Corrected entry: After PreCrime thwarted Anne Lively's murder, and hauled the man away, Burgess steps in and drowns her. The deed was overlooked by the technicians, believing it to be an echo of the original murder. But since the PreCrime cops had actually stopped the murder from occurring, wouldn't at least one of the officers in attendance remember that Lively wasn't dead when they left? And would they have been so incompetent and uncaring as to leave the poor woman just sitting all by herself after such a traumatic event?Blathrop
Corrected entry: When Anderton is about to have his eyes replaced, the "doctor" swipes his credit card. Wouldn't the police use everything possible to find him, including the use of his credit card?
Corrected entry: In the scene where Anderton drops the eyeball that he wants to use to gain entry to Pre-Crime, the eye rolls down the passage, making "clickety-clack" noises. We were watching the movie on DVD with a friend who works in an eye clinic, and we all burst out laughing. Eyes are too soft to either roll or sound like that (only the ones from Halloween novelty stores do that...).
Corrected entry: At the beginning of the movie, we are told the year is 2054. When they show a tour of Pre-Crime for school age children, they say that Pre-Crime, started in 2046, has been running flawlessly for 9 years. Funny, I thought 2046 to 2054 is only 8 years.
Corrected entry: During the "greenhouse" scene Dr. Hineman explains to Anderton how the Pre-Cogs came about from the children of drug abusing mothers using these words, "This was 10 years ago when neuroin first hit the streets...All of these kids were born with severe brain damage. Most died before the age of 12." If this only happened "10 years ago" how does she know they died "before the age of 12" and, more importantly for the film, how is it that Agatha and the twins are older than 10? (From the European DVD version, scene 10, with the English "Hard of Hearing" subtitles on for clarity.)
Corrected entry: John Anderton is a wanted man. The precogs have implicated him in the future murder of Leo Crow and put out an all-points bulletin on him. They are able to track his movements through retinal scanners placed all over the city and two chase sequences show that they will send disruptive squads of nearly a dozen members and risk extensive property damage just to arrest him. That premise is made clear. What isn't made clear, however, is why the facility hosting the precogs, the central hub of this operation, allows John to use his old eyeballs to just waltz right in through the back without so much as even a warning going off? For that matter, why is there only one single, effectively unmonitored (one loopy caretaker with a manual alarm on a far wall does not a security system make) door to what is probably the single most valuable government asset? Why hasn't the system been updated to remove his access to key areas? And most importantly, why does the system have a flush mechanism that dumps the precog out to an unsecured location? The audience is expected to accept that these are very competent policemen that have enough planning and expertise to stop every single murder within the region for several years, but also that they would leave such a glaring security hole in their system.Alex Montenegro
Corrected entry: In the scene where Anderton is talking with Hineman, she says to him that "You will bring down the [Precrime] system yourself if you manage to kill your victim. That would be the most spectacular public display of how Precrime didn't work." Shouldn't she be saying "If you manage to not kill your victim"?
Corrected entry: After Anderton flushes himself alongside Agatha down the tank, Gordon is directing security to seal the area. Witwer interrupts him with the statement "Doesn't matter, he wins" and responds to the more detailed plans to stop them in the reservoir with "Gordon, she's in the room with him when he kills Crow. She's already a part of his future." This seems awfully defeatist for a character that was established as being so gung-ho about landing a job at a division specifically based around preventing undesirable futures from happening. The only plausible reason for this total 180 that flies in the face of the film's premise? The writers needed a quick way to move past an escape sequence in the sewers without leaving the audience wondering what was missed.Alex Montenegro
Corrected entry: How can the precogs confine their dreams/visions to the District of Columbia? When they were about to go "national", we are to believe they will all of the sudden be able to have visions that stop at the Canadian and Mexican border?
Corrected entry: The Precrime cops make a huge effort to track down and arrest Anderton before he commits his murder. However, they make no effort whatsoever to protect Crowe. They could've moved Crowe to a secure location, one Anderton was not aware of, rather than waste time chasing down someone who knows their tactics and could easily outrun them. It made sense why they didn't protect the other victims because the murders took place mere minutes after Precrime analyzed the visions, but the Precogs saw Anderton's murder days in advance. The cops had plenty of time to locate and protect Crowe. If Anderton couldn't find Crowe in the first place, the murder would've been prevented, since all the other murders were prevented when the killer was separated from the victims and could not commit the crime.Brad
Corrected entry: Anderton approaches that old Doctor's house and the camera shows a KEEP OUT sign. However the sign is pointing towards the camera, the same way that Anderton's car is driving as he approaches, which means either the sign is the wrong way round or the Doctor doesn't want anyone ever to leave her property.
Corrected entry: In the Lexus plant, Anderton kicks Whitworth who touches his hand to his mouth, and spits out blood. At the end of this scene, after Anderton drives out of the plant, the close-up of Whitworth shows a trail of dried blood coming out of his nose, not his mouth, which shows no sign of injury.
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Corrected entry: The whole plot with setting Anderton up for murdering Leo Crow doesn't make sense. The strength of the Precrime system is that murders do not get committed at all (as there are none in Washington). Yet when Crow was hired, he was told he will have to be killed. When Anderton refuses to kill him, he kills himself. But the fact that the murder was, in fact, committed and that Precrime was not able to stop it, even though they had plenty of time to, would actually prove that the system is not foolproof. Lamar Burgess would therefore sabotage his own effort to prove how the system is faultless and should be extended.
Corrected entry: In the footage of Anderton murdering Leo Crowe, we get a good look of an old lady with a pipe and a guy with glasses being behind the window. With all their technology, databases and awareness of where everybody is, they never bothered to look those two up? They could have narrowed it down easily. More than that, we learn Leo Crowe was listed in the hotel register. Could they not look him up as well and find out where he could be? It just seems they made too many mistakes for a department which could stop murderers in a few minutes.
Corrected entry: This film is based on a play written by Sophocles call Oedipus Rex. If you read the play you will see that there are many references to this play in the movie, from his eyeballs being taken out to the telling of his fate.
Corrected entry: Anderton is trapped inside the Lexus as it is being built, and his head is positioned on top of the "X"-shaped bracket to which the chair attaches. Some spikes shoot through the bottom of the car, trapping his head where it is, and the chair (with an "X"-shaped bottom to match the bracket) comes straight down at him. Then the camera cuts to a different shot, and we find that Anderton somehow miraculously avoided being killed, even though it couldn't have been possible.
Corrected entry: After the fight scene in the automobile plant where Anderton is built into a car on the assembly line, we see him sit up after the car is done being made. It's obvious that we are looking at the tail-end of the production process, because we see the car he is in being painted as it rolls along. When the car is finished, Anderton sits up in the driver's seat and drives the car out an exit that is apparently right in front of him. If this is the end of a giant assembly line, where do the rest of the cars go? Does someone drive all of them off of the line as well?
Corrected entry: When Burgess is talking to John Anderton in his car on the flip up transparent panel on his desk, the word Nokia is the correct way round to the people in the cinema, therefore it would have been a mirror image to Burgess who was using it.
Corrected entry: In the scene were the pre-crime unit make their first arrest of the film, there is a child on a merry-go-round. he gets off and it stops when Cruise is looking for the door. The merry-go-round is completely still. The shot changes to one from behind and the merry-go-round is moving at a furious pace.
Corrected entry: Now, it's understandable that Agatha has no makeup while she's in the water, since she doesn't need it. But, why oh why, does she has a full face of makeup (well, at least eye shadow and lipstick) when we see a closeup of her, while she is having her mind read by Rufus Riley at Cyber Parlor. Where did she get it from? When did she have time to put it on? After being in hibernation for so long, would she have the strength? The inclination?
Corrected entry: Eye scanners can tell the difference between living eyes and dead ones from the pulses in the blood vessels. If the eyes have been removed and shoved in a bag, the scanners shouldn't have recognized them in the first place.
Corrected entry: When Anderton and co. are scrambling on-board the hovercrafts to go and prevent Howard Marks from killing his wife and her lover, Anderton and the female pilot can be seen strapping themselves in and their data screens automatically lower down in front of their faces. Later on however, when the Pre-cops are searching the sprawl, the pilot has to manually pull down her data screen.
Corrected entry: The precop explains that because each ball's grain is unique, they are "impossible to forge." If all they do is verify that the grain is unique, then all it takes for someone to forge their own ball is to make sure that it has a "unique" grain, i.e., different from the others. What kind of a security measure is that?Matty Blast
Corrected entry: In the scene where the Precrime officers first try to capture John in the alley way, as they are fighting on the jet pack they go through a window into the apartment where they burn the burgers and the women is yelling. Then they go through the ceiling of the apartment to the one upstairs, where the people are eating their dinner. In the next scene you see them enter an apartment through a window again. However they were already inside the building.
Corrected entry: During the whole film, the characters are using a newer version of a Nokia Communicator as their cell phone. Well, when you talk with such a Communicator, the display IS NOT touching your ear, the back of the phone is - the speaker is there. If you talk how they talk with a Communicator, you don't hear a thing.
Corrected entry: Lamar Burgess could perfectly kill Anne Lively with impunity simply by committing the murder far away of Washington Area and the Precrime cops. As director of Precrime he had to know about the reach of the precogs precognition powers and how avoid them. It is a much more simple plan than the creation of a complicated alibi with John Doe killers, incompleted pre-visions, fake kidnappers,etc.
Corrected entry: The movie makes a big deal about "pre-crime" going national. Are we to believe that the same three pre-cogs are now going to cover the entire nation?
Corrected entry: Precrime couldn't figure out Howard Marks' new address. But the Post Office (also a federal organization) must have known it; otherwise how would the Markses get their mail? Recall that a magazine or newspaper was shown in the previsions, and Anderton unsuccessfully tried to zoom in on the address label, proving it was delivered. The United States Postal Service knew their new address, yet Precrime didn't?Matty Blast
Corrected entry: Wouldn't they cancel Anderton's access rights the moment he became wanted for murder? He gets into the Precrime building and the Temple - where the security is expected to be extremely high - without any problem at all.
Corrected entry: John would not be in the situation where he could have killed Crowe if the premonition was never made because he only went there to see why he would have killed him.
Corrected entry: It was a real nail biter when Anderton and the pre-crime squad was pressed for time to figure out where Howard Marks was going to murder is wife and his wife's lover, but wouldn't it be a simple task to look up Howard Marks' address in a world where computers can convert brain waves into images?
Corrected entry: Danny Witwer tells Anderton: "I spent two years in Fuller seminary before becoming a cop. My father was very proud ... he was shot and killed when I was fourteen on the steps of our church in Dublin." 1st of all, Fuller is Lutheran, but Danny carries a Catholic medallion. 2nd, he must have either attended a college-level seminary at fourteen or have contact with his dead father.
Corrected entry: When John and Agatha are at the front desk of the hotel where Leo Crow is staying, Agatha says Anderson instead of Anderton.
Corrected entry: When the young kids are on the field trip the guide is saying that the pre-crime department has been around for 9 years, but on the back of the box and throughout the whole movie the pre-crime deparment has only been around for 6 years.
Corrected entry: If you watch the movie with English subtitles, it says that the eye-doctor and nurse are speaking Russian. This is not true, they are speaking Swedish.
Corrected entry: Before John Anderton goes into the building to meet Leo Crow, he looks at the timer in his watch which is counting DOWN. The timer goes from "12:42" to "12:43". It should be counting down, but it goes up instead.
Corrected entry: When Anderton is walking with Agatha through the shopping mall, there's bright sunlight coming through the windows. It's there right up until the minute they leave, but when they're outside, it's suddenly dark and cloudy. A short time later we see the rain stop, and people putting their umbrellas down, but it's still cloudy. Just because the rain stops, that does not mean the sun is out. However, as soon as they step inside, there's that bright light coming through the windows again.Krista
Corrected entry: The movie takes place in 2054, a mere fifty-two years from now. Yet, the entire infrastructure of D.C. has changed in that time. ALL of the buildings are different, as are ALL of the roads, and ALL of the cars. This seems unlikely in that we can walk around in any US city today and see vestiges of 52 years ago.
Corrected entry: After the first attempted murder of Anne Lively the police would surely have taken her away to make a statement. Not only do they not do this, but she is immediately left alone to be murdered, and somehow the police see nothing odd in her instant vanishing, and they treat it as just another disappearance.
Corrected entry: After Anderton arrests the jealous husband, there's a newsflash. In this newsflash, people are telling about what would have happened to them if Pre-Crime wasn't there. In this scene there is a girl with blond hair that says "He was gonna rape me". But a little further in the movie, Witwer is asking questions to Anderton at the police office. Witwer asks Anderton why the Pre-Cogs can't see rapes. Then how did the girl know she was going to be raped? Pre-Cogs can't see rapes, but the girl knew she was going to be raped. How is that possible?
Corrected entry: 1) The futures that are projected ONLY come from timelines where the visions have not had an effect (because you don't see police in the murder visions crashing through windows). 2) John and Agatha (the Precog girl) appear in the vision together. 3) If John and Agatha appear in the vision, then the future that was projected comes from a timeline affected by the visions. 4) The future that was projected CANNOT come from a timeline affected by the visions. 5) Therefore, John and Agatha appearing in the vision is incorrect.
Corrected entry: When Anderton jumps from one car to another in the maglev scene, the car where he jumps to is first moving up, then you see a shot from inside the car and it can be seen that the car is now moving down.
Corrected entry: John Anderton is sitting with his wife at her house, and suddenly it hits him that he is being set up because he found out about Ann Lively. However, he only found out about Lively within the time frame of the movie (looking through the records in the jail), which was after his son was abducted/murdered. How does his reasoning make any sense? Could Lamar Burgess see into the future?
Corrected entry: Anderton escapes with one precog by draining the fluid from the tank, allowing himself and her to be drawn down the drain. Why on earth would there be a man-sized drain in the precog tank? Wouldn't that be a safety hazard? It was certainly a security risk. The pre-cogs are invaluable, without them precrime doesn't exist so why is there not even a grating over the drain to prevent accidental drainage of the pre-cogs.
Corrected entry: When Anderton is in the car that he has fallen into during the fight, the car is sprayed red while the Pre Crime cops watch the car from behind a screen. The spray guns are all around the car and spraying it with paint, but no paint is seen on the floor or the walls, I can only assume this is a special kind of paint that Dulux will invent eventually.
Corrected entry: It is stated very that the precogs have only a few hours (maybe less) to show a crime of passion since the person committing the crime doesn't know he/she is going to do it. If that logic is followed, and Anderton's crime was predicted over a day in advance, why was Colin Ferrell's character's murder not seen in advance? Agatha is the strongest precog of the three but she was still in the Temple until just a little while before his murder. If Colin Ferrell's murder had been seen, wouldn't that have caused the arrest of Anderton's boss?
Corrected entry: When Howard Banks goes into his house to check if his wife is cheating on him, the pre-cogs show that he goes into his house with the door opening on the right side. But when Anderton runs in to stop the murder he rushses through the door with the door opening on the left side.
Corrected entry: In the scene where they give a tour to school children they saw pre-crime has been running smoothly for 9 years. Anderton's son has been missing for 6 years why then when John was talking to Burgess did he say if the company would have been around 6 months earlier his son's death would have never happened, when the company had been around 3 years earlier?
Corrected entry: The police were able to track down John during most of the movie because his eyes were constantly scanned and his location sent to the cops, yet when he uses one of his eyes on the scanner to open the door tn the basement of the pre-crime department, no alarms go off! They were able to track him down all the way to an old delapidating building but not the police station itself?
Corrected entry: When Anderton is in his car and Precrime finds him the car gets locked down. So he simply kicks out a window and climbs out of the car, but when the camera shows the outside shots of him on the car none of the windows are missing. Some people claim it's just down to the angle, but it's definitely not - watch it closely. He kicks out the window against the direction of travel, and climbs on the roof. The car then starts going vertically (without swivelling round), so in order to stand upright he stands on the window...which he kicked out just before.
Corrected entry: What bothered me in this movie is the 'all or nothing' approach. They stopped using precogs because it wasn't always accurate and they risked arresting an innocent person, and also because of the ethics problem of arresting someone for a crime he didn't yet commit. Even so, couldn't they still use the system as a preventive measure, just stopping the crime without necessarily arresting the suspect? Wouldn't that help prevent dozens of murders per year?
Corrected entry: It is completely illogical that Burgess hires a murderer to kill Ann Lively, knowing that the PreCrime Dept. will arrest him and then shortly after killing her himself. Why not hire a second killer? The effect would have been the same and he wouldn't have risked his own skin.
Corrected entry: John Anderton (Tom Cruise) visits his ex-wife at her country home. Their son, an only child, was kidnapped and presumably murdered six years earlier. As John and his wife talk in the yard, a tricycle is clearly visible on the lawn. Is the audience to believe that she is so grief-stricken that she has been unable to touch the tricycle for six years?
Corrected entry: There is a basic paradox of the vision of the Crow murder. Anyone wonder what brought this vision on? The visions take place when the first "domino" falls in a series of dominos that lead to a murder, days ahead of time for a premeditaded murder or hours or minnutes before for a crime of passion (in the one we see, as soon as the husband gets suspicious the vision occurs). So what triggered this vision? What was the first domino? The paradox is that the vision itself was the first domino. Without the vision there was no reason for Aderton to track down a man named Leo Crow. So the vision somehow triggered itself. And without the vision, Aderton would not have attempted to track Leo Crow and the murder wouldn't have occured.
Corrected entry: It seems illogical that two computers in the same room would not be networked together in the future. Both computers by the Temple can read from the pre-cogs, but the pre-cops use a person to run across the room with a futuristic disc to transfer information between computers! That doesn't even happen today anymore...
Corrected entry: If Anderton's murder of Leo Crow was premeditated and thus a brown ball and he had been thinking about it for six years, wouldn't the ball have dropped earlier?
Corrected entry: At the squat where the eye surgery is performed, the lid is left off the ice chest. Yet 6 hours later there is enough unmelted ice to nearly fill the bathtub.
Corrected entry: When John shows his gun to the hotel clerk he does not pick it up when he goes to catch Agatha and then goes upstairs. How does he manage to shoot Leo without a gun?
Corrected entry: If the Max Von Sydow character had planned on really killing Agatha's Mom after the (also-planned) attempt would be caught by the Pre-Crime Police...wouldn't his actual plan also be seen by the "Pre-Cogs" and shown to the Pre-Crime Police as a "premeditated murder"?
Corrected entry: The movie never explained what happened to Anderton's child. For all Anderton knows, the boy could be still alive. The boy's disappearance was the cause of the divorce, and the ending implies that they were reconciled as a result of resolving the kidnapping, but it was never resolved.
Corrected entry: Precrime is only an active force in Washington DC, and the Precogs therefore only dream up murders which will occur in the district. Why didn't Burgess just lure Anne Lively out of the district to kill her rather than constructing the elaborate plot which eventually led to his downfall?
Corrected entry: When the pre-cogs see a murder the name of the victim and perpetrator are written on either a red ball, for crime of passion, or on a brown ball, which means the murder was planned. John's name is written on a brown ball, but how could he have planned to kill this man if he never knew him?
Corrected entry: I've been thinking about this alot, and I've realized that the whole idea of comitting a murder to look like an "echo" after another one wouldn't work. If you think about it, that system would work to cover up the visual part of the premonition, but how would it stop a ball from being created? Burgess definitely planned to kill Anne Lively, so it should have been a brown ball. If you compare his plan to kill Lively to any other murder, than there's really no difference except that he hired someone else to murder her too. Early on in the film, after Anderton throws the ball across the table and Witwer catches it, he mentions that the precogs don't see what you intend to do, only what you do. So if the guys was hired to pretend to kill Lively, the brown ball would have still said Lamar Burgess, the real killer. If the fall guy thought that he was going to kill her, then there would have been two brown balls, one for Lamar and one for him, or one brown ball for the both of them. No matter how you slice it, there should have been a ball. Some people think that the techs would have dismissed it as an echo before it ever got to the ball stage, but there must be a system to identify echoes beyond a tech saying "yeah, that looks the same". The names are clearly innate to the vision, so both visions, however similar they looked would have different murderers attached to them.
Corrected entry: In the film a woman says that she was about to be raped, but was saved, thanks to pre-crime. But later they say that pre-crime can't detect rapes.
Corrected entry: The pre-cogs can only see murders because they are the most disruptive events, we are told. However, when Anderton and the pre-cog are walking through the mall, she sees trivial things well enough to tell him to take an umbrella, when a guy walking by will drop a briefcase, etc. How do these rate as disruptive enough to be seen?
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