New this week Corrected entry: When the orc and warg army attack on the hillside, when the Rohirrim army ride over the hill to fight, Legolas, standing ahead of the army jumps around and onto his horse, with Gimli already on it. The shot cuts to the orcs and wargs riding across the hillside. The next shot is of the Rohirrim army riding across the hillside. The next shot after that is of Legolas riding on his horse, but it is not Gimli that is sitting behind him. It looks like he has been replaced by a stand-in wearing battle armour.Casual Person
Corrected entry: At Henneth Annun, Sam suggests to Frodo to use the Ring to escape. Frodo and Sam are sitting in front of three barrels and also in the room are sacks, a crate and candles burning behind them. When Faramir arrives, Frodo and Sam are now sitting on blankets, there are no barrels in sight, the walls are different, there is an extra crate, with food on one and the candles are grouped differently. (01:52:45 - 01:53:45)
Corrected entry: During the castle siege, the orcs place a few containers of explosive in the sewer outlet. As the carriers leave the tunnel, you can see multiple orcs in the immediate area with torches that would be able to ignite it right away with nearly no chance of being stopped rather than an orc running in like an Olympic torch carrier, drawing extra attention which catches Aragon's attention to try bringing him down. It of course is much more visually entertaining this way, but made no practical sense when there were already torch bearers right there.
Corrected entry: After the battle at Helms Deep some of the main characters, including Gandalf, Aragorn, Legolas and Gimli, ride a short distance away from Helms Deep, looking directly away from the city and out towards Mordor. That is impossible, because Helms Deep faces North, which is the way they are facing, and Mordor is to the East. Even if the group did look to the East it would be highly unlikely that they would see Mordor even then, as it is too far away.
Corrected entry: In the extended DVD when Eomer finds the king's son, there's a black and yellow bit of tape lying around.
Corrected entry: When Pippin and Merry are on the backs of the Uruks, Pippin takes off his brooch with his teeth, leaving his cloak untied. In subsequent shots, however, the robe is tied; this is impossible, as his arms were tied around the front of the Uruk, while his cloak was on the back of the Uruk.
Corrected entry: After the Entmoot, Pippin convinces Treebeard to take them south toward Isengard. Ents have long legs and can travel at a pace equivalent to a briskly walking human. The Entmoot was also obviously nowhere near Isengard, as some of the Ents would otherwise have blundered on to the destruction beforehand. So we can take it as written that Treebeard carried Merry and Pippin some distance south before finding the scene of destruction. In that time, all the other Ents would have been travelling back toward where they came from - ie, not in the same direction that Treebeard was moving. However, when Treebeard discovers what Saruman has been doing, he sends out the call to all the other Ents - and they immediately walk out of the forest.
Corrected entry: When Aragorn, Legolas, and Gimli first enter Fangorn Forest, they leave their horses behind. Then, when they leave the forest with Gandalf, after Shadowfax comes and Gandalf says "He has been my friend through many dangers," they all ride off together. Arod and Hasufel just come out of nowhere.
Corrected entry: When Saruman is speaking to the "tens of thousands" of Orcs from atop the tower, watch the shots closely that were taken from behind Saruman. If you watch his head and the side of his face, you can see his head moving like he's talking, but all you hear at that point is Orcs yelling, obviously alluding to the fact that he was saying a line when that shot was filmed, but it was edited out.rstill
Corrected entry: In the Oliphaunt scene, when the Oliphaunt starts going mad, you can see one of its feet pass right through a little group of Southrons. (01:44:45)
Corrected entry: Merry and Pippin are brought by Treebeard to see Gandalf in Fangorn. Later, Aragorn, Legolas, and Gimli are told by Gandalf that the hobbits had been there. Then Aragorn mentions Gandalf's name, and he recalls that as being his name. Now, during the hobbits' prior meeting with Gandalf, one of them would have probably called him by his name, and therefore, he would have heard it before Aragorn gets there.
Corrected entry: As the Uruk-hai run along with Merry and Pippin on their backs, Merry pulls the Elven brooch from his cloak with his teeth and throws it to the ground, hoping Aragorn and anyone else tracking them will find it. In every subsequent scene with the Uruk-hai, into Fangorn Forest, and at the Entmoot, Merry still has his Elven brooch fastening his cloak at the throat.
Corrected entry: In Fellowship, we see that the boat carrying Boromir's body and weapons toppled on it's plunge over the falls of Rauros. In Two Towers, when Faramir gazed upon his brother's body, the boat appears to be intact, the sword and shield are still in the same position and Boromir seems more or less peaceful (despite his head facing a different way from the last film).
Corrected entry: Near the beginning of the movie when we see Gollum struggling with Frodo and Sam, Gollum drags Sam onto the ground and starts strangling him. Just before Frodo draws Sting and says "This is Sting..." there is a wide shot, and Gollum's arm is already underneath Sam's chin and he is so relaxed that it is clear he is NOT being strangled. However, in the next close-up shot, Sam makes a hiccup noise and Smeagol's arm slips under Sam's chin again.
Corrected entry: In Helms Deep, at several times, the command "fire" is used. This command only concerns fire weapons, not bows. The correct command would be "loose".
Corrected entry: At Helm's Deep when the Uruks are standing outside screaming, you can see one of the Uruks in a close up. His teeth in the back of his mouth are white and are not carnivore teeth.
Corrected entry: In the opening scene where Gandalf is falling with the Balrog watch his hair; obviously, when falling at that speed, his hair should be pointing straight up for the whole scene (or behind him depending on his position) but for almost the whole falling scene, his hair is on his shoulders and not moving very much. (00:03:00)
Corrected entry: The climax of the Battle of Helm's Deep was based on an actual historical event: In 1672, King Louis XIV invaded the Netherlands. The Dutch thwarted the attack by cutting Holland's dikes, flooding the land and forcing the French troops to retreat.
Corrected entry: It is rather astonishing that the German dubbed version is following Tolkien's guidelines for pronunciation more closely than the original English version. In the Appendixes to the novel (Appendix F, 'On Translation') Tolkien states that Sam's name is not of Hebraic origin but being short for 'Samwise' (an Anglosaxon word, Tolkien being lecturer for Anglosaxon and Old English) and therefore not to be pronounced similar to 'Sam' as being the abbreviation for 'Samuel'. Instead he would have had this name pronounced [sahm] (the 'a' like in British English 'fast'). Likewise goes for placenames as 'Isengard' ('Isen' rhyming with 'treason').
Corrected entry: Gandalf, Aragorn, Legolas and Gimli first approach Edoras, and Gandalf talks about the king's mind being overthrown. It then cuts to inside the Golden Hall, where Eowyn is telling her uncle about his dead son. She is wearing a gray dress, and her hair is pulled back on the sides. Then it cuts back to Gandalf and Co. riding up to the town, then back to Eowyn tending to her dead cousin. This should only be a few minutes later, as the group is still riding up to Edoras, but now Eowyn has on a white dress, and all her hair is down. She then goes outside in her white dress, and sees the group approaching.Krista
Corrected entry: When Faramir shows the hobbits and Gollum how they can leave Osgiliath, he says that the sewer "runs right under the river through to the edge of the city". Why would anyone bother to build a sewer under the river? Their job is to discharge waste into the river to be carried away. (01:37:40)
Corrected entry: At the end of the battle of helms deep, Gandalf arrives from the East to save the day just as he tells Aragorn he will earlier. However, quoting from the book: "Upon the east too shear and stony was the valley's side; upon the left, from the west, their final doom approached". Their final doom being Gandalf, Erkenbrand Lord of Westfold and a thousand men on foot. (01:25:55)
Corrected entry: When Legolas makes his unlikely grab-and-jump onto the horse with Gimli as the warg riders approach, he is seen to be mounting the horse behind Gimli. A few moments later, we see him expertly shooting down enemies from his position in front of Gimli on the horse. His mounting of the horse seems like an easy maneuvre compared to either forward flipping over the Dwarf or grabbing the Dwarf and tossing him over his head (which Gimli would have taken as an insult anyway).
Corrected entry: When Aragorn, Legolas and Gimli encounter Eomer and his Riders on the Plains of Rohan, they have a little talk before Eomer leaves, crying "We ride North." But Aragorn has been running west, pursuing the Uruk-Hai, so is to the south of Fangorn Forest. Eomer has just come from Fangorn, where he slaughtered the Uruks, so he has just come from the North. If you have a map of Middle-Earth, have a look at it, and you can see that Eomer has come from the North so should, technically, be riding east or west.
Corrected entry: Just after Gollum is captured by Faramir's men and has had a hood placed over his head, there's a shot where 3 archers have their bows trained on him and Frodo. The archer on the upper right is illustrating the proper way to hold a bow. The archer on the lower left has his index finger wrapped around the arrow to steady it. If he released the string, the feathers would tear his finger to shreds like a monstrous papercut, and the arrow's flight would be completely screwed up. (Submitted by an archer who has learned the hard way.) (01:33:10)
Corrected entry: In the scene where Eomer of Rohan gives Aragorn, Legolas and Gimli two horses it seems they have appeared out of thin air. When you get a birdseye view of the riders you can see no free horses and when Aragorn calls them back there are no free horses. It can't be that other riders volunteered them, as Eomer states that he hopes that Aragorn, Legolas and Gimli are more fortunate than their original owners, indicating that they perished in the battle with the Uruk-hai.
Corrected entry: In the scene at the end of the extended edition where Legolas and Gimli are comparing their battle scores, Legolas is wearing a long sword in a sheath hanging from his belt. At no other time in the movie does Legolas have a sword, even after he dons armour for the Battle of Helm's Deep. He has his bow, and his two knives which he occasionally whips out of the sheath on his back.
Corrected entry: In the Warg battle scene, Gimli is being charged by a creature and Legolas shoots it for him. He yells out, "That one was mine." and is surprised by another behind him. He strikes it, and it falls on him. Look at the axe in the shot where they fall - the handle is facing the wrong direction.
Corrected entry: In the scene where the uruks plant the bombs in the culvert at Helm's Deep and then proceed to blow it up. You see in one shot that the culvert has not been dammed/blocked in any way and in another shot you see a small stream of water flowing freely through it. Why then do we see such a torrent of water flowing trough the gap once a hole is blasted in the wall? (02:12:45 - 02:13:50)
Corrected entry: During the fight in Gondor (before Frodo and Sam were released), the camera gives us a bit of a view of the archers. One archer that is crouched behind a stone piece is seen dodging arrows that aren't there. Then all of a sudden he collapses onto the rock, although he was never actually hit by anything.
Corrected entry: Because the title of the film is very similar to a nickname of the World Trade Center towers ("Twin Towers") and their connection to the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks, director Peter Jackson considered changing it, but quickly decided against it because of fan opposition.megamii
Corrected entry: In the film, the two towers in the title refer to the fortress of Barad-dur, and the tower of Orthanc. In the book, the two towers being referred to were the towers of Orthanc and Cirith Ungol, but since the film makers cut the half of the story which tells of Cirith Ungol to add into Return of the King, they had to have the second tower refer to Barad-dur.
Corrected entry: In the battle of Helm's Deep, why would the Uruk-Hai try so hard to storm the fortress gates when a huge section of the wall had just been blown up? That particular area wasn't being heavily defended.
Corrected entry: Just a small strategic moan, why would they have a long straight bridge/causeway up to the only weak point in the Hornburg's walls, i.e. the Gate, this just invites your foe to get a good run up with a battering ram, if they had either used a sharp turn or curve as they came up for a final approach to the gate, the orcs wouldn't be able to get the ram up to speed.
Corrected entry: Near the beginning of the film, Sam and Frodo are climbing down a hill. You can see that Frodo is at the bottom of the hill and Sam is near the top right handside of the hill. The shot changes and Sam is at the bottom of the hill with Frodo. That means Sam climbed down the hill in about 2 seconds.
Corrected entry: When Sam is cooking the rabbits, Gollum goes mad and shouts 'What's it doing? Stupid fat hobbit. You ruins it.' - to cook the rabbits, Sam must have skinned them, cut them up, made a fire and found water to cook the meat in. All that must have taken a fairly long time to do, so why is Gollum asking what Sam is doing with the rabbits NOW insted of before?
Corrected entry: When hiding behind the rocks and looking at Mordor, Frodo and Sam are more than willing to make a run through the black gate behind the entering column of soldiers. How on earth might they get in unnoticed, even assuming they somehow would manage to make it as far as to the gate despite the guards (which simply must exist) watching above?S.Holmes
Corrected entry: During the defense of Helm's Deep, as King Theoden barricades the main door, he is stabbed through the breastplate by a massive Urak-Hai spear. In later scenes, his breastplate is shown undamaged. This is definitely Theoden both times - he goes down to help barricade the door, and a few moments later directs the soldiers doing this, just after telling Aragorn he can use 'as much time as you can give me'. He is seen shortly after looking at Aragorn and Gimli through the shattered gate just before the last piece of wood is put in place, yelling 'get out of there.'biglew909
Corrected entry: The stew pot that Sam cooks the conies in is much bigger than the one he has been carrying around on his back.
Corrected entry: In Edoras, when Wormtongue is 'charming' Eowyn, his hand is clearly on her face and his person is only inches away. When Eowyn retaliates with words and gets Wormtongue's hand away from her, the next shot shows that they are over 6 feet apart from each other.
Corrected entry: When it starts raining in the battle, all of the torches are still lit, and it seems to be raining very hard.
Corrected entry: Right after the death of Haldir, Aragorn pushes and rides one of the ladders down into the Uruk army. Then we cut to the Uruks breaking through the main gate. Then when Aragorn is shown again, he has magically made it back through the breach, up the stairs to the other door, before it was shut and barricaded. (02:24:16)
Corrected entry: When Merry and Pippin first meet Treebeard, the Ent is uncertain whether or not the hobbits are Orcs. He says the White Wizard will know and then they meet up with Gandalf. But later at the Ent Gathering it takes them forever to decide that they are not Orcs. Wouldn't have Gandalf already confirmed this for Treebeard and perhaps inform the Ents about the destruction at Isengard as well?
Corrected entry: When Aragorn and company first encounter the Riders of Rohan, we see that there are only about 50 men at most in the group. Before Theoden leads his people to Helms Deep, Gandalf leaves to find Eomer and his riders to aid in its defense. During the final battle, Gandalf returns with the Riders of Rohan, but now there are hundreds, if not thousands of men with him. Where did all of these "extra" men come from?
Corrected entry: In the scene where Gandalf and company arrives at The Golden Hall in Edoras and Gandalf prepares to end Saruman's hold on Theoden, Gandalf can be seen wearing the leaf brooch on his cloak, keeping it intact, like the rest of the now split up fellowship. But then the wizard discards the cloak to reveal his white robe as if nothing held it in place.
Corrected entry: When Gandalf, Aragorn, Legolas and Gimli enter the King of Rohan's chamber, Aragorn, Legolas and Gimli start knocking down soldiers to protect Gandalf. When they have finished, there is a shot taken from behind and one of the beaten soldiers is lying on the floor playing with his hair, curling it around his finger.
Corrected entry: It's the scene where the mother is telling her kids to get on the horse. Towards the beginning of the scene there is a guy standing there holding the horse still but when the mother is putting her little kid on the horse, he disappears.
Corrected entry: In the Helm's Deep scene when the orcs charge the castle and begin to prop up the first set of short ladders, Aragorn yells "Ladders." in Elvish. Gimli shouts in response, "Good." However, Gimli most certainly does not speak or understand Elvish. In the extended version of The Fellowship of the Ring, Gimli grows angry when those around him are speaking Elvish, and speaks Dwarfish to anger them in return. (02:15:07)
Corrected entry: You'd think that in the Battle of Helm's Deep, where the defenders of a fortress are hopelessly outnumbered, one of the best hopes would be to take out as many of the enemy as possible before it came to hand-to-hand fighting ? ie, shoot as many as you could before they reach the walls. Certainly we see the Elves (and the Men) firing often. However, even at the end of the battle, most of the archers have quivers full of arrows. There are a number of shots where this can be seen but the most obvious is just after Haldir has been wounded ? there is a brief shot of the retreating soldiers (Elves and Men) and most, if not all of them, have quivers full of golden-fletched arrows. I know that Tolkien speaks of archers 'gleaning' arrows from among the dead, but so many, and in the middle of a huge battle? Plus the arrows are all clean and neat looking.STP
Corrected entry: After Merry and Pippin escape from the Uruk-Hai, Merry has a deep cut over his right eye. Very often the cut changes. It starts out over his right eye all bloody, then it changes to his left eye and it is still bloody. Then it goes back to his right eye but is clean, then it disappears entirely and comes back later to over his right eye and not bloody.
Corrected entry: When Frodo, Sam and Gollum reach the black gate of Mordor, there is an army of men marching towards the gate. According to most film books they are Easterlings, who are marching from the east to Mordor to help Sauron. However, if you check a map of Middle-Earth you will that they are marching from the west, not the east.
Corrected entry: In the scene where Frodo and Sam are captured by Faramir, it begins with Sam cooking rabbits in a pot. He realises that Frodo is missing, and he and Gollum rush to find him, leaving behind cooking equipment and backpack. All three are then captured. When released by Faramir however, Sam once again has his backpack, and proudly hitches it up when leaving.
Corrected entry: When Aragorn, Legolas and Gimli are chasing the Uruk-hai just before the Rohan riders appear, they run between two rocky outcrops over a ridge. Aragorn signals to hide, and almost at once the riders appear. Strangely Aragorn can hear Uruk-hai on foot 1 day's march away, but not a group of riders 30 seconds ride away. Legolas, famous for his eyesight, obviously forgot to have a look over the ridge where he might have spotted the riders.
Corrected entry: After the attack by the wargs and Aragorn has fallen off the cliff, we see him floating in the river. When he reaches the bank, we see his wound is on the left arm. When he arrives at Helm's Deep and talks to Gimli whilst on his horse, his wound is on his right arm. It changes between shots from the river scene to the scene at Helm's Deep.
Corrected entry: Right after the battle with the Wargs, we return to Eowin as she sees Helm's Deep from a distance, and we can see that she carries nothing, but in the next shot, as she enters the castle, she has a large basket tied on her back.
Corrected entry: In the scene when Frodo and Sam hide from a Mordor soldier by making the cape look like a rock, the surroundings change after the soldier is gone. When they take the cape off there is a large rock nearby that was not there. When the soldier was looking at them, the only large rock visible was the cape itself.
Corrected entry: At the very end of the movie, Gollum says he would bring Sam and Frodo to 'her' (if you don't want parts of the next film to be revealed, you should stop reading). 'She' is a monster that lives in the tunnels. Earlier in the movie Gollum said he knew about another way to Mordor through the same tunnels. However, at the time he was being faithful and helpful, before he turned evil/conflicted again. Was he planning to get them killed all along, even when being nice?
Corrected entry: In the shot of the orcs pouring into helms deep after Theoden orders the final retreat we see the main gate doors at the top the ramp pushed open by a mass of orcs. The previously smashed doors are completely intact.
Corrected entry: When Gimli is talking to Eowyn about dwarf women, and his horse throws him, the axe in his hand goes flying. In the wide shot, the axe is shown going a fair distance from the horse, about 4 or 5 metres. In the shot of Gimli on the ground, the axe lands right next to him, only about 1 metre from where it flew out of his hand.
Corrected entry: When we first see Shadowfax, the horse, come into the film outside of Fangorn Forest, it has only a small amount of black on its muzzle. This remains the case when Gandalf is about to leave with Aragorn, Legolas and Gimli, as they set out for Helm's Deep. Yet, at the end of the film after the Helm's Deep battle, when we see Gandalf, Theoden and the others come over the hill, Shadowfax has a black muzzle which covers about half of it's face. (01:44:10)
Corrected entry: In any shots of Fangorn Forest from a distance it is an evergreen forest. However, when it is seen from close up or inside it is a deciduous forest.
Corrected entry: When Treebeard, Merry and Pippin exit Fangorn Forest and they see Isengard, you see a shot of Isengard taken from where they are standing. But on Faramir's map you can see that Isengard is to the west of the Misty Mountains, not to the east as it was when Treebeard looked upon it. This brings up the idea that Treebeard was going north, and not south.
Corrected entry: When Aragon convinces Theodin to ride out of Helm's Deep with him at the end of the battle to meet Gandalf, Legolas is the only rider with a white horse. Looking at the downward shot of them riding through the Uruk-hai on the bridge out of Helm's Deep, there are two riders on white horses, and both look suspiciously like Legolas.
Corrected entry: When Aragorn, Legolas and Gimli meet Eomer and the Riders of Rohan, Eomer says that they burnt all the bodies of the Orc company. He points towards where they Orcs are piled and from a distance there is a shot of smoke rising from a fire. There is no forest nearby. When the travellers reach the pile of dead Orcs they are only yards from the eaves Fangorn Forest, which is vast and would surely have been visible even from a distance.
Corrected entry: At the end of the film, after the battle of Helm's Deep, Gandalf, Aragorn, Legolas, Gimli and the king ride their horses to the top of the hill to look at the lightning over Mordor. However, earlier in the film when they had been on the hill there was no sign of Mordor in the distance.
Corrected entry: Whilst Aragorn, Gimli and Legolas are on the trail of Merry and Pippin at the beginning of the film there is a panning shot beside a mountain, when they are seen running. If you watch Orlando Bloom he slips on a rock and skids slightly before recovering his balance and running on. Surely Legolas, a member of the most graceful creatures on Middle-Earth, would be able to run over some rocks without slipping?
Corrected entry: When Faramir is talking to his generals regarding battle plans he is informed that a very large army has emptied out of Orthanc. Later in the movie Aragorn arrives at Helm's Deep and tells Theoden the same. How can a small army near Mordor find out about the Orcish army before the Rohirrim, who are next door to Orthanc?
Corrected entry: During one of the first movie shots of the outer wall of Helm's Deep, a voiceover of Grima Wormtongue (who is now back at Orthanc with Saruman) discusses that the barricade's one outside weakness is a 'drainpipe' that leads from inside the fortress to a nearby river. In this shot, the drainpipe cannot be more than a couple of feet high, as seen in comparison by the many rats running about inside of it. During the battle of Helm's Deep, however, when the Uruk-Hai are placing Saruman's explosives inside the pipe, and later when the Berserker Uruk is running in to light them, the pipe towers over the heads of all the enemy-much larger than the 'few feet' clearance seen earlier in the film.
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