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PostPosted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 2:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You mean there are two of him? That would be an interesting twist. Mark's not only the person investigating the blackout, he's also the guy who was awake during it!


I had the thought it might be Cho as he had no dream...but that seemed much too obvious and cheap, and the figure in the video seemed too tall.

Meh...luckily I bailed out halfway through the second episode. Far too much drivel dialog. Fiennes also seems to be channeling David Caruso during his brief stint on NYPD Blue with his breathy Mr. Empathy "C'mere" stuff. Guess I'll read about the disappointing "big reveal" a few years from now. Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 3:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A couple of bad corrections for The Big Bang Theory.

Mistake: Sheldon puts the sword up for sale on eBay. He then says, after only four seconds, that someone had "bought it now". Ebay items take up to an hour to appear in the listings/search results. So Wolowitz wouldn't have been able to buy it straight away.

Correction: [That's not true. Sheldon and Wolowitz would likely know each others nickname. Howard wouldn't have to search for it because he could just check out Sheldon's account and buy it.]

Problem: It doesn't matter if you know the username or not, they don't appear for an hour.

Mistake: Raj plays the message on his phone. Howard then takes the phone and instantly dials her number, despite the fact he did not look for it and does not know her.

Correction: [That's perfectly possible since most phones have an option in the menu to call the number which has texted.]

Problem: He actually dials the number of the number pad. He doesn't search. It's clearly seen.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Re: Ebay.

First, you can INSTANTLY see an item if you are viewing that seller's list of items. This is not a search, so doesn't require that index to be updated.

Second, I listed a Nikon camera a week or so ago on eBay. In under two minutes, it sold with Buy It Now.

While eBay's search system doesn't update fast enough to show items for an hour or so, I believe the listings are INSTANTLY sent via SMS to cellphone owners that subscribe to the feature and setup specific search criteria. I don't know how this is setup, but something of this kind certainly occured for my camera.

So if Wolowitz has setup SMS notification to inform him whenever Sheldon lists something (that seems likely since they all collect nerdy nicknacks and have similar interests), it is absolutely plausible that he bought the sword within moments of it being listed.

Now, four seconds? I don't think so.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So technically, the mistake is valid. I did time it aswell.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 6:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, if it actually took four seconds, the only way conceivable for that to occur would be if eBay offered an option for a buyer to specify a specific item, in specific condition or better, at or below a set price....and as soon as such became available, the eBay system would automatically commit the purchase for that buyer...and the myriad of variables involved in item listings makes such a process prone to buyer disatisfaction...what with unscrupulous sellers, and 'eye of the beholder' variace in descriptions, etc.

eBay offers no such service, so all the following must occur in that 4 seconds:

Seller must submit the item listing.
eBay must compare the seller's criterior to the thousands of potential buyers' criteria, match the listing to one specific buyer's notification criteria and then send the notification.
Buyer must read the notification, decide they want this specific example of the item, then choose 'Buy It Now' and confirm.

The lag time on cellphone transmissions alone negates this possibility completely.

The valid mistake should read something like "No existing process would make it possible for the sword's eBay listing to be launched, potential buyers to be motified, a buyer to read the notification, and then confirm the purchase- all within 4 seconds as shown in this episode. Cell phone message lag times alone would make this scenario impossible."
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 6:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay i'll resubmit in a bit. Not got time yet.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 9:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For Revenge of the Sith...
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During the opening space battle, Obi-Wan's ship falls under attack by buzz-droids, who proceed to cut into his fighter, disabling a number of systems and leading Anakin to try some decidedly dangerous moves to get rid of them. Both Anakin and Obi-Wan are acknowledged experts in the use of the Force and both have been shown to use the Force routinely, even for relatively mundane activities. It's also been firmly established that the Force works on droids and that the Force-user can still affect others through windows, viewscreens and so forth. Yet neither thinks to use the Force to simply sweep the buzz-droids off Obi-Wan's fighter.

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The ability to push something using the force is always done with the object in the Jedi's direct line of sight with nothing intervening. It is possible that pushing something also pushes on everything between the Jedi and the object, which in this case would push out the window on the fighter's cockpit. It also takes a free hand to "push" something; neither Anakin nor Obi-Wan were able to release either hand from their controls.

Oh, please...

Vader throttles Admiral Ozzel via a viewscreen while sitting stationary and talking to somebody else. No direct line of sight, no gestures, just getting on with it. He crushes every item around him in the medical bay while screaming "no" in an unconvincing fashion and staring at the ceiling. He hurls numerous items at Luke in Cloud City while standing there almost casually. Again, no specific gestures there either. On Dagobah, Luke lifts some boxes (and Artoo) while standing on his hands, making specific gestures rather impossible in that case.

But the "Force Push" alone among Force powers requires both a direct and unimpeded line of sight and a very specific gesture? No way does that one fly as a plausible suggestion...

Oh, and both Obi-wan and Anakin take their hands off the primary flight controls during the opening sequence to flip various switches and so forth, so, if, contrary to everything else that we know about the Force, a specific gesture is required for that one particular type of usage, they were perfectly capable of doing it.

Or, if, say, also contrary to everything we know about the Force, their ability to push the droids off is stopped by something as absurdly mundane as a window and it requires direct line of sight and a specific gesture, why didn't they just crush them? Do the same thing to the droids that Vader did to Ozzel's throat? That works through a viewscreen. Or lift them off like Luke did with the boxes? That didn't require a gesture. The original mistake never specified usage of the Force Push ability, just that they could have used the Force to sweep away the droids.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 2:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tailkinker wrote:
Oh, please...

Vader ... crushes every item around him in the medical bay while screaming "no" in an unconvincing fashion


Laughing Laughing Laughing Worst tribal scream ever.

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why didn't they just crush them? Do the same thing to the droids that Vader did to Ozzel's throat?


That could've been pretty funny. Have Obi Wan glance at a screen, spotting the droids, he lifts his left hand and non-chalantly taps his thumb agisnt his finger tips as if grabbing a fly out of the air. Cut to an outside shot of the attacking droids squished into pancakes, then falling back and away, sparks flying from the tumbling discs of ex-droids. Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 11:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Same guy again, same bad correction, approved yet again.

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The episode opens showing the aftermath of the worldwide blackout. Then it jumps backward 4 hours. We soon see a despondent man walking onto a pier. He stops, puts his phone and wallet on a railing, then takes out a gun, preparing to shoot himself. The pier is quite busy, with many people nearby. The scene changes to show Mark Benford attending an Alcoholics Anonymous meeting, then walking with his sponsor afterwards, then we see him on a stakeout which then leads into a car chase. Then the scene changes back to the pier where the man is now raising his gun to his chin. We are expected to believe this armed man stood on this busy pier with a gun in his hand, unnoticed and unchallenged all this time? The events are not simultaneous. All the other scenes are shown to be sequential. [Being a fictional story, there is no way to tell how much time has passed between the happenings of the different characters because it is never explicitly stated. The scenes could very well have happened concurrently. Even so, he was on a branch of the pier off to the side where there were no other people, and it would be extremely easy to pass right by him and not notice him. He was attempting to commit suicide, so he would not bring any unnecessary attention to himself (aside from doing it in public).]


Complete baloney, using the same bad points as the first time, and now he adds that the pier was deserted... and it most definitely was not. It was positively bustling with people.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 5:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And the great Flashforward war goes on...
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The episode opens showing the aftermath of the worldwide blackout. Then it jumps backward 4 hours. We soon see a despondent man walking onto a pier. He stops, puts his phone and wallet on a railing, then takes out a gun, preparing to shoot himself. The pier is quite busy, with many people nearby. The scene changes to show Mark Benford attending an Alcoholics Anonymous meeting, then walking with his sponsor afterwards, then we see him on a stakeout which then leads into a car chase. Then the scene changes back to the pier where the man is now raising his gun to his chin. We are expected to believe this armed man stood on this busy pier with a gun in his hand, unnoticed and unchallenged all this time? The events are not simultaneous. All the other scenes are shown to be sequential. It can not simply be assumed otherwise. The pier was crowded with other people, not at all deserted. Conjecture is not a correction.

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Conjecture is not a correction, neither is it a mistake. In the end, all we can use to justify a mistake is what we actually see. Since we weren't witnesses to the entire time he was on the pier, we don't know that he was either unnoticed or even unchallenged. Even if he wasn't noticed or challenged, the unlikelihood of that happening doesn't make it impossible. The very premise of the series strains credibility even more than this, but that's not considered a mistake either.

Right, he was both noticed and challenged and the relevant authorities decided to just leave him standing there with a gun...
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rolling Eyes

I don't suppose we could convince the elusive Sir Jon to lock that one next time you put it through?

Sigh.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 11:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This time it was the infamous fantasy loving JCFernandez. Evil or Very Mad

I resubbed yet again, and sent a notice to Jon. Anyone wanna bet me it gets "text corrected" by someone after being locked? Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 3:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just put it through again. Let's see how long it takes this time... unless Jon locked it. You can ask him to lock the "change text" feature, too, btw. He's done it with some others that kept getting mis-corrected.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 3:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks. We shall see. Confused
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 11:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's another that keeps getting corrected....the vanishing chest insignia of the Kelvin's Captain. I've created clear pics of this and resubbed the mistake. As soon as the mistake is approved, I'll sub the pics.

JCFernandez: Note it ain't so dark as you hypothesized, eh? Please: shut up. Evil or Very Mad



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