fellowship"), where is the hole when the Mouth of Sauron shows it to Gandalf?

Correction: When Frodo's white shirt is unbuttoned at the top, the low neckline of the mithril shirt is visible underneath. Shelob does not perforate the mithril shirt, she wounds Frodo at the neckline and the scar, which is seen at the Tower of Cirith Ungol, is positioned in the area where the mithril neckline would be located.

Corrected entry: How in the world did Sam rip the ring off Frodo even though he was covered with webs, pick up his sword that was far away from him, find a hiding space and run deeply into it in the four seconds or so that he had before the orcs came? Another thing is that hobbits are not very fast as they have very short legs and are fat, and Sam had pots and pans with him which would have made lots of noise if he was running quickly, and we hear nothing.

Correction: All Sam needs to do to get to the chain is reach with one finger between the web and Frodo's neck, pull out a bit of chain and unclasp it, very quick and simple to do. From the time Sam hears the Orcs, to the moment of their arrival, is longer than "four seconds", as it is not necessary (and very deliberate) to show Sam's (who is indeed quite fast on his Hobbit feet) actions onscreen - so the viewers would see and hear nothing. (The point is made in the films that despite Hobbit size, they are rather quick and nimble.)

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Corrected entry: In the scene where Frodo, Sam and Smeagol crawl past the dead city of Minas Morgul, a huge green ray of light issues from the top of the tower, followed by a zillion and a half orcs marching out. In the shot where Gandalf and Pippin are watching this event from Minas Tirith, the green beam appears to be on the right (our right) of Orodruin (Mt. Doom) erupting. However, check out Tolkien's maps of Middle Earth and you will see that, from Minas Tirith, the green beam should be on the left of Orodruin.

Correction: When looking at the map of Middle Earth, Minas Tirith, Osgiliath, and Minas Morgul are, from west to east, on the same line of latitude, and Mount Doom is northeast of Minas Morgul. When Gandalf and Pippin stand in Minas Tirith, facing Osgiliath, beyond it lies the Mountains of Shadow (Ephel Dúath) and within that mountain range, directly behind Osgiliath, is Minas Morgul, where the green beacon is emitted from. While still facing the same way, to the left of Minas Morgul, farther in the distance is Mount Doom (Orodruin). The scene with Gandalf and Pippin is geographically correct.

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Corrected entry: The Kingdom of the Dead fled before the battle between Isildur and Sauron. They hid in the mountains and they never saw or spoke to anyone after that. So how is it that they are instantly able to recognize Aragorn's sword and know that it was broken?

Correction: Narsil, Elendil's sword, was legendary even at the time of the War of the Last Alliance - it was over three thousand years old at that point. Even with the alterations made by the reforging, it would be recognisable. The Dead didn't retreat to their subterranean realm immediately after their curse, making it highly likely that they would have encountered others at some point. At that point in history, only shortly after the fall of Sauron, the tale of Elendil's fall would be widely known, making it highly unlikely that they wouldn't have been made aware of the details, including the breaking of Narsil.

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Corrected entry: The pirate on the Corsair ship who talks to Aragorn et al. is actually WETA workshop manager Richard Taylor.

Correction: It's not Richard Taylor - he's standing near the huge crossbow "looking menacing" (according to Richard himself). See the Extended DVD appendices - they talk about the cameos in that scene.

Corrected entry: At the end, before Gandalf's little 'breaking the fellowship' speech, he takes his left hand off his staff. Then it cuts to the hobbits and back to Gandalf, who has his hand on his staff again.

Correction: There is plenty of time for Gandalf to place his hand back on the staff during the camera cut.

Corrected entry: In the Paths of the Dead, Aragorn is leading with a torch in his hand. However, when the King of the Dead challenges him, he holds his sword in both hands - the torch is missing.

Correction: In the wide shot just prior to when the King of the Dead says, "The way is shut. Now you must die.", the huge gorge is visible right behind Aragorn, Legolas and Gimli, as Aragorn holds the torch in this last shot where it is visible. Then there are 2 shots of the King of the dead, 1 shot of Legolas and 1 of Gimli, before Aragorn walks forward. If Aragorn throws the torch to the side during these 4 shots and it's then kicked into the gorge by the menacing Army of the Dead, in one of the many shots where the ground isn't visible before the Army of the Dead disappear, it is quite plausible. If Aragorn throws the torch behind him, directly into the gorge during the 4 shots, it's also perfectly plausible, as there is plenty of time for either to occur.

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Corrected entry: Sam tells Frodo that Sauron's eye passed on towards the north. But Sauron's eye passed on towards the south.

Correction: Nope. Sauron's gaze goes to the Black Gate, which is north of where Sam and Frodo are.

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Corrected entry: In the Tower of Cirith Ungol when Frodo is lying without his shirt, while they go through his clothing, he has spider web in his hair. A short while later when Sam comes to rescue him, there is no spider web in his hair at all, and his hands are still bound so he couldn't have removed it.

Correction: Frodo has web on his face and hair as Shagrat and Gorbag fight. Then it cuts to many shots of the fighting amongst the Uruks and Orcs, followed by all of Sam's shots. Since Frodo's hands are bound at his wrists, in front of him, it gives him the mobility to actually reach up and wipe away the annoying web from his face and much of it from his hair. There certainly is enough time for Frodo to do this.

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Corrected entry: In the Extended Edition Eowyn is asleep on a couch in the throne room of Meduseld after the Rohan victory celebration. But she lives in Edoras; why isn't she in her own bedroom? In the film she has to be in a public place, because otherwise Aragorn couldn't talk to her about her dream in the middle of the night. But would king Theoden really leave his eligible young niece asleep alone in the throne room, when there are lots of drunken guests around after the party? You'd expect at least a guard or chaperon with her.

Correction: This has to go in the "character decision" category. Eowyn chooses to sleep in the Hall of Meduseld, and even though her reason for this is not shown, she is free to do so. One possible explanation can be that she had her nightmare in her room, and wanted to get out in the bigger, loftier Hall to get some air, or because she felt safer there. And as Eowyn demonstrates, she is fully capable of taking care of herself.


Corrected entry: Extended edition. Éomer tells Éowyn that he does not doubt the strength of Merry's heart, only the reach of his arm. Yet later in that same scene, he tells her he doesn't believe Merry is brave enough to be in battle

Correction: At first he is being diplomatic with Eowyn to placate her, but later he is only being more honest about his opinion of Merry's abilities.

Corrected entry: The first or second time you see a Nazgul riding the winged beast (in Osgiliath), the winged beast's mouth is big enough to fit a person in whole. Later on when Eowyn cuts the winged beast's head off (just before she fights the witch king), the winged beast's mouth is a lot smaller.

Correction: Not the case - when the Fell Beast attacked Theoden, it takes a sizable amount of his horse into its mouth. The size of the creature doesn't alter between that moment and when Eowyn fights it. The mouth of the Fell Beast is quite long, allowing it to open much wider than the size of the head would suggest, but it doesn't change.

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Corrected entry: The Ringwraiths can feel the presence of the Ring at all times as stated by Gandalf, but the Witch King is unable to feel the Ring's presence at its front door or even when he flies right over Frodo in Minas Morgul.

Correction: They can feel the presence of the Ring, yes, but that doesn't mean that they can zero in on it - it doesn't work like a homing beacon unless somebody's actually wearing it. A Nazgul can be within feet of the Ring and be unaware of it, as we see on at least one occasion during the film. The Witch-King can feel the Ring, but he has no way of knowing how close it is.

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Corrected entry: After the battle of the Pelennor fields, when Pippin finds Merry, Merry says, "I knew you'd find me." Then in a side shot, though we hear Merry say, "Are you going to leave me?" his lips actually touch and come together like for the letter 'B' and NOT forming the letter 'L' in 'leave'. As an aside, it appears as if his lips may say, "Are you going to bury me?", which was the line as said in the book, but in any case still a mistake. (02:17:45)

Correction: I just checked the Extended DVD, and he is NOT forming the letter B. His lips are parted when he says that letter. You try saying the letter B with parted lips. It's obviously an L, thus he is saying the word "leave" and not "bury".

Corrected entry: When Frodo has been captured and is lying on the floor, you can see Frodo's boxers. They have a white elastic band at the top, with black writing along the edge.


Correction: There is neither an elastic waistband nor is there is any black writing visible on the undergarment. As Frodo moves and takes deep breaths the material does not move as an elastic band and the drawstring is visible in some shots. In an enlarged screenshot the undergarment is clearly regular white material that has shadowed creases at the waist. It is simply Hobbit underwear.

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Corrected entry: When Legolas is hanging on the Mumakil, he cuts the ropes that are holding the saddle quite far down. But when he is pulled up you can see that they are cut far above, directly where the saddle ends.

Correction: The set of ropes that Legolas cuts are looped into circular openings at the base of the Haradrim tower. Once the rope is cut it snakes loose quickly due to the load that it holds, so as the tower falls the rope is no longer there. All that is visible is the tower and its base.

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Corrected entry: In Minas Tirith, when Legolas appeared at the door of the room Frodo rested in, his collar was open. (Check the close-up shot of Legolas.) But when he was inside with the other fellowship members, his collar was fastened. (02:52:10)

Correction: As Legolas walks in after Gimli, the top clasp on Legolas' high collar IS fastened - it is about 6 inches down from the top of the collar. The top corners of the collar material are merely angled out a bit in this shot. Then, it is after 2 shots of Frodo and 2 shots of Aragorn that Legolas is in the wide shot with everyone and the corners of the collar are straighter, which only required a flick of the finger.

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Corrected entry: Sam and Pippin quite often sport 5 o'clock shadows, even though Hobbits do not have facial hair.

Correction: There are three types of hobbits: Stoors, Fallohides, and Harfoots. Only Fallohides are established to have no facial hair, the other two types may or may not. Who's to say that a five o' clock shadow is wrong? Also, in the books, Merry and Pippin grew taller and beards because of what Treebeard gave them to drink.

Corrected entry: When Sam picks up Frodo on Mount Doom after his "patriotic" speech, Frodo's head is on Sam's right side. In the next scene, where they see the doorway, Frodo's head is on Sam's left side.

Correction: They climbed a pretty long way up Mount Doom in the time between those two scenes; it's quite possible that Sam may have stopped to rest, put Frodo down, and then picked him up the other way when he was ready to go on.

Corrected entry: In the scene at Mount Doom when Gollum bites Frodo's finger off, he falls down in pain, next to Gollum. Then Gollum is ecstatic he got the ring, and it shows a top view of Gollum, and Frodo is several meters away from him.

Correction: Actually Gollum leaps from Frodo and lands a couple of meters away from him.

Corrected entry: In the Two Towers, as the Ents are about to attack Isengard, they have to walk from Fangorn Forest to Isengard. However, in Return of the King, the two are right next to each other. It's not that the Ents have taken root again, because you can see them walking around in the background. It was probably done deliberately, so that Merry and Pippin could see them walking out of the forest, but still a mistake.

Correction: A scene restored to the extended edition of TTT shows the Huorns, which are moving trees but not Ents, arrive at Helm's Deep and stomp the orcs to death, when they flee into the newly formed forest. This scene from the book was deleted from the theatrical edition of TTT for reasons of length, but explains why the forest is closer to Isengard in ROTK.

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Corrected entry: In the scene where Pippin finds Merry under an Orc, look at the dead Mumak in the background. The size is drastically reduced from all the battle scenes. The foot, for example, looks like it could hardly step completely on Merry, a 3'8" Hobbit, let alone entire Rohirrim horses. (02:17:20)

Correction: It looks the same size as it was earlier. A horse is not much longer than Merry is tall, and it does look like it could step on the Hobbit quite well. It is not at all drastically reduced.

Corrected entry: In the scene where Theoden rides into Dunharrow, he asks "Where are the riders from Snowborn?" the answer is "None have come, my lord"; this is impossible, since Snowborn is a river or stream passing right next to the Rohirrim encampment. What this means is that they cannot come since they would have already been there.

Correction: It doesn't mean anything of the sort. The Snowbourn River does indeed run past Dunharrow, but it then runs north and east across Rohan, past Edoras, until it finally meets up with the Entwash. The Snowbourn that Theoden refers to, which is presumably a settlement of some description that takes its name from the river on which it lies, could be anywhere along the route.

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Corrected entry: Eomer shoots an arrow at an Oliphaunt. In the first shot, front view, it is missing nearly its entire right tusk (it shows a bloody stump). In the shot from the rear view, it has an intact right tusk as it falls. (This scene occurs immediately after the one in which Eowyn & Merry charge at, hack at, and down an Oliphaunt).

Correction: In the side back shot, only the two small bottom tusks, the long top left tusk and the Mumak's trunk (which may be mistaken for the long right tusk in the quick shot) is clearly seen. We do not see the long right tusk on the other side of the trunk, as it is a short stump.

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Corrected entry: In the book The Hobbit, the three trolls that captured the dwarves are turned to stone by being exposed to daylight. The extended DVD of FOTR has a scene which touches on this. However, there are plenty of trolls fighting in the daylight battles in ROTK.

Correction: Different types of troll - the ones seen towards the end are Olog-Hai, a special breed of troll created by Sauron. They're stronger, more intelligent, and can survive in sunlight, unlike the common trolls of the type encountered in the Hobbit.

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Corrected entry: When Aragorn, Eomer, Merry, Pippin, Gandalf, Legolas and Gimli ride up to the black gate, after Aragorn says his bit, there's a shot of Merry, then Gimli, then Eomer. You can see Eomer is wearing a red bandana or hat of some sort under his helmet. (02:24:25)

Correction: What's to say someone from Middle-Earth couldn't do that?

Corrected entry: When Théoden is knocked under his horse by the Witch-King, it's obvious that the Fell Beast is attacking so Théoden is looking down at him, with the horse's legs pointing at the Fell Beast, yet after Éowyn destroys the Witch-King and Théoden passes away, we see a wide-shot of the whole scene. Éowyn's discarded helmet and the remains of the Witch-King are positioned at Théoden's head rather than feet. The attack all took part below Théoden, so how did everything shift to above his

Correction: Wrong. After Theoden dies, there is a wide shot of the area and the helmet near Theoden's head is his (use zoom if necessary) not Eowyn's. Plus the Witch King's remains are not near Theoden's head in this shot either.

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Corrected entry: When Aragorn is releasing the Army of the Dead, in the background flags showing the white tree of Gondor can be seen (the same emblem that Aragorn wears on his armour at the black gate). Problem is, no Gondorian soldiers fought in the fields around Minas Tirith, so where did the flags come from?

Correction: They came from Rivendell. Arwen made them and Elrond (in the film) brought them. Though the sequence itself was not in the theatrical cut.

Corrected entry: At the Battle of Pelennor Fields Eowyn asks Merry to take hold of the reins. After he does she reaches out with her hand and grabs the spear of an on coming Orc. In the next shot it changes to a sword. (02:06:00)

Correction: It's not a spear she grabs. Look closely and you'll see it's a sword. The orc is holding it at the bottom. If it were a spear, the orc would be holding it farther up.

Corrected entry: In the shot where Frodo is hanging in Shelobs web struggling to escape you can tell that he has shoes on.

Correction: No he is not wearing shoes. What is seen is the outline of the ankle straps for the attached wire, which is already noted.

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Corrected entry: On all the closeups of the Ring in Mount Doom, there are numerous flashes in the chamber that look like lightning flashes, or some other form of "blue" light. There wouldn't be any light of that color in the chamber because it is all fire and lava.

Correction: It's a chamber that has seen substantial amounts of magic used there - namely the forging of the Ring itself. Who's to say what sort of odd discharges there might be, particularly as we're focusing on the Ring - the target of all that magic power.

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Corrected entry: At Isengard when Pippin jumps off Aragorn's horse to retrieve the palantir, the water is up above his waist when he reaches into the water for the palantir. But when he hands the palantir to Gandalf, his top half is still dry.

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Correction: Pippin only reaches his arms down below water and his sleeves remain wet throughout the scene.

Corrected entry: When Faramir and his men are overwhelmed by Orcs, they retreat to Minas Tirith. Gandalf, with Pippin astride, gallops out from Minas Tirith on Shadowfax and drives off the Nazgul and the fell beasts. There is no reason for Gandalf to have ridden out with Pippin.

Correction: Gandalf is responsible for Pippin - he simply wanted to keep him close. Gandalf drives the Nazgul off with ease, so it's not as if the hobbit is in any danger by accompanying him.

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Corrected entry: King Theoden tells Merry 'It is a three day gallop to Minas Tirith', but they arrive there the next day at dawn, as the siege of Gondor begins as they begin their ride, and the siege of Gondor goes on all night into dawn the next day, which is the time the Rohirrim arrive.

Correction: It is a three day ride from Edoras. Théoden and his men ride out from Duneharrow.

Corrected entry: On the DVD, in the scene where Gandalf is driving the carriage (with Frodo and Bilbo on board), in the zoomed out shot you can see four hobbits riding on ponies. There should only be three. Since Frodo is in the carriage, that would only leave Sam, Merry, and Pippen. These are the only hobbits going along, since they are the only ones at the harbor.

Correction: In the opening shot when Gandalf arrives in the wagon, all four Hobbits are on the ponies. Then in the next shot after Gandalf's close-up, as we hear Bilbo's voiceover, the four ponies have only three riders, one of the ponies is riderless. Use zoom, it is very clear.

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Corrected entry: As Legolas walks along the top of the oliphant about to fire three arrows into its head, he draws his three arrows twice, once before and once after the camera change.

Correction: No. In the close-up his face twists up in anger at the Mumak and draws the first arrow. In the next shot from above, as he walks on top of the animal he places that arrow into his left hand and draws two more from behind, then puts the three together at the bow.

Super Grover Premium member

Corrected entry: Frodo has his sleeves up when he is finished writing The Lord of the Rings revealing the same skin color as his hands. However, at the Grey Havens scene his sleeves are down as he has a nice clean cut tan if you look up his sleeve.

Correction: These scenes are never said to be set even in the same year. So far as the movie tells us, we have no idea how long they stayed in the shire before leaving for the Grey Havens. If there were even a space of one month, that would be plenty of time for Frodo to develop a tan line.

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Corrected entry: In the Golden Hall at Edoras, when Gandalf is explaining what had happened with Pippin and the palantir, there are wide side shots of Pippin sitting on a chair and Merry standing beside him. It is very apparent that it is the scale doubles in these shots, especially Pippin's.

Correction: How can you tell? They look like the real actors to me.

Corrected entry: As Aragorn and co. are riding up to Isengard (right after the title appears on screen), we see a long shot of Merry and Pippin sitting among the rubble. Not only are they on opposite sides from the subsequent close-up, they are also both wearing their jackets; in the close-ups, neither is wearing a jacket.

Correction: Merry and Pippin stay on the same sides, Merry to our left and Pippin to our right, and their jackets are never on.

Corrected entry: When Gandalf and Pippin ride out of Edoras for Minas Tirith, the first shot is inside the stable as Shadowfax is galloping out the door. Gandalf's staff is in his right hand. In the very next outside shot from above the stable door, the staff is in Gandalf's left hand. He did not have any time to switch hands between these two consecutive shots.

Correction: In the outside shot we see Gandalf passing the gate of Edoras, not the stable door. He has had plenty of time to change hands, as the shots do not immediately follow on in time.

Corrected entry: After the battle of the Pelennor fields you see Gandalf walking and resting his left hand in the middle of the grip of his sword. In the next moment, when Pippin appears on his side, his hand rests further down.

Correction: When the shot moves on and it covers Gandalf's hands, he could have had a bit of time to move them down quickly enough before Pippin came.

Corrected entry: When Sam slips going down the Winding Stair, a number of small rocks tumble down with him, but when he strikes the ground, the rocks are missing, and there is no sound of them striking the ground. (01:40:05)

Correction: The rocks did make noises whilst bouncing down the stairs. It's highly likely that they flew off the edge of the cliff

Corrected entry: When Gandalf and Pippin arrive at Minas Tirith and go inside to speak to Denethor, he is holding Boromir's horn close to the mouthpiece. When Denethor stands up and starts yelling at Gandalf, however, the horn has disappeared from his grasp, with the exception of the horn's strap. (00:34:25 - 00:37:10)

Correction: Denethor is holding the horn still but is obscured by his cloak and the strap is dangling down in view.

Corrected entry: When the Mordor hosts has broken through the outer perimeters of Minas Tirith, a troll is hammering a large hammer at a gate. The sound of the hammer hitting the gate is delayed compared to the moment the hammer actually hits the gate.

Correction: The sound on the DVD is in sync

Corrected entry: Just before the ride of the Rohirrim, we see a wide shot of them in their positions, not moving, and they are separated into two groups with a gap in the middle. In all further shots, the gap is not there.

Correction: The gap isn't clearly visible on the second high shot but it can just be made out. After the charge starts the gap would naturally close up.

Corrected entry: Legolas could see Gimli again after he takes down the Oliphant single-handedly. They were all pretty much together at the start, and the Oliphant was galloping the entire time... it must have travelled at least half a mile considering how big it is.

Correction: It might also have run in a circle, bringing them back roughly where they started.

Corrected entry: This is from the DVD version. At the end of the movie all four hobbits are standing in the foreground watching Gandalf turning to leave to board the ship. Look at the hobbit on the far right. He's missing a leg. (03:06:10)

Correction: The reason he is missing a leg is because he is standing in front of a stairway which is blocking his leg

Corrected entry: Watch Gollum's fingers, they change in number from six to five, on the same hand, several times.

Correction: The Gollum construct has a specific bone structure, musculature and skin setup. The number of fingers is set by this construct, which would not be changed at any point - any apparent deviation can only be an illusion.

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Corrected entry: The journey from Osgiliath to Minas Tirith is about 15-20 miles. Faramir and his men were able to make the journey within a couple of minutes. This would be physically impossible for horses to do (even Shadowfax couldn't make the journey within a couple of minutes.)

Correction: Their journey is shown using an absolutely standard cinematic technique of time compression, intercut with Pippin singing for dramatic effect - it's not meant to imply that the journey takes that length of time.

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Corrected entry: In the scene where Aragorn, Legolas and Gimli are standing in front of the entrance to Dimholt Mountain, their horses get frightened and run away with all their equipment save their weapons. Entering the tunnel, Aragorn suddenly has a torch in his hand. As it is not only a wooden stick, but a really big torch there's no way he could have hidden it in his clothes before. And it would not be logical if the dead living there kept torches for visitors at the entrance.

Correction: Since the peoble living in the Dimoldt Mountain have been alive before its only logical that there are still torches at the entrance of the tunnel - as one can even today find in many caves and tunnels for the use of whatever visitor may come along.


Corrected entry: When the heroes ride out of Minas Tirith to attack the Black Gate, there is a shot of them riding out of the gates of the city, with a fire burning the Witch King's fell beast to the far left of the screen. The problem: where has Grond, Mordor's giant battering ram, gone to?

Correction: Destroyed, along with the other siege towers and catapults. The wreckage would obviously have been cleared away as soon as possible so that travelers could enter and exit the now-safe City.

Phil C.

Corrected entry: In the scene in front of the Black Gates, when Aragorn, Gandalf and the others approach the gates, their shadows show that the light comes from their left (which by the way is north). A few moments later, when Aragon is speaking to the soldiers, the light comes from the opposite side.

Correction: That is because when Aragorn is speaking to the soldiers, he is facing away from the Black Gate. He and the others have returned from being so close (they "retreat" as it opens). This would make sense, then, that his shadow would be on his other side.

Corrected entry: Outside Shelob's Lair - before Orcs come and after Sam leaves Frodo: Apparently, Sam takes the Ring from Frodo when he takes him for dead. In order to do this, though, he would probably have to pull the chain over his head. This would be impossible because the web does not appear to be peeled back in shots after Sam has left Frodo. Even if he had simply yanked it from Frodo's neck as Frodo himself is seen doing throughout the trilogy, he would have to get it past the web on his chin. However, this, too, is impossible because that web is seen as still stuck fast to his chin and around his face afterwards.

Correction: This has already been corrected. When you see the orcs pick up Frodo, for a moment you can see that the webbing isn't tight around his chin anymore, it is pulled away slightly, thus making it possible for Sam to grab the ring.

Corrected entry: When Pippin is lying on a mat, just before he wakes up and steals the palantir, his body is the full length of the mat. On the mat next to him, which is the same length, is a full sized man, whose body is also the full length of the mat. As Pippin is a hobbit, he should be considerably shorter then the man in the next bed, but isn't.

Correction: We never see Pippin's entire body lying on the mat, thus we do not know that his body is the full length of the mat. When he rises he is shorter than the man lying next to him.

Corrected entry: When Eowyn cuts off the Nazgul's beasts head, in the next couple of shots the head is nowhere to be seen, however the head lands right beside Eowyn when she cuts it off.

Correction: The beast flaps about a lot, and pushes the head away.

Corrected entry: In the scene on Mount Doom, as Frodo runs in through the doorway, Sting (his sword) is visible at his belt. However,Sam has been carrying Sting since the Shelob scene.

Correction: The only person we see run into the doorway on Mt Doom is Sam, not Frodo.

Corrected entry: Wasn't it nice of Shelob to clean all that dirt off Frodo's face when she stung him and wrapped him in web (he has a clean face when Sam unwraps him). It was a bit mean of those orcs in Cirith Ungol to put it all back on again.

Correction: The dirt on his face my have come off with the sticky spiderweb. Orcs aren't known to be clean and would have thrown him on a dirty surface when moving him and removing his clothes.

Corrected entry: There is a sort of fly by shooting over Minas Tirith and the square on top of Gondor with the old tree on the end of the square you can see a sort of fence to prevent from falling from the edge...when Denethor II lights himself he runs over the square and jumps from it....where's the fence?

Correction: Earlier in the film, if you look closely, you can see a small gap at the very end of the walls.

Corrected entry: When the Nazgul flies past the orcs marching from the evil castle-like building by the stairs to Mordor, it flies very close to the orcs, with its beast flapping its mighty wings, probably creating large gusts of wind. Yet none of the torches being carried even flicker or blow.

Correction: The Nazgul are high above the orcs, considering the orcs are marching, the wind from the beast would have a negligible effect on the torches which are already being disturbed by the marching of the orcs.

Sol Parker

Corrected entry: In the scene where Elijah Wood is lying in bed after being rescued from Mt. Doom when the Fellowship greet him, in one shot you can see a lipstick print on his chin area as if someone kissed him between takes and they didn't notice. It is very faint but if you look hard you can see it.

Correction: Well, he certainly is adorable, but I rather doubt that's lipstick. Notice how he had cuts and dirt smudges all over his face when he was taken from Mordor, and while they did clean him up a bit in Gondor, he still had the wounds. So it's probably just a scab or a scrape or something.

Corrected entry: When Smeagol is becoming Gollum, he is in a cave and takes a fish out of the water. As he eats it, we see he has almost no teeth left. But when we see him as Gollum later, especially when he's talking to himself in the pond's water, he has MANY more teeth in his mouth then he had originally lost.

Correction: The Ring made Gollum a reptile-like creature, and extended his lifespan. Maybe it also gave him more teeth.

Corrected entry: At the beginning of the film, when the underwater shot shows Deagol being dragged along by the fish he's caught, Deagol projects no shadow onto the bottom of the river.

Correction: The sun could be at any angle, as we never see it, and if it was close to the horizon, the sun wouldn't project his shadow right under him. Also, water bends light, so the shadow might be somewhere else even if the sun is directly overhead. Furthermore, there were many trees around, which would shade the area and make shadows much harder to see.

Corrected entry: In the scene right after Aragorn, Gimli, and Legolas jump of the ship, Legolas and Gimli continue their game of who kills the most orcs. There is a shot of Legolas where he shoots an arrow and says, "15" he makes the move to grab another arrow and shoots, but there is no arrow in his hand or in the bow when he shoots it and says, "16."

Correction: Legolas does fire 2 arrows. But I doubt they are visible to the human eye in the theatre. The 16th arrow is only captured by the film in 1 or 2 frames, but is definitely there.

Corrected entry: After Frodo is paralyzed by the spider and taken captive, his captors take some of his personal effects - clothing, chain mail, and, of course, THE RING. Whoever took that ring should have been compelled to put it on (at which point Sauron would have seen it and sent his minions to recover it), and would not have just left it lying around somewhere for Sam to find later.

Correction: The orcs never took the ring. Sam did, as we discover later.

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Corrected entry: In the scene where Pippin is about to climb up and light the beacon in Minas Tirith, it is quite obviously daylight. The next scene is of the orcs arriving in ships at Osgiliath, and it is night. We see Osgiliath several times in daylight and it is never that dark. But the next scene of Pippin lighting the beacon it is day again. It would never have taken that long for him to get up that tower.

Correction: The ships arrive before Gandalf tells Pippin to light the beacons. It is just dawn when Gandalf sends Pippin up the tower. When they cut back to Osgiliath the orcs are fighting the Rangers and if you look at the sky it is getting lighter, the movie simply just goes back a few minutes before the sun rises. So this is not a mistake.

Corrected entry: When the orcs are attacking Minas Tirith, we see them loading their catapults with heavy rocks, which they've towed there on wagons. They are able to both haul them and load them with the aid of huge Cave Trolls. After they've begun their attack on the city, the guards of Minas Tirith retaliate by launching very large sections of fallen masonry back at the orcs. These are shown to be enormous and often kill about a dozen orcs in one shot. Clearly, these chunks of stone would weigh several tons. So how did the men of Minas Tirith load them onto the catapults?

Correction: The warfare of Middle Earth is much like that of medieval warfare. They used to fire huge stones from their catapults as well, and they sure didn't have cave/mountain trolls with them. All they had was horses and men, the same as the Gondorian soldiers. So, it is quite possible; especially with the use of block/tackle/other simple machines.

Corrected entry: In the scene where Pippin climbs the beacon of Minas Tirith, the shot from below shows a sentry patrolling the little bridge to the beacon. When Pippin arrives on the wood pile and looks in the direction of the bridge, the sentry is gone, and a man in a completely different uniform is sitting on the ground. The man who joins him later is not the sentry either.

Correction: The entire scene in the movie is not in 'real time', it would take Pippin much longer to actually climb to the top. Therefore, it is reasonable that the locations and identities of sentries in various shots would change during the duration of Pippin's climb.

Corrected entry: Just after Frodo has destroyed the ring, he and Sam are lying on a large rock surrounded by lava and discussing the shire. In the shots looking down on them talking, there is water, in the top right corner, running between the slabs of rock they are lying on.

Correction: Uh, no. What you MAY be talking about is the white hot lava combined with the shimmering heat waves. That shot was probably completely digital, so I doubt the filmmakers would put in such a big mistake.

Corrected entry: When Frodo has been trapped in the spider's web, he escapes from it, and you see that he is all wrapped in it. Then he hits a large rock, and suddenly almost all the web is gone.


Correction: Watch closely as Frodo exits the tunnel, he grabs & pulls the strands of web almost completely off. There are still some strands around his shoulders.

Corrected entry: When Frodo is in the tower, the camera pans from his hips up. If you look closely at his pant line, you can see the rim of his underwear. You can even see Hanes written on it.

Correction: These are not modern undergarments. They are period undergarments that are held up with either buttons or ties, not elastic. (I looked specifically for this after hearing "you can see his underwear" rumors).

Corrected entry: At the end of the movie, when Sam and Frodo are helping Bilbo down to the dock where the elves are waiting, Frodo is on Bilbo's right, which means that Frodo is holding onto Bilbo with his left hand, the one that Gollum bit the finger off. Yet the finger is completely intact.

Correction: Look closely; his index finger is shorter than it should be & has some scarring.

Corrected entry: When Denethor has set himself on fire he runs from the room and outside before throwing himself from the tower, from the view he would have had to run quite a distance, maybe even half a mile. This is impossible, he is drenched in oil and blazing, he would be dead before he made it that far.

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Correction: Denethor had adrenaline rushing through his veins so he did have the power to run the distance.

Corrected entry: If you look closely at the black gates when they are first shown, you can see that this shot was filmed in the dry delta or bed of a river, the strange thing is that there are no tracks other than the ones made by the horses. There should be plenty of traffic going through there.

Sol Parker

Correction: Mordor is a land of poisonous fume and ash. New fallen ash or wind blowing the ash around could account for the missing footprints of marching armies.

Corrected entry: In the end of the scene where Frodo has been wrapped in the web by the spider, Frodo is supposed to be frozen in a coma-like state, with his eyes fixed wide open and straight ahead. In the final shot, you can see Frodo's eye (from Frodo's point of view, his right eye) move slightly to look sideways.

Correction: I found this on Watch carefully - when Sam adjusts Frodo's head ("don't go where I can't follow"), his eyes move slightly. Elijah Wood might have been looking at something to keep his eyes still, but when his head was passively moved, his eyes continued to fixate on whatever it was he was looking at. Don't know whether or not PJ and Elijah were aware of this, but this is precisely how a comatose (but not dead) person's eyes often work; if you turn the head from side to side, the eyes continue to look straight ahead as if tracking a stationary object as the head moves. The phenomenon is referred to as "Doll's eyes" (old-fashioned dolls had eyes weighted to behave this way). Frodo in that scene was NOT dead, so the eye movement was quite appropriate. -

Corrected entry: As the Riders of Rohan are preparing to charge into the Battle of the Pelennor Fields, King Theoden gives a rallying speech to his troops. All throughout this scene, Theoden holds his sword with his right hand. But in every other fighting sequence (and in 'The Two Towers') Theoden shows his capabilities as a LEFT-handed swordsman. I read an interview where Bernard Hill explained that the image was flipped for that scene, but it does cause a continuity problem.

Correction: Theoden carries the sword in his right hand so he can touch his riders' spear tips before the battle. Otherwise, he'd be crossing over. When you see him slashing at an Orc soon after, he is doing it left-handed.

Corrected entry: In the scene where Sam and Frodo are on the rock surrounded by lava on the side of Mount Doom, and have finished talking about the Shire and so on, Frodo's left hand comes up to comfort Sam just before the scene cuts away to the next. When it does you see his whole finger in the shot, none of it missing, no blood or anything like that.

Correction: Frodo's right arm goes around Sam's shoulder and his right hand is visible, we don't see Frodo's fingers on his left hand in this particular shot.

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Corrected entry: When Frodo and Sam are in the cave on Mt.Doom, after Gollum bites the ring off of Frodo's finger he takes the ring off the finger and the finger falls to the ground. In the next shot, however, when Gollum holds the ring up and the camera angle is straight above him, looking down, the finger is has mysteriously disappeared.

Correction: Gollum tosses the finger. It's most likely incinerated by that moment.

Corrected entry: When Faramir and his soldiers are riding to Minas Tirith, the Nazgul attack and dozens of riders are killed. Yet in the wideshots showing Gandalf's approach and the soldiers' advance, no bodies are left behind, they simply disappear.

Correction: If you look to the bottom left of the screen you can see that there are dead horses and men lying there.

Corrected entry: In the scene where Gollum has just blamed Sam for eating all the lembas and Frodo is convincing Sam to go back home, tear tracks are visible on Sam's face before he actually starts crying. The tracks are obvious, since his face is thoroughly dirty by this point and the tears have cleaned parts of his cheeks.

Correction: Actually, Sam's been leaking tears for some time before he breaks down.

Corrected entry: When Frodo has his arms around Sam when they are on the rock in the middle of the lava, his "missing" finger is tucked completely under his hand on Sam's shoulder. Usually there is a stub visible, about to the first knuckle, but in this shot, it is completely gone, down to the hand. There is also considerably less blood.

Correction: The arm that is around Sam's shoulder is not the one with the missing finger. Gollum bit the finger off Frodo's left hand, and his right hand is on Sam's shoulder.

Corrected entry: One of the men riding with Faramir back to Osgiliath is the same man that we see a couple of close-ups of at the black gate near the end. Faramir was the only man to survive after riding back from Osgiliath.

Correction: It's hard to tell whether it's the exact same man or not. It could be his brother, we don't know.

Corrected entry: In the scene where the Rohirrim ride into the Pelennor Fields, there is a closeup shot of Eomer riding a horse with a spear in his left hand. It appears that Eomer is reaching offscreen for his spear.

Correction: Éomer does not reach off screen, he holds his own spear the entire time. He tosses it in the air while riding and turns his hand to grasp the spear differently.

Corrected entry: When Sam leaves Frodo to the orcs, he is still up to his neck in the web. Yet later Sam tells Frodo he has the ring and all. How could he get it off of Frodo without ripping the web?

Correction: At first it appears that the webbing has not been moved, but when the orcs are picking him up, you can see for a second that the webbing is no longer tight under Frodo's chin like it was when Sam first ripped it. It is open further down his neck, so Sam could have pulled the ring out.

Corrected entry: In the scene where Gandalf and Pippin are standing at a balcony in Minas Tirith before the battle, the actor playing Pippin is standing on his knees besides Gandalf to make proportions seem right. This makes it look like Pippin have extremely short legs.

Correction: This shot was most likely done as forced perspective, with two dimensioned split-sets lining up to look like one. Pippin looks completely to scale in that shot.

Corrected entry: In one scene in Rivendell, Liv Tyler is seen wearing a blue velvet dress. It then changes to red when she's reading the book. When she drops the book it falls onto the hem of a blue dress.

Correction: This segment isn't shot in realtime. She's wearing the blue dress (called the Requiem Dress) earlier, yes, but then she switches to the Blood Red Dress, which has a black skirt and might be mistaken for a dark, navy blue at first. But it's definitely the same dress.

Corrected entry: After the Rohirrim crush through the orcs and the huge elephants come from the direction of Osgiliath, there is a river going straight through the city and they come from the far South anyway, so why are they marching on Minas Tirith from the East? There is no way they came over the river, and I doubt they can fly.

Correction: There's no route from the far south to Minas Tirith that doesn't cross the river at some point, so there has to be some way for the Mumakil to cross - most likely they were simply taken upstream until the river was shallow enough, then they waded across, before being brought to join the attack force moving against Minas Tirith.

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Corrected entry: In the scene where the beacons are being lit to call the Rohirrim to the aid of Gondor, no smoke is visible from the massive piles of burning wood.

Correction: Only wet wood will make much smoke. Wood that has been lying high and dry and protected for a long time will not.


Corrected entry: When Frodo is being held prisoner in the tower, Sam comes to rescue him & uses Sting to kill the orc that was there with Frodo. Sam stabs the orc with the sword & draws it back out, but no orc blood is ever seen on Sting. Often other scenes with orcs being stabbed show orc blood on the blades.

Correction: Except that Sting is an ancient blade of Gondolin, forged long ago in the First Age, and has been shown to have magical properties. As a matter of fact, there have never been any shots of Sting with blood on its blade, in ANY of the films. This is merely carrying on the tradition.

Phil C.

Corrected entry: When the Nazgul swoop in to attack the diversionary force at the Black Gate, several eagles intercept them and begin battling them in the air. When Frodo puts on the ring and Sauron becomes aware of him, the Nazgul ride their beasts directly towards Mount Doom. It's easy for them to do this, since there are suddenly no eagles anywhere to be seen. They didn't fly away and weren't killed by the Nazgul, since three of them assist in the rescue of Frodo and Sam following Mount Doom's eruption. So what happened to them?

Correction: The eagles don't follow the Nazgul into Mordor - they stay behind to help defend the Gondor and Rohan forces against the ground forces assaulting them. As such, the Nazgul are able to head for Mount Doom unopposed.

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Corrected entry: When Aragorn, Legolas and Gimli are going to the Paths of the Dead, a wide shot reveals that the paths leading to it are too well trodden for a place that everyone avoids.

Correction: People did go there, only no one ever returned.

Corrected entry: You can see a severely wounded King Theoden lying partially under his horse on the Pelennor Fields after being attacked by the Witch King. The length of his legs are out of proportion, since you can see his waist above the horse's back, and a large part of his lower leg underneath the horse's belly.

Correction: Actually you can only see his feet and a bit of the lower leg, and the width of the horse's stomach was not that large, so it is most likely in proportion.

Corrected entry: Sam is shown as being as tall as Rosie. In Fellowship of the Ring Sam is a head shorter than her, which is especially obvious in the shot where Sam and Rosie are dancing.

Correction: This is an illusion. Sarah McLeod has played Rosie in all shots when she and Sam are seen together, and Sean Astin has always played Sam in the shots where he is with Rosie. Neither actor nor actress has changed their height that drastically, so any "obvious" differences in height are only illusory.

Phil C.

Corrected entry: After Merry stabs the Witch king, he falls backwards holding his arm. Though when Pippin finds him after the battle, Merry is lying next to an oliphaunt with an orc on top of him. How did Merry end up with an orc on top of him?


Correction: The battle isn't over just because the Witch-King is dead. The orc fell over Merry sometime between the Witch-King's death and Pippin's arrival.

Corrected entry: When Frodo goes invisible in Mount Doom and is fighting with Gollum, why are footprints even made? His feet are not wet and the ground is hard rock - this is simply a cinematic effect to show where he is; there is no justification for the footprints other than this.

David Mercier

Correction: The footprints are being made in the ash on the floor.

Garlonuss Premium member

Corrected entry: When Frodo is stung by Shelob and wrapped up, Sam appears a good 20 feet away, ALREADY carrying Sting and the Phial of Galadriel. He couldn't have collected these items from Frodo's body. In the book, Frodo and Sam enter the cave together, and Frodo gives these items to Sam, but that wasn't possible here.

Correction: Sam didn't collect them from Frodo's body. He dropped the Phial in the cave, and his sword was caught on Shelob's webs.


Corrected entry: Merry and Pippin drink Ent draughts in TTT and grow taller. At the end of ROTK when all the hobbits are standing together (Aragorn's crowning in Minas Tirith) Merry and Pippin are no taller than they were to start with (compare with the group shot at the Council of Elrond in FOTR as one example). Yes, Merry does say "everything's back to normal", but that's because they've had equal amounts of the draught so he's back to being the tallest. The book states the effect is the draught is permanent, and the film doesn't suggest otherwise.

STP Premium member

Correction: I think they are, and are intended to be, taller than before, but not noticeably. The book implies they became considerably taller, but the movie specifically indicates only two inches. In the last scene, when Frodo is saying his final farewells, he is slightly shorter than either Merry or Pippin.

Bob Blumenfeld Premium member

Corrected entry: Obscure one, here; in one of the books released about Lord of the Rings, it discusses the difference between normal Gondorion helmets and Citadel Guard helmets. Citadel Guards helmets have bronze wings carved to the side of them. Yet, when Pippin is made a Citadel Guard, he is given a standard Gondorion helmet. I also think he's given the wrong armor, too; he's given what looks like the armor of the Fountain Guard instead of the Citadel Guard.

Correction: Pippin's armor is actually Faramir's childhood armor. This point will likely be made clear in the Extended Edition, and is confirmed in the Weapons and Warfare book.

Corrected entry: When Aragorn, Gandalf, Legolas etc. are approaching the Black Gate, you can see Gimli on the back of Eomer's horse. Yet when Gimli speaks his line you can see part of Legolas' arm and chest in front of him. In the next (wide) shot Gimli is on Eomer's horse again.

Correction: That's Merry on Eomer's horse.

Tailkinker Premium member

Corrected entry: Numerology comes into fruition in this movie a lot. The number three comes a number of times. There are of course the three heroes, Aragorn, Legolas and Gimli and the ring party consisting of Sam, Frodo and Gollum. When Sam and Frodo are rescued there are the three eagles which come to rescue them. At the end of the film it is stated that the time of the elves is over and thus their three rings are cast aside for the time of man. Also Sam's house is the number three.

Tobin OReilly

Correction: Sorry, but this is crossing the line into "coincidence". All of these "items" are directly from the books, and Tolkien was every bit the dry, professorial type who would have had no truck with numerology.

Phil C.

Corrected entry: In the first movie, it is established that hobbit children have pointed ears. Yet Elanor, whom we see at the very end, does not have them.

Peter Weekes

Correction: Elanor does have pointed ears - visible when being carried by her father.

Tailkinker Premium member

Corrected entry: In the scene where Aragorn is saddling up to enter the Paths of the Dead, he straps Anduril on to Brego. When Eowyn approaches and the camera shot changes from Aragorn's right to his left, Anduril is clasped under Aragorn's left arm. When the shot changes back to the right view, Anduril is again strapped on Brego.

Correction: What is under his left arm is Anduril, what is strapped to Brego's saddle is the sheath.

Corrected entry: Early in the film, Frodo, Sam, and Gollum are camped out inside a diamond-shaped structure. When the structure is shown from the outside, the diamond appears taller and thinner than when shown from inside looking out.

Jon Nicholas

Correction: The upper edge of the diamond is built out as well as up, so its appearance changes a lot depending on the camera angle.

STP Premium member

Corrected entry: At the end when Gandalf says goodbye to the hobbits, there is shot of him holding his staff in his right hand. A ring can be seen on his finger. After Frodo says goodbye to the hobbits, Gandalf is shown again, only the ring is on his left hand.

Correction: The ring is on his left hand, middle finger, the entire scene.

Corrected entry: Right after the dead guys clear the battlefield, there are a few shots of the heroes and it is very smoky in the background. Through the smoke we can see rolling hills in the near background. The problem is, these are not supposed to be there, when we see all the overhead shots, it is an enormous flat plain with a river and a city, etc. It just doesn't match up.

Sol Parker

Correction: Minas Tirith, capital of Gondor, is built into a mountainside, which is seen from most shots of it. It follows that it's part of a mountain range with foothills. Pellenor Fields, the plains, lie between Minas Tirith and Osgiliath, while the hills behind Minas Tirith and beside the Fields, where you see the Riders of Rohan line up on. This is why you'd see the hills while looking through the dead guys, who are standing between the camera and Minas Tirith

Corrected entry: In the scene where Legolas and Aragorn are talking outside the hall in Edoras, Legolas has a bump of some sort on his forehead. Just after he says "He is here", the bump disappears, never to be seen again.

Correction: It's not a bump. As he's talking, he creases his forehead and moves his eyebrows in deep concentration. The "bump" is a shadow on his face in one of these creases and you can see it come and go throughout the scene when there is no cuts to a different shot.

Corrected entry: The mountain that Sam and Frodo came tumbling down outside the Black Gate in The Two Towers was gone when Aragorn and the rest show up there in Return of The King.

Correction: That ridge was offset from the center of the Gate, considerably to the right. When Aragorn and company take the last stand before the Gate, they're in the center, to the left of the ridge (as seen by the cameras).

Corrected entry: Throughout the three films, Mount Doom is always shown spewing lava from its summit. This suggests that the lava is full to the brim. When Frodo and company reach the mountain, however, there's a large, open door leading into the center of the mountain. There is no evidence that lava has ever flowed through the door. Once inside, the lava level is hundreds of feet below them, but moments before lava was still spewing out the very top of the mountain.

Jon Nicholas

Correction: It is quite possible as with any volcano that there are separate lava tubes at the surface, obviously the entire mountain could not be hollow because it would collapse in on itself.

Sol Parker

Corrected entry: How did Shelob's sting get through Frodo if he was wearing his mithril vest? Its obvious he wasn't stung higher or lower than where the vest was. The scar we later see is too large for the stinger to be small enough to have slipped between the links of the vest.

Correction: The scar from Shelob's sting is around the area of the neckline of the Mithril coat.

Super Grover Premium member

Corrected entry: When Gandalf and Pippin are talking about death, there are spots of what seems to be water on Gandalf's sword, they change between shots. It's not orc blood because it is clear.

Sol Parker

Correction: It is possible that it was water drops on his sword. I am sure that some of the people or soldiers were using water to help put out the fires. It is possible that Gandalf was splashed with some water, even though we did not see it specifically happen.

Bruce Minnick

Corrected entry: When Frodo runs into Shelob's spider webs (the one where Gollum is on the other side) you can see that he is about a foot from the ground as if he jumped into the webs. Really he only ran into them so his feet should still be touching the ground.

Correction: Shelob's webs are very elastic. It's entirely feasible that his momentum carried him into the webs, he contorted the shape, then the webs sprung back, this time with him in the air.

Corrected entry: In the scene at the top of the Tower of Cirith Ungol, Sam says something to the shirtless Frodo like, "We better find you some clothes Mr. Frodo". They leave the tower wearing orc armor; however, within the next few scenes the hobbits shed their armor only to reveal Frodo wearing his original clothes.

Correction: They find Frodo's clothes, they'd been removed by the orcs, but not lost. Frodo was merely wearing the clothes under the armor.

Corrected entry: In the final scenes of the movie, when Frodo is writing in his book you can see that it is written in fairly large calligraphic script on parchment paper. The final book is too thin to contain both "There and Back Again" (The Hobbit) and "The Lord of the Rings". The text is larger than book print, parchment is thicker than paper, and my copy of the Hobbit is thicker than that book.

Correction: Though they share the same titles, it's never suggested that the stories that Frodo and Bilbo have penned are identical to, or even bear any resemblance to the text of Tolkein's works. There's no reason they ought to be the same length or that Frodo's account shouldn't fit into a smaller space.

Corrected entry: After Sam stabs the orc who is about to stab Frodo, Sting no longer glows blue. However, there were loads of orcs downstairs, about 7 metres away.

Correction: The orcs downstairs are all dead. They died when they were fighting each other. Sam was able to rescue Frodo without a problem because of this.

Corrected entry: In the Two Towers Faramir is shown holding Boromir's broken horn. In Return of the King their father has it despite the fact that Faramir is still in Osgiliath.

Correction: A day or two has passed at this point - Faramir could have sent the horn to his father in the interim.

Tailkinker Premium member

Corrected entry: As Aragorn rides toward the Black Gate, an accompanying soldier holds the black flag of Gondor. The flag appears completely white as they retreat when the army of Mordor begins to march out. It is black again in the next shot.

Correction: It is the same flag. If you watch carefully as they ride towards the Black Gate, when the flag 'flaps' in certain ways, it appears to change to a silvery/white colour. I believe that this is just the type of fabric used for the flag that causes this rather than them using a white flag.

Richard Holmes

Corrected entry: How could Eowyn have cut the nazgul's "steed's" head clean off? It had armour on and her sword wasn't as long as the neck was wide.

gandolfs dad

Correction: There was only armor on the head, and she takes several quick slices.

Sol Parker

Corrected entry: In the scene where Frodo is helped by Galadriel in Shelob's lair (in the "dream sequence") he lays on the ground. In his hair on HIS right side (viewers' left) is what appears to be some clovers or leaves or grass. The camera cuts to Galadriel then back to Frodo, the thing in his hair is gone. The camera cuts to her again and back to Frodo, the thing is back in his hair.

Correction: It does not actually disappear. It's a leaf of a greenish-yellow color, which is more visible when viewed from a particular angle. Frodo's head has tilted slightly in the second shot which is enough to present us with the edge of the leaf only, making it much less obvious - but it's still definitely there.

Phil C.

Corrected entry: In the scene where the pachyderm animals of Mordor are introduced in the battle, there's a shot that pans the front of the line of them. One animal has wood connecting its larger tusks, complete with barbs jutting out from the wood. As the orcs flee to regroup behind the animals, several run through the contraption unharmed.

Correction: No, they don't. Some do run underneath the wooden connector as the Mumak swings its tusks upwards, but most do not make it past and are sent crashing to the ground.

Phil C.

Corrected entry: When everyone is leaving to go to the battle at the black gate, Minas Tirith is shown as a battle-scarred city, with burned, gaping holes in the walls and towers from the damaging barrage of catapult-thrown boulders. The next time we're shown the city, after the battle, it's all fixed up.

Correction: That's because quite a bit of time has passed between the Battle of the Pelennor Fields and the coronation of Aragorn as King. The timeline in the books shows it as nearly two months, but the film appears to imply that even more time has passed, by this and other evidences (Arwen is fully recovered, Frodo is fully healed, and more).

Phil C.

Corrected entry: If Frodo was indeed stabbed by Shelob, never in the rest of the movie is there any evidence that he was stabbed, even if all the stinger did was "stun" him. Shouldn't there be a big gaping, bleeding hole somewhere in his midsection? That stinger was pretty large.

Correction: A large (about the size of a golf ball) greenish wound can be seen on Frodo's upper chest (slightly to the right) throughout the subsequent scenes. Since Shelob wants to keep Frodo alive for later enjoyment, her poison apparently seals the wound to keep him from bleeding to death.

Corrected entry: Gollum bites off the tip of Frodo's finger, you can see it squirt some blood. But then when Frodo is writing the book and the scenes that follow Frodo's finger is intact.

Correction: Frodo's finger is completely bitten off by Gollum. At the end of the movie, his wound has healed but there is no finger, only a stub (he writes with his right hand at the end, not his left).

Corrected entry: During the Charge of the Rohirrim (Pelennor Fields), Gandalf is visible leading the charge. This is impossible because he is inside Minas Tirith, not leading the charge onto to the surrounding fields.

Correction: Gandalf ís still inside Mina Tirith, what you see in the front is the white horse Théoden is riding.

Corrected entry: In the scene where Sam is climbing up the stairs of the Orc tower to rescue Frodo, Sam is confronted by a contingent of Orcs coming down. Apparently elven swords are orc-blood resistant, for after skewering at least two Sam's blade is still bright, clean silver.

Correction: The sword is Sting. It's true to the book for it to stay clean.


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